Shoʿayb

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Shoʿayb

Shoʿayb

@ZombieScroller

Spiritually tired.

Katılım Temmuz 2022
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Shoʿayb@ZombieScroller·
@ZouhairsMurid @paralax777 @Simsimiyyah "He admits to some of Allah moving while the rest isn't, and this requires partiality" - Literally no lol Again you don't even understand afortiori reasoning
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UCLLegendarium@ULegendari95645·
@ZombieScroller @Simsimiyyah @SapienceOrg The literal definition of nuzul/descends is intiqal from higher to a lower point. Per the hadith and a literal understanding it means goes from a higher point to the lower heaven WHICH IS IN CREATION. U are forced into ta'wil to avoid hululi kufr!
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UCLLegendarium@ULegendari95645·
@ZombieScroller @Simsimiyyah @SapienceOrg Lmao it means your destination IS LONDON fool. It means your end is LONDON. I didnt say God is already in creation, then he goes to another part creation per your understanding, but rather following ur literalism it would mean that God enters creation in the lowest heaven
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Shoʿayb@ZombieScroller·
@Rurouni_Phoenix @InspiringPhilos Inspiring Philosophy and God logic are Zionist genocidal apologist piece of human trash. They are enemies of Muslims both spiritually and in flesh. So why do we expect "condolences" from then?
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Rurouni_Phoenix@Rurouni_Phoenix·
In the last couple days I've seen something that really bothers me. A lot of the Christian apologists who love to mock Islam (@InspiringPhilos for example) did not feel compelled to share their condolences with the victims of the San Diego mosque shooting despite their
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Shoʿayb@ZombieScroller·
@ULegendari95645 @Simsimiyyah @SapienceOrg First of all I didn't make "Tawil". You don't even know what the term "Tawil" is in the context of Allah's Siffat. Also Hadeeth says “Allah descends to the lowest heaven…”. Not “Allah enters into the lowest heaven…” Word used is “descends (ينزل)” And not “enters (يدخل)”
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Shoʿayb@ZombieScroller·
@ZouhairsMurid @paralax777 @Simsimiyyah What’s even the objection? The fact that you are attacking a creaturely analogy while assuming there is a one-to-one mapping with Allah simply demonstrates that you don’t really understand how a fortiori reasoning works. @ZouhairsMurid
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Shoʿayb@ZombieScroller·
@ZouhairsMurid @paralax777 @Simsimiyyah Even if we entertain your “objection” that this human descent is “partiality,” so what?! It’s human nuzūl. Did anyone argue that this is the case for Allah, when a like-for-like comparison was not even intended?!
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UCLLegendarium@ULegendari95645·
@ZombieScroller @Simsimiyyah @SapienceOrg He did ta'wil. He says God does nuzul without entering into creation nor stop being above Throne, when the hadith says it will occur in the lowest heaven. I dont have issues with this - but this isnt consistent with salafi methodology
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