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@asteraex
Interested in history, anthropology & philosophy. Kurd ☼ ރ
Airyanem Vaējah Katılım Nisan 2022
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The Diaspora of Assyrians/Chaldeans/Syriacs is concentrated within 4 prosperous nations:
USA 🇺🇸
Sweden 🇸🇪
Germany 🇩🇪
Australia 🇦🇺
Swedish and German are vital languages for our people now, shaping the lingua et vita of us.
(excluding English, as it’s global lingua franca)
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@GEnoughh20358 @HemdadArwandi Prove then that we were Yezidi & that Yezidism existed before 12th century.
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There's no such thing as "pre-Islamic Kurdish religion."
We Kurds are Iranians & Persian historical sources highlight the role of Kurds in the Sasanian Zoroastrian army from Ardashir's rise to power until the Arab conquests, this clearly shows that most of us were Zoroastrians.
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The Kurdish groups scoring the highest Iranian ancestry are Yezidis from Turkey, followed by Laki-speaking Kurds from Iran and Kurds from Hakkari. The groups with the lowest Iranian ancestry are Kurmanji-speaking Kurds from Kayseri, followed by Kurmanji-speaking Kurds from Gümüşhane and Zazas from Mardin. Interestingly, Kurds from Ankara and Konya show a decent amount of Iranian ancestry, surpassing even Kurds from Diyarbakir, Van and Duhok. The average Iranian ancestry among all Kurds so far is 58%. Of course, these numbers are not set in stone, as some cities are underrepresented while others are overrepresented.
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@Light3675 @DiegoBrandoDIO_ @JoachimHeli I’ve heard this before. Can you elaborate pls? What do you think is Western Iranian steppe MLBA source from?
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@DiegoBrandoDIO_ @JoachimHeli @asteraex Kurds and Persians have excess BMAC so it's wrong to say all of BMAC is from "Yaz". Practically West Iranics don't have Yaz as online amateurs seem to amplify, but a Yaz-like input which was higher BMAC than the Yaz sample.
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Here is another model for determining the Iron Age Iranian ancestry (Yaz culture) in Kurds. This model might be flawed though, so take it with a grain of salt. Highest scoring are Kurds from Hakkari with 36.4% Turkmenistan_IA and the lowest scoring are Kurds from Van with 21%. The average is 27.4% based on this model.
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The Kurdish groups scoring the highest Iranian ancestry are Yezidis from Turkey, followed by Laki-speaking Kurds from Iran and Kurds from Hakkari. The groups with the lowest Iranian ancestry are Kurmanji-speaking Kurds from Kayseri, followed by Kurmanji-speaking Kurds from Gümüşhane and Zazas from Mardin. Interestingly, Kurds from Ankara and Konya show a decent amount of Iranian ancestry, surpassing even Kurds from Diyarbakir, Van and Duhok. The average Iranian ancestry among all Kurds so far is 58%. Of course, these numbers are not set in stone, as some cities are underrepresented while others are overrepresented.
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@asteraex Thanks but when I add an Armenian-like source, i get negative values and i can’t prevent it
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@DiegoBrandoDIO_ Some Armenian-like source is missing here, otherwise it’s a good model I guess.
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@yankurd Sebep bu olabilir
Doğukan et-Tiflisî el-Karsî el-Azerî ރ@DoguAlTiflisi
Bu modele bir tane de Indus Valley BA/AASI gibi proxy koysaydın daha iyi olurdu bence çünkü bazılarında Slab Grave mirasını şişirmiş (böyle bir proxy olmayınca çoğunlukla Doğu Avrasya'ya kayıyor o bileşen çünkü). Her ne kadar Türkiye'deki Kürtlerde genelde çıkmasa da İranlı Kürtlerde/Lurlarda falan çıkıyor %1-3 Indus Valley/AASI related bir bileşen. Kirmanşah'da mesela %5 Slab Grave çıkmıyordu burada bu yüzden çıkmış galiba.
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@asteraex Kirmanşah Kürtlerinde %5 slabe Grave şaşırtı. Acaba onlarda Alevi Kürtlerin Alevi türkmenler ile evlenmesi gibi şii Kürtler şii Azeriler ile mi evlendi?
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Garnik Asatrian unironically seems to have specialized on Kurdish studies only to promote wrong narratives about Kurds. He is known for holding anti-Kurdish views and has expressed them openly in interviews. He even denies that Kurds are an ethnic group of their own. His claim that the term „Kurd“ derives from kwrt meaning Iranian nomad is an attempt to rob the Kurds of their ethnic identity. His theory that the ancient Cyrtii were non-Iranian natives is also extremely doubtful. Garnik Asatrian is no reliable source rg. Kurds and anything he claims should be treated with caution.
Hemdad Arwandi@HemdadArwandi
Can anyone show me the Middle Perian text where it says Kurd means nomad or tent dweller? I have seen only 3 Middle Persian texts mentioning Kurds, none of them says that Kurd means tent dweller. This claim originates from the work of Armenian nationalist Garnik Asatrian..
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Can anyone show me the Middle Perian text where it says Kurd means nomad or tent dweller?
I have seen only 3 Middle Persian texts mentioning Kurds, none of them says that Kurd means tent dweller.
This claim originates from the work of Armenian nationalist Garnik Asatrian..
suri@suri_washere
@HemdadArwandi Ok.
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@7aljana7i Because Kurdish ethnogenesis took place on the Iranian Plateau, not in Yaz culture, and majority of Kurds migrated out of Iran during early Middle Ages. Zoroastrians are used as a proxy for determining the Kurdish genetic profile prior to that migration.
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@asteraex What is the logic of using Iranian_Zoroastrian as base for Iranic ancestry instead of Yaz culture (Tkm_IA)? Persia, Caspian Sea South shores and Shahrazur probably each had distnict native population when early Iranic migrated from Central Asia to Iranian platue !
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@xelikan23 Istiyorsan koordinatlarini yolla bana bakayim. Konyalilar baya iyi sonuçlar çikariyor.
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