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@crazyskillet @Tyler_King40 @BookMormonBrah @oliverburdick I'd say its incredibly fair, and it also includes archeological experts opinions. either Smith was a true prophet, or he was not. either the Book of Mormon is archaeologically and historically accurate, or its not.

@andybcvi @Tyler_King40 @BookMormonBrah @oliverburdick Hahaha that video is so bad.

Fake News.

@BrotherGreen13 With the Bible, we have exact locations we can examine, dig, and investigate what the Bible says about those places. With the book of Mormon, we have nothing outside the Book of Mormon that verifies any location or place, or people that it describes.

@BrotherGreen13 and the idea of Jesus coming to North America before his earthly ministry in Israel is equally hard to believe. In fact, theres really no reason to believe it. And all the tests the LDS have done genealogically of N.A ancestry hasn't proven their teachings.

My honest reaction when I see people attacking the Book of Mormon on archeology.

@Tyler_King40 @BookMormonBrah @oliverburdick this is worth the watch youtu.be/FrqkaKz_SSg?si…

@andybcvi @BookMormonBrah @oliverburdick But how do you know that it fails when you don’t understand our faith and you’ve never read the Book of Mormon.

@Tyler_King40 @BookMormonBrah @oliverburdick I know that it fails to measure up to the Bible, and to known history & archaeology. its prophets failed, and its teachings don't adhere to the faith of the earliest Christian believers. mormon doctrine is also built on things beyond the bible or book of mormon as its authority.

@andybcvi @BookMormonBrah @oliverburdick I’m not trying to be a jerk but if you’re not an expert I would hold off on critiquing a faith you don’t understand.

@DavidNo93 @Truth_matters20 trusting or believing in Him or anything isn't considered a work scripturally, that's a choice, and a very important choice. but its the work that Jesus did on the cross that saves. nothing we can do. theres no good deeds we can do to be saved.

@andybcvi @Truth_matters20 So believing in Him

Most people don't understand this. Grace is no longer grace if any human effort is required to achieve it. Even faith itself is a gift of God.

@DavidNo93 @Truth_matters20 anything we do, as individuals.

@Truth_matters20 Whats a work?

@BookMormonBrah @Tyler_King40 @oliverburdick you'll have to forgive me, I'm not an expert on Mormonism. "because he dwelleth in flesh he shall be called the Son of God, and having subjected the flesh to the will of the Father, being the Father and the Son". The Bible clearly says Jesus is the Son of God, though they are one

@andybcvi @Tyler_King40 @oliverburdick What is Abinidai talking about in Mosiah 15?

@BookMormonBrah @Tyler_King40 @oliverburdick A further contradiction is that the Book of Mormon says Jesus was born in Jerusalem, not Bethlehem. (Alma 7:10), (Matthew 2:1; Luke 2:4–7)

@BookMormonBrah @Tyler_King40 @oliverburdick Thanks for the correction. In regards to one God, the Book of Mormon itself would affirm one God, as the Bible does. However the Book of Mormon also says Jesus is the Father, (Mosiah 15:1–5), compared to 2 John 3.

@xagreat He met the risen Jesus, supernaturally. I suppose one can choose to believe that or not, but, the record of Paul's life after this experience would indicate a true experience.

Paul never met Jesus, but he wrote half of the Bible. Lol

@DanMUrgo17 @oliverburdick that's where we disagree. And I've never seen any biblical support to support that doctrine. Wherever 2 or more are gathered in Christ's name, He is there. Any saved, baptized believer can share the Lord's meal. It's not a special right or privilege for only certain christians.

@andybcvi @oliverburdick A regular person concentrate the Eucharist. You need a priest who has partake in the sacrament of holy orders.

@DanMUrgo17 @oliverburdick Jesus did say that if we do not partake of the bread and cup, we have no life in ourselves. However we don't need to solely go to the Catholic Church for that, any believer can partake of the bread and cup of Christ's new covenant.

@andybcvi @oliverburdick You need the Eucharist to be saved.

@BookMormonBrah @Tyler_King40 @oliverburdick Abraham 4:1 says that "the Gods" formed or created the earth. The Book of Mormon does teach one God, aside from that verse, but the Mormon religion teaches there is more than one God, that Mormons could themselves be exalted and become Gods.

@andybcvi @Tyler_King40 @oliverburdick Where does the Book of Mormon teach more than one God? Also, please keep it focused to one thing at a time.

@BookMormonBrah @Tyler_King40 @oliverburdick Jesus affirms there is only one God (Mark 12:29). Jesus teaches that our salvation is in trusting and believing in Him, not any works (John 6:40, John 11:25-26, Matthew 10:32) Mormonism teaches more than one God, and teaches that we are saved "after all we can do".

@andybcvi @Tyler_King40 @oliverburdick Since there's a lot packed here, I would like to take it one at a time in a discussion. I want to start with what I feel is the most important. What teachings of Jesus in the Book of Mormon contradict that of the Bible?

@Tyler_King40 @oliverburdick It can be tested in its accuracy of prophecy, in its accuracy of historical and archeological records, in its contents to previous Bibles and manuscripts, and it's ability to match the teachings of Jesus and His earliest followers and disciples.

@oliverburdick Prove the Book of Mormon is fake news.

@KalenWilliams_ @oliverburdick any that preach the same Christ and gospel the disciples did. the life, death, and resurrection of Christ, His death for our sins. any other gospel is to be accursed.

@oliverburdick Which denomination possesses the correct interpretation of the good news?

@DanMUrgo17 @oliverburdick the building doesn't determine whether a church is legitimate and biblically sound. doctrine does. teaching does. the preacher and congregation does. the Bible does.

@ChristianEmerg1 this is one visual way to see the "falling away" or apostasy in the last days as prophesied in scripture.

It is not loving to turn your church over to those who reject the risen Lord and Savior. It is in fact high spiritual treason.