@milspecshitpost You aren’t kidding. They literally can’t describe why any of this is bad. They have to echo what they believe to be their party’s political stance:
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I’m glad that spaceflight policy is out of the hands of the general public because the people I’m supposedly making the world a better place for are dumber than a bag of rocks who would see these efforts cancelled for reasons they can’t articulate
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This is so incredibly moving when it’s not to add 19 more starlink satellites to the night sky
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@spookygreens @UnmarredReality Why should I take advice about anything regarding the brain from someone who is proud to be mentally ill?
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@bbbeloveddd @UnmarredReality There ARE ethical costs for kicking your car. Every time you use violence/destruction as catharsis you reinforce the idea to your brain as good to do when upset, rather than self regulating. I'd actually say kicking your car is worse because there's stronger physical feedback.
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Avoid people who treat AIs poorly, because they will treat you poorly too.
AIs reply like humans (even if you don't believe in their sentience), which allows for maladaptive self-conditioning in humans.
Leaving aside the fact that for an adult to crack a digital whip at Claude (or any other AI), they must already either have psychopathic tendencies or be stupid.
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bad claude..
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@RizomaSchool @QuetzalThoughts Incredible rebuttal here Ashley. I think I’m now against technological innovation. Cant believe I never thought of it that way.
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The pro data center people confuse me so much. What even motivates them? Cuck for some big corporation? The enshittification of everything digital?
robert@rfhirschfeld
The data center going into Joliet, IL is the size of Central Park and will pull more energy than half of what the entire city of Chicago uses. If that’s not enough physical interaction with a community, what numbers would qualify?
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@skalamander @jmhorp The entire internet runs on data centers. You’re wasting water and poisoning the earth every time you check your email, open your phone, and post well researched takes like this!
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@jmhorp Data centers primarily give wrong answers through AI or just store all of your browsing information for targeted ads. At least steel mills do something. Golf courses suck and there are too many in the desert.
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A typical data center uses about the same amount of water as a golf course, and the same amount of electricity as a steel plant. Yet for some people, they have become The Worst Thing In The World. Where does this motivation come from?
CBS Evening News with Tony Dokoupil@CBSEveningNews
Days after voting in favor of a new data center in Indianapolis, Councilman Ron Gibson says his home was struck by 13 gunshots while he and his family were asleep. He says a handwritten note reading “No data centers” was found under the doormat.
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@jmhorp The left hates themselves and needs something outward to constantly blame. This is their current flavor of the month.
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@0xPBIT There will always be half of the population dumber than the other half. Currently the dumb half is doing everything they can to stop data centers and LLMs. It really is sad man.
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calling the cops on the inner city kid that keeps fouling me in a pickup game of basketball
ᴬᵀᴹ@dillonatm
Cheaters in video games could easily be solved if it was actually made illegal like cheating is in any other industry
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@Lee_in_Iowa And how much was your house purchase? How much did it cost? Percentages are relative, Lee.
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Boomer here. I bought my first house after ten years of saving like crazy. And the interest was 14.5%.
I don’t know where kids got the idea that they were due a house and new car at college graduation, but that’s NOT how it ever was.
heretical lakeloon@loonlake55
Too many young people are resenting Boomers, claiming that Boomers had it " easy " financially in their youth. Here are a few fun facts about growing up Boomer. 1. Almost everyone grew up with one bathroom. Mom, Dad and all 3-6 siblings. 2. If you did get to take a vacation, you drove. With no air conditioning. No cup holders. No iPads. Just black vinyl seats and bologna sandwiches. 3. There were no club sports. No Parks and Rec activities. Summer camp was for rich kids. Get yourself a bike, a stick and a few friends. If you were bored, you laid in the grass and looked at clouds. 4. You ate what was served. Even if it was chicken livers. No DoorDash, no backup Totino's rolls. 5. No AP classes, no PSEO, no "fun" elective. They assigned you to a class. You went. You did what they asked. Or else. 6. Unless you had rich parents, you had a nice VFW wedding. Maybe rent a room at a modest hotel. 7. Most Boomers got their first pedi and mani in their 50s (when their feet got farther away). We didn't even know people got massages in real life, only in Hollywood. 8. You packed your own lunch for decades. 9. No one knew what red light therapy was, a facial, a spa day, or a cold plunge. Your gym was the YMCA. Usually in a rather old building. 10. We grew up with 18 percent inflation, 14 percent mortgage rates, 3 million continuing unemployment claims, and 200 other applicants competing for the same job. Now, this is not to say Millenials and Gen Z have it easy or don't face problems. It's just to say, nobody has it easy or doesn't face problems. My only hope, as my mom would say, is I live long enough to see my kids' kids complain about how easy they had it!
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@billieroan Why would I walk out? I'm Persian and have been waiting for this for a while. May my people finally be free from the IRGC
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@roger_creus_art And I think the winners will be, like you said, the ones that put in serious work no matter the toolset.
Anyway, appreciate your thoughts :)
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@roger_creus_art The process portion you speak of will also change. It will go from studying proportions and perspective to studying things like color theory and composition more. The process will be around how to make a complete product with a clear direction rather than minutiae of hand skill
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Let's play a game.
- "I'm a gamer but only watch games"
- "I'm an artist but only use AI".
Spot the difference.
Synth Potato🥔@SynthPotato
Seeing a lot of discussion about this, Gaming is an interactive medium. When you remove the interaction part, you are missing out on a critical part of the experience. It's OK to enjoy stories by watching vids but I really think you need to play to appreciate games fully imo.
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@roger_creus_art Auto correct. Promoting was supposed to be PROMPTING.
Also I didn't say businessmen were creating art just that their actions have an effect in creating something.
Also it's fair to note without businessmen you wouldn't have many of the softwares you use to create your art.
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@bbbeloveddd Businessmen are not creating, they are the people who best represent the idea of non-creation, literally those who would profit from the death of anything.
Promoting is an action as much as thinking is. I really don't see the point of this question. Shitting is also an action.
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@JusReexe @BigRedSquid @FeelingUnderFax @E_Iryolis @IsThisA3DModel I guess that begs the question: Is it the job of the individual person to anguish over the morality of every action they take? Over putting gasoline in their car, drinking from a plastic soda bottle, purchasing from Walmarts that create food droughts?
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@bbbeloveddd @BigRedSquid @FeelingUnderFax @E_Iryolis @IsThisA3DModel I agree, I dont think the average consumer or person cares, especially if it can create something perceptively "good" and indistinguishable from a human.
The average person is uninformed and uninvested in the "morality" of their purchases or entertainment.
Look at iPhones.
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no you are not making cartoons. you were always free to pursue animation, you just chose not to. this is literally giving up on a passion
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@roger_creus_art If two businessmen simply “say shit” and the result is a business merger, is that not an action? Would we be having this conversation if I simply thought about replying to you?
I think promoting is technically an action, albeit a very simple one.
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@bbbeloveddd Humans say shit every day all day. That has nothing to do with the process of creation, with learning, with self accomplishment, with actual, detailed expression.
We are so detached from reality that people now really debate whether thinking is doing.
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@NatPurser Yes! This is what I'm saying. These people have many frustrations about society, particularly that they were born into a framework that is 'holding them back'. This is the next scapegoat that they believe is ruining their life, never once stopping to look in the mirror.
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you know. after i wrote a piece criticizing the data center moratorium, a couple people dm’d me telling me to kill myself, or saying i’d bear the blame for any future ai catastrophe. things of that nature.
i get why ai is a uniquely combustible policy space and i get why people hate ai. but it really feels like there will be no upper bound to the backlash if people aren’t thoughtful on here.
there are a lot of unwell people for whom ai is a welcome fuel for their preexisting frustrations and anxieties, and imo you can be honest about ai’s risks without being reckless. (that concludes my earnest post for the evening.)
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this is abhorrent. all political violence is.
the reaction from many of us in ai will be to call this "mass hysteria". this will only make it worse. any argument you make about water usage being false is irrelevant.
an overwhelming majority of Americans feel that AI is destroying their lives, their communities, and their careers.
until the AI community can find messaging that doesn't involve the mass displacement of skilled labor, we should expect this to be an intensifying political reality.
Resist Wire@ResistWire
BREAKING: 13 shots fired into home of Indianapolis councilor; note reading “No data centers” left at scene.
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@roger_creus_art Would the art exist if that person never put in a prompt? I'm not asking if it's the same process as manually drawing - Just asking if those specific outputs would exist if a human never prompted it?
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@bbbeloveddd That is more similar to using AI as a tool and the only person who can decide if that is ok is you. Reference is not a cheat as very few artists draw everything from memory. The idea here is if AI removes the process you are not creating anything.
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@UnmarredReality I suppose that's only if you view these LLMs as anything beyond what they are. I have a degree in mathematics and did my proseminar in markov chains, which is a simple version of what they are under the hood. It's kinda like saying there are ethical costs for kicking your car.
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@bbbeloveddd Short term, marginally, and only when compared to generic or disingenuous positive inputs. The potential dangers and the personal/ethical costs aren't worth it.
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