The Burke of Calvin's Isms

@SeanNea71990714 @MrCasey62 @CatholicRambo Quote the verse where he preaches about reasoning "per se" and is valid. We already know he argued against reasoning alone.

@_tfTGS @MrCasey62 @CatholicRambo Yes he warns of corrupt reasoning but not reasoning per se which is valid.

No Scripture verse says this. Many Scripture verses condemn this. And anyone who bothers to think it through knows it doesn’t even remotely make sense.

@SeanNea71990714 @MrCasey62 @CatholicRambo You're going into circles. You lied that Paul taught reason alone, when he actually warned against reasoning alone.

@_tfTGS @MrCasey62 @CatholicRambo Yes they were corrupt in their reasoning. Reasoning itself is certainly valid but they didn’t use it correctly because they were wicked. I never said reason alone will give you the gospel for Divine revelation is needed.

@SeanNea71990714 @MrCasey62 @CatholicRambo Sigh. I was mocking your take on reason alone. Apostle Paul literally preaches and warns of corrupt reasoning. Which you believe he defends reason alone.

@_tfTGS @MrCasey62 @CatholicRambo “by the Holy Spirit ALONE”—so not by scripture or apostle as you falsely claimed.

@SeanNea71990714 @MrCasey62 @CatholicRambo It would be useful for your understanding that "vain in their imaginations" means that they are corrupt in their reasoning. The Apostle Paul absolutely contradicts your personal gospel that reason alone is what people will use.

@_tfTGS @MrCasey62 @CatholicRambo True he did not use the word “reason” but that is what he expected the heathens to have used. He expected them to “reason” out certain things “from the things that are made“ but not the gospel as that would require additional Divinely revealed knowledge.

@SeanNea71990714 @MrCasey62 @CatholicRambo *by holy spirit alone. Fixed it. The Apostle Paul Nevers says reason alone.

@_tfTGS @MrCasey62 @CatholicRambo Yes for Christianity. But not for the fact that there is one God and His power and Divinity which can be discovered by reason alone.

@stanleyVXK @TheDankBoi69 @d_stevensonBYU I'm southern. Go UGA.

@_tfTGS @TheDankBoi69 @d_stevensonBYU jealous of the BYU bastard House of cultists? 🤣🤣 good one ☝🏻

If you were truly a Christian you’d be Mormon

@stanleyVXK @Midjorityrules @d_stevensonBYU You want me to try and be a Pharisee? I'll pass. I'm not like you.

@_tfTGS @Midjorityrules @d_stevensonBYU let's see you try, go ahead backup Joseph Smith with anything Jesus said... EVER! I'm waiting ..

At least you got interlocutor right. The rest of it is making you look very bad faith I'm having a very clear argument for the need for prophets and apostles of Jesus Christ. You on the other hand want to belittle me so you can turn this into a bad faith attack. You repenting of that might be something you should look into since it's bearing false witness.

@SeanNea71990714 @_tfTGS @MrCasey62 @CatholicRambo You are arguing with the most bad faith interlocutor on the planet.....

@SeanNea71990714 @MrCasey62 @CatholicRambo As a reminder the Apostle Paul never uses the word "reason" That's preaching another gospel

@_tfTGS @MrCasey62 @CatholicRambo Not a Christian right out of the womb. You would certainly need additional revelation to be a Christian. But St Paul still says that there ARE some things they could have known by reason alone and so were without excuse.

No. You are false or everyone would be Christian at birth knowing the 3 theological principles right out of the womb. Reason is flawed without the spirit guiding use to the knowledge. Prophets and apostles as you have repeatedly shown are needed to teach the principles you claim that they don't.

@_tfTGS @MrCasey62 @CatholicRambo False. For they certainly could have known that at least there is a True God from reason alone without any scripture as St Paul says. Wickedness, not their reason, made them stray.

The other teachings of prophets and apostles of Jesus Christ would be the only source of teachings directly from Jesus Christ. All others are just meh, irrelevant and useless to one's salvation and exaltation. Otherwise we no longer have God speaking to us, and all revelation is dead.

@_tfTGS @SeanNea71990714 @MrCasey62 @CatholicRambo Yes it's good. It's good that other teachings informed things too. The councils had to work out what wasn't from the apostles & prophets & what was. Even if some church fathers disagreed beforehand they all came out knowing that 73 books were backed by the Holy Spirit afterwards.

@SeanNea71990714 @MrCasey62 @CatholicRambo The pagan, hellenistic, roman, hindu Gods, prove they did not God and had to learn it. Theology is a study of God. And without scripture they would learn another God.

@_tfTGS @MrCasey62 @CatholicRambo Did the heathens know these 3 things without scripture? Yes or no?

@SeanNea71990714 @MrCasey62 @CatholicRambo There is a reason religions are invented all the time. Because they don't know the theology. And didn't get to learn it at birth like you did.

@_tfTGS @MrCasey62 @CatholicRambo Yes they did. They knew 3 theological things and knew them without any scripture.

@SeanNea71990714 @MrCasey62 @CatholicRambo Heathens don't know theology. Try again.

@_tfTGS @MrCasey62 @CatholicRambo It is true that I myself know these 3 things by scripture and did not have to reason it out. Yet the heathens also knew them without scripture as St Paul says. Dual ways of knowing the same things—1 scripture 2 reasoning. Do you deny they knew these 3 things without scripture?

@TheNewCatholic @SeanNea71990714 @MrCasey62 @CatholicRambo Good thing prophets and apostles of Jesus Christ took the time to write all that scripture. Or would be struggling to even have a plan.

@_tfTGS @SeanNea71990714 @MrCasey62 @CatholicRambo This included deciding on the new testament as well as the old.

@kariwarburton I was just rewatching episode 1 and we saw the assault charges on that episode. The lawyers knew. And probably thought nobody would care.

Good.

@moak_ryan @Salt_n_Smoke I can only hope that I'm worthy of Jesus Christ sociopathic narcissism where he has his own earth, so that I can become like God the Father too.

@Salt_n_Smoke There is gullible people who fall for the lies of JS. But there are plenty of sociopathic narcissists who want to be gods of their own planet .

Sending men on missions and then marrying their wives is the biggest chump move. Joseph Smith took advantage of nice gullible people. It’s that same DNA that continues today. That’s the LDS fruits, nice people. It’s in your DNA. Nothing to do with Mormonism.

@SeanNea71990714 @MrCasey62 @CatholicRambo So you use Paul scripture to tell everyone that you don't need Paul's scripture. Please. For the love of all that is Jesus Christ and his atonement, recognize what you are actually saying. You literally did not know this key principle until an Apostle of Jesus Christ told you.

@_tfTGS @MrCasey62 @CatholicRambo ”wouldn’t have known this without an apostle…” False. St Paul says it can be known without an apostle.

@SeanNea71990714 @MrCasey62 @CatholicRambo See. You knew this only because Apostle Paul wrote the principle of this in scripture. Thanks for proving that you wouldn't have known about this with an apostle of Jesus Christ communicating this to the early disciples of Jesus Christ.

@_tfTGS @MrCasey62 @CatholicRambo False. For without any apostle or any scripture I can know these things as St Paul explicitly states.