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Jeremy
Jeremy@ManaByte·
Buzz Aldrin taking communion on the Moon wasn’t revealed until 1970. NASA kept it quiet during Apollo 11 because they were still dealing with a lawsuit over the Apollo 8 Bible reading. They didn’t want another religion vs government fight overshadowing the mission. Aldrin finally told the story a year later in Guideposts magazine.
Dee 🌹@DeeWaynee94

Apollo 8 reading Genesis and Aldrin taking communion happened, sure, but those are examples of Christian astronauts, not “distinctly Christian” space travel. The first human in space was Yuri Gagarin, and the first woman in space was Valentina Tereshkova. Personal faith in orbit doesn’t baptise rocketry.

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Zero Flight@_wereback·
@Forms_Respecter That he thinks "birds of a feather flock together" as a problem to be solved instead of a natural phenomenon to be accounted for is textbook progressivism. I think he thinks he is excepted from this charge because the context is "the church" and not "the state."
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The "conservative" critique of CRT and the far left is that they've strayed too far from the utopian leftism conservatives hold. Basically, the far left realized how disconnected from reality liberalism is, so they developed praxis that takes into account reality, in spite of the fact that their theory is still antireality. The left recognized that people organize by group identity—especially ethnic/racial—and utilizes that fact politically. Conservatives, holding to liberalism, reject that on purely ideological grounds because it contradicts their pressuposition of tabula rasa indivualist egalitarianism. So you are coming at this as someone on the left. You just do it from a leftist position that's even more disconnected from reality.
Hunter Baker@hunterbaker

Let me add that I don't come to this as someone on the left. I deplore critical theory and the project of labeling everything as "white supremacy." I hate that stuff. It is divisive and acidic. But I detect something growing that wants to emphasize a kind of "birds of the feather flock together" racial thing that I believe is unhealthy and antithetical to the Christian church as we should understand it.

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Mark W.
Mark W.@DurhamWASP·
“Equality is a slogan based on envy. It signifies in the heart of every republican: 'Nobody is going to occupy a place higher than I.'" Alexis de Tocqueville
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bendell werry 🌲@bendellwerry·
Plutarch (46-125 AD), a priest of Apollo, wrote about the oracles falling silent across the Greek world. He also recounts that, during the reign of Tiberius (14-37 AD), a sailor heard a voice on the seas proclaiming: “the great god Pan is dead.” What could it all mean?
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The General
The General@1776General_·
AI isn't taking your job. Foreigners are.
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Zero Flight@_wereback·
@Wave_E_Gravy @hunterbaker You are inserting yourself into an intra-conservative debate on the nature of immigration and the Great Replacement. You aren't conservative, so your line of argument supports my view that Baker has imbided liberal assumptions. He would balk at what you've made explicit.
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Wave-E-Gravy
Wave-E-Gravy@Wave_E_Gravy·
@_wereback @hunterbaker If I am wrong by all means show me how. Are you disputing the fact that racial theory was commonly accepted in the time of the founders? Or are you just using politics as an excuse to escape from a losing argument?
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Hunter Baker
Hunter Baker@hunterbaker·
This post got a lot of views, but what depresses me is the stupid, monkey-reasoning by which a crowd desperately tries to "ratio" me. I can imagine them shrieking and whooping. Read your Plato and Tocqueville. The ratio has little to do with wisdom.
Hunter Baker@hunterbaker

I don't understand why any Christian cares about preserving a majority for a particular race. That's not a category for us. If it is, then something else is under the hood of the vehicle, but not Christianity.

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Wave-E-Gravy
Wave-E-Gravy@Wave_E_Gravy·
@_wereback @hunterbaker I never said "gutter racists." Don't get histrionic. They believed in race as a scientific, biological reality. That is definitionally racism. It's not an insult, I am just stating the basic fact that they were racist.
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Zero Flight@_wereback·
@anthonyjkreider @Wave_E_Gravy @hunterbaker It does, actually. Hamilton was not a gutter racist for wanting to preserve the character of the nation and he worried that an influx of non-Anglo foreigners would do just that. Or in Baker's framing, Hamilton, did worry about his people becoming a minority.
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Zero Flight@_wereback·
@Wave_E_Gravy @hunterbaker So, you just moved the goal post. But thank you for confirming my suspicion that this side of debate is just re-packaged leftism. No, the drafters of our Founding Documents were not gutter racists, actually.
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Wave-E-Gravy
Wave-E-Gravy@Wave_E_Gravy·
@_wereback @hunterbaker I don't really find these quotes impressive considering the time period. Racism was an extremely common misconception in the days of the founders, we have learned a lot since then. I also don't believe disease is caused by a lack of balance in the humors, even if they did.
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Zero Flight@_wereback·
@Wave_E_Gravy @hunterbaker "The number of purely white people in the world is proportionably very small...I with their numbers were increased...But perhaps I am partial to the complexion of my Country, for such kind of partiality is natural to mankind. " Ben Franklin
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@Wave_E_Gravy @hunterbaker "Providence has been pleased to give this one connected country to one united people, a people descended from the same ancestors, speaking the same language, professing the same religion, attached to the same principles of government... John Jay Federalist #2
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