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@Truth_matters20 Baptism for the dead

Accurate 🎯

@mormons_speak @Ch_JesusChrist Most of the time it’s the bishop doing the abuse.

Starting in 1995, the #LDS changed its policy that asked bishops to report all abuse to authorities--to requiring bishops to call a hotline where attorneys often tell bishops not to report abuse unless compelled by law. Today the @Ch_JesusChrist uses priest/penitent privilege.

@ClownWorld At least people are picking up the dog 💩. Who cares , it’s a trash can.

Woman walking her dog stops in front of a stranger’s house, throws a bag of dog poop into their trash can, and casually walks away like nothing happened. Some people really treat other people’s property like their personal garbage dump. Would you say something if you saw this or just let it slide?

@BruceNorth46058 @surskitmaxxing @AlderNate I don’t believe in the covenants Smith spoke about as they are not supported biblically. He was an occultist, and Christians rebuke the fallen pagan gods .

@AlderNate @tnsampson2 Your reading meaning into the text, the same thing you’re warning me not to do. I’ll continue to trust the Holy Spirit and not a farm boy occultist

Ryan, I agree that we should listen to the Holy Spirit. But notice what the Holy Spirit in scripture consistently does: He testifies of Christ, reveals truth, calls prophets, gives revelation, and guides the Church. The problem is that you are using “the Holy Spirit told me” to dismiss actual biblical patterns instead of reconcile them. The same New Testament that mentions the Holy Spirit also teaches: apostles and prophets (Ephesians 4:11) revelation (Amos 3:7, John 16:13) laying on of hands (Acts 8:14–17) spiritual gifts (1 Corinthians 12) baptism for the dead (1 Corinthians 15:29) sealing authority (Matthew 16:19) So the question becomes: Why would the Holy Spirit inspire those things in the early Church, but supposedly oppose them now? And respectfully, personal feelings alone cannot be the final authority, because millions of sincere believers across thousands of denominations all claim the Holy Spirit confirms contradictory doctrines. That is exactly why God established prophets, apostles, revelation, and priesthood authority in the first place.

WHAT WOULD THE TRUE CHURCH OF JESUS CHRIST LOOK LIKE TODAY? The 17 Points of the True Church Not according to tradition. Not according to creeds written centuries later. Not according to popular opinion. According to the Bible. Years ago, a group of college students from different Christian denominations asked themselves a simple question: “What would the true Church of Jesus Christ look like if it still existed on the earth today?” Independently, they studied the scriptures and compared notes. What they discovered became known as “The 17 Points of the True Church.” What shocked them most was that one church matched every single biblical pattern. Here are some of the things the true Church of Jesus Christ would have: • The name of Jesus Christ (Ephesians 5:23) • Apostles and prophets (Ephesians 2:19-20) • Continuing revelation from God (Amos 3:7, John 16:13) • Divine authority from God, not self-appointment (Hebrews 5:4) • Baptism by immersion (Matthew 3:13-16) • The laying on of hands for the Gift of the Holy Ghost (Acts 8:14-17) • Miracles, healing, visions, and spiritual gifts (Mark 16:17-18, 1 Corinthians 12) • Missionary work to all nations (Matthew 28:19-20) • Baptism for the dead (1 Corinthians 15:29) • Temples and sacred ordinances (Malachi 3:1, Revelation 11:1) • Sealing authority that binds on earth and in heaven (Matthew 16:19) • Eternal families and marriage covenants (Mark 10:6-9) • A restoration after a falling away (Acts 3:19-21, 2 Thessalonians 2:3) • Christ visiting “other sheep” after His resurrection (John 10:16) • God the Father and Jesus Christ as distinct beings (Acts 7:55-56, Matthew 3:16-17) • The resurrected Christ with a glorified physical body (Luke 24:36-39) • A living prophet receiving revelation for the Church (Ephesians 4:11-14) Now ask yourself honestly: How many modern churches actually teach and practice ALL of those biblical patterns? Most Christians reject these things not because the Bible rejects them, but because later traditions replaced them. Ironically, many people who say: “God no longer speaks.” “There are no more apostles.” “There can be no more scripture.” “There are no prophets today.” …would likely have rejected Moses, Isaiah, John the Baptist, Peter, and even Jesus Christ Himself for claiming new revelation beyond the established religious system of their day. Interesting questions: Where does the Bible say: • God can no longer speak? • There can be no more scripture? • Apostles and prophets would permanently disappear? • Miracles and revelation would cease before Christ returns? • The Trinity creed was dictated by Jesus? • Peter became a pope over the entire Church? • Christians should pray to Mary? • The Bible alone would replace living revelation? • God stopped calling prophets? Many people defend those ideas passionately even though they are largely products of post-biblical tradition rather than explicit scripture. The irony is that the Restoration is often criticized for believing too much of the Bible literally. The question is not whether God HAS spoken. The question is whether you believe He STILL speaks.

@AlderNate @tnsampson2 I disagree with your interpretation of the Bible. The Holy Spirit is who I choose to listen to.

Ryan, that argument actually proves the restoration more than you realize. You say these points are “only believed by Mormons,” but many of them are directly stated in the Bible itself: apostles and prophets laying on of hands baptism by immersion spiritual gifts revelation divine healing missionary work baptism for the dead Christ visiting “other sheep” the Father and Son being distinct beings Those are biblical concepts long before the Book of Mormon ever existed. The real issue is that many modern Christian traditions moved away from those teachings over time. Also, regarding Mark and marriage after the resurrection: Jesus did not say eternal marriage is impossible. He said people “neither marry, nor are given in marriage” after the resurrection (Mark 12:25). That is present tense and refers to new marriages being performed after resurrection, not existing covenants being destroyed. In fact, Jesus gave Peter sealing authority with language specifically connected to heaven: “Whatsoever thou shalt bind on earth shall be bound in heaven” (Matthew 16:19). Why would heavenly binding authority exist if nothing continues beyond death? And honestly, saying “Christians denounce the Book of Mormon as scripture” is just circular reasoning. That is the very question being debated. The Pharisees also denounced additional scripture and living revelation in their day. They believed God HAD spoken, but rejected the idea that He was STILL speaking. That pattern repeats constantly throughout scripture.

@unlimited_ls You should have a license for e-bikes. Kids crash them all the time.

🚨NEW: Florida mother whose son died in an e-motorcycle crash is now pushing lawmakers to fully ban e-bikes and e-scooters for children under 14 Colton Remsburg, 13, was riding his e-bike when he was struck and killed by a pickup truck. He was not wearing a helmet and was not in a marked crosswalk Colton’s mother, Ashley LaChance, is now urging lawmakers to ban these e-bikes/e-motorcycles for kids under 14 Since December 1, there have been 41 crashes involving e-bikes and scooters in Orange County that resulted in injuries The Orange County Sheriff’s Office is finalizing a new e-bike ordinance that would allow deputies to issue citations and even impound them for repeated violations

@FightofFaith Lord bless those men who will hear the truth of the gospel from brother Calvin tonight. That they will be filled with the Holy Spirit and understand the gift of grace that their lives may be changed and become born again in the truth of your love . Amen

Will you pray? Tonight is men’s Freedom Night. Addictions, struggles of all kinds must bow to the truth of God’s Word. We gather, talk, pray as brothers in Christ. Join us. Pray for us. To God be all the glory. Amen.

@AlderNate Nope , more out of context mormonism.

@surskitmaxxing @AlderNate In the gospel of Mark Jesus clearly state people won’t marry after the resurrection.

@AlderNate This story is completely fake. “Faith-promoting” fiction. “Eternal families” gives it away, obviously. Any Mormon who falls for this should feel embarrassed

@AlderNate @tnsampson2 It definitely hinges on him being Mormon . These 17 points are only believed by Mormons not Christians. They are influenced by the BOM lens, that Christians denounce as scripture.

Interesting response, because nothing in my post depends on Floyd Weston being LDS beforehand. The actual argument is about the biblical criteria themselves. Are apostles biblical? Is continuing revelation biblical? Is baptism by immersion biblical? Is baptism for the dead biblical? Are prophets biblical? Are temples biblical? Are spiritual gifts biblical? Is divine authority biblical? If the answer is yes, then the real question becomes: Which church today actually teaches and practices those things? Also, thank you for accidentally proving one of the biggest points of the post. You quoted AI saying: “They found that no church matched more than half of the requirements outlined in their list.” Exactly. That is literally the Restoration argument. If the original Church established by Christ included apostles, prophets, revelation, priesthood authority, miracles, spiritual gifts, missionary work, temples, ordinances, etc… and no modern church retained those biblical patterns in full, then something was lost. That is the entire reason a restoration would be necessary in the first place. And ironically, even your own AI quote acknowledges that reality.

@DanShaha @theelderpepe lol, no that’s not me Dan

@moak_ryan @theelderpepe I bet you’re the kind of guy who goes around telling 6 year old kids that Santa clause and the Easter bunny aren’t real.

@JS_StrngstSldr We should follow Jesus , not men

@moak_ryan The splinter groups do not even follow all of Joseph Smith's teachings, don't have 12 Apostles, don't even build temples, etc. Some of them even split off during Wilford Woodruff' presidency and rejected continuing revelation.

Truth.

@JS_StrngstSldr I have friends and family who are LDS, I pray you come to the truth as well.

@moak_ryan I don't think your interpretation is correct.

@JS_StrngstSldr Do LDS agree with FLDS , or any of the splinter groups of Mormonism? You know that disagreement doesn’t prove anything.

Yet none of the 40,000 denominations can agree on things like: The mode of baptism The necessity of baptism Infant baptism The role of priesthood The biblical canon The need for repentance What faith is The nature of God The fulfilling of the Law of Moses The need for Apostles The fall of Adam Original sin The Problem of Evil The Plan of Salvation Agency The Atonement of Jesus Christ Interplay between faith, grace, and personal effort The time between death and the resurrection I could go on.

@JS_StrngstSldr Those consequences may not come in this life Jay.

@moak_ryan I've felt zero of those consequences, because it isn't a different gospel. When the 12 Apostles were no longer on the earth the ability to correct false doctrine was lost. No more new scripture was written. Proof positive of apostasy.

@JS_StrngstSldr The gospel never needed restoration . Teaching a different gospel carries consequences.

@moak_ryan Exact word fallacy. The doctrines of the Restored Gospel of Jesus Christ are all rooted in the Bible.

@JS_StrngstSldr Interesting take, since it never mentions Mormon.

@moak_ryan Nah. The Bible is the most Mormon text.

@umikumao @DavidLeeGenesis @PeacemakingSt It’s a funeral text. No debate. And you wonder why people call it a cult

@DavidLeeGenesis @PeacemakingSt The same, by the gift and power of God.

The Book of Mormon was translated by the gift and power of God.