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ex @lobbyfinance currently building something cool for AERO @eth_munich

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It feels like the things that got me into web3 are not considered as sexy anymore. And I am asking myself how we came here. (Not going to put this one to be rewritten by ChatGPT, if it is imperfect I couldn‘t care less) My story isn’t particularly remarkable. As a teenager in mid-2017, I invested all my saved pocket money into $ETH, which I unfortunately lost due to my own mistakes in 2020. I didn’t participate in ICOs, the DeFi Summer, or the NFT craze. Since I began building things gradually in 2022, my belief in $ETH has only grown stronger. To this day, I don’t engage in trading or flipping; I’ve only been buying since 2021. Despite (and the last few weeks: in spite of) the current narrative on CT, I still believe I’m making the right decision. And I feel like this position needs to be more proactively communicated and defended in the Twitter trenches. First, to clear things up: What is wrong with our space? - ETH price action compared to USD, BTC and (even) SOL is the starting point of the negative narrative towards $ETH (and I am convinced that it is not vice versa). - The fails of Ethereum (which are often temporary and very subjective) are ever so salient on CT in comparison to its successes. - The orange coin, getting attention from large-scale investors and nation-states it does not deserve. Gambling and putting things on-chain that in no world need be on-chain is normalised (yet again). Where do I think the issue is coming from? 1. The CT establishment in a broader sense is underinvested in ETH. Having gotten into ETH early enough has made those involved (too) well off by now to bother with the narratives on this app. At the end of the day, those who are the most visible in CT need to pump their bags, and they are clearly more likely to make quick wealth off their [insert altcoin ticker] bags than off ETH. 2. The outside interest in web3 has locked in perhaps too much capital, which has perverted the market into believing that we do need 150+ Ethereum layer 2s, so many generalised/use case-specific L1s and so many other things that are only destined to go down in oblivion. It almost feels like some projects don‘t even have to bother making revenue or bringing real value to raise a seven-digit sum. 3. Problems of Ethereum are real and serious, there‘s no question. Wrong focus was being made for way too long on things like the “Ultrasound Money” thing. I loved the analogy @samkazemian made at their Bankless podcast a couple of weeks ago: “And he's like [talking of Justing Drake]: “You can think of ETH as a big business. You can extrapolate the ETH asset discounted cash flows. And you can imagine a world in five, 10, 15 years where there's hundreds of billions of dividends happening through this burn [EIP-1559]. And then you can extrapolate ETH having that.” He's basically saying, let's just trade it at the floor. Let's just everyone coordinate to talk about the floor of ETH. The way that I imagine if people only talked about the industrial use case of gold in circuit boards and electronics, and that would suck, right?” Instead of pushing things like scaling the mainnet, we were jerking off on things like ultrasound.money and ethismoney.xyz. Is it really so bad though? No. At least not anymore. To problem 1: The shift in the narrative and the price action has ignited the discussions on Ethereum evangelism led by the OGs, who have got lots to say but were dormant (at least publicly). The FUD towards Ethereum is reaching or has already reached its ATH, while all those yapping to dunk on Ethereum are doing so (seemingly) in revenge for similar situations they had previously (e.g., the sub-$10 Solana). I think many people understand the following thing: Ethereum is not the fastest in chasing the newest tech or changing things in general, but when the ship turns around, you know it is coming for you. To problem 2: There’s still A LOT of money being invested, with several huge alt-L1 deals announced lately. It doesn’t look like there’s a huge shift here (yet), but there is a hope that things will change after the Movement case. To problem 3: There is a shift here already. Ethereum is waking up, and everybody feels it. @VitalikButerin is talking about changing and essentially simplifying both the consensus and the execution layers in his latest articles and posts. New Ethereum Co-EDs, @Etherealize_io coming up, and so many more things. Ethereum knows perfectly well where its weaknesses lie and is going to deliver very soon. That, plus post-Pectra blob scaling, is not going to leave any air to alt-L1s. So, if it is not so bad… is it going to be gud soon? Yes, I think so. 1. ETH is at prices it was at early 2021 and through the 2022-2023 bear market. 2. At the same time, Ethereum TVL in USD terms is 2.5x up from where it’s been during the bear market. RWAs will be primarily issued on Ethereum. 3. Ethereum Stablecoin supply is at its ATH. 4. While Ethereum mainnet has got roughly the same number of users as when ETH was at $4700, Ethereum L2s have broken their ATH in user count last week (Ethereum L2s ARE Ethereum and will get even more integrated with time, period). Ethereum L2 are also already processing 15x more TPS than Ethereum. Provided the price follows these fundamentals and the current change in the social layer, those who faded Ethereum will look stupid very soon. The ship is already turning.
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ben@benjarosetree·
My AERO bull post (so that I can say I told you so afterwards) I think it is now also my turn to bring out my AERO bull post. Won’t get into too many details on what it is and how it works - if you are interested in this, just check out @0xkiringe. Guy has been using more words writing posts about AERO than talking to hist girlfriend (I think it is not even a joke). At the beginning of the year, I finally acknowledged that my L2 bet was a big mistake and dumped every alt I had but for ETH and GNO and put it all into AERO. Max-locked right away, and have been voting every week. Sold voting rewards every week for AERO. Bought more AERO for my crypto card cash back. Every week. Bought 5-15% discounted small veNFTs and accumulated more AERO. And still doing this. @0xkiringe and I developed a script that reads the state of voting for emissions just 4 seconds before the voting ends, analyses it, optimises our votes for the best return with a greedy algorithm, and votes in the very last block possible, just 1 second before the deadline. This allows us to get one of the best, if not the best performances in whole ecosystem. The whole economy around the token just makes sense. The protocol paid out ~$167m to AERO veNFT holders last year, and there has barely been another protocol that pays more to its token holders. 100% of protocol revenue go to the token holders - this level of designed transparency is something I learned to value after holding some other governance tokens (iykyk). The capital efficiency of the token’s emissions is also something I personally don’t remember seeing anywhere else (I mean it is actually net positive!). With a bit of luck and a lot of though put into protocol design, Aerodrome has been a winning DEX on Base. With the upcoming upgrade, there are a lot of things I am bullish on. Predictive allocation is something @0xkiringe has pitched to me back in November, long before it has been announced. We called it “futarchy” for aero emissions. I thought this would be genius, but did not believe this would come. Just too complicated to implement on this scale. Well, here we are. While I am not super bullish on Aero going multichain on 14 useless (sorry) L2s, each of which introduce more risk than opportunity (imho), I think the move to deploy on Ethereum would have more impact on protocol’s revenue than any other past and future feature they ship. Base has become a strong chain in terms of liquidity in almost no time, but L1 has always been a different echelon. So now, I’d like to leave a couple very speculative, and barely educated bets on Aero until end of 2026. 1. Protocol revenue will surpass $300m (annualised after the upgrade from July) 2. TVL will (easily) cross $1b and converge toward $1.5b 3. At least one $1B+ valued Aero Ignition will occur (not as easy as it used to be!) Needless to say that Aero will eat Uni’s and to a large extent Curve’s lunch in L1. As well as it is needless to say that the token price will reflect the protocol’s growth with a multiplied effect. The question is then: what’s next? Lending? Own stablecoin? Perps? (picture unrelated)
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ben@benjarosetree·
@veBASED @0xkiringe ideally we would become a relay and then it is going to grow the pie but we'll see
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ben@benjarosetree·
@veBASED @0xkiringe not for now fren it is a zero sum game unfortunately. but it will be different with predictive allocation
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ben@benjarosetree·
@0xkiringe just bring out an aeroPlane at this point
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Kiringe 🛫@0xkiringe·
@wagmiAlexander Glad that I can contribute this way to MetaDAO03. More to come! People really do not get it yet. Just follow @AerodromeFi, me, @wagmiAlexander and the full aero team and read the posts or die from FOMO in July ☠️
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alexander@wagmiAlexander·
Outside of @0xkiringe who has been writing some amazing threads based on it, I don't think folks realized just how much detail we published on MetaDEX03. One of the largest and most significant protocol upgrades in DeFi history is coming in July. 👇
Aerodrome@AerodromeFi

With the announcement of Predictive Allocation, we're hearing more questions about how the new Aero will work. So, we're opening up the repo. For a look under the hood, click the link to learn more about the current thinking behind MetaDEX03 👇 github.com/dromos-labs/me…

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Koki@k0k1eth·
Deutschland, Schweiz, Österreich und Lichtenstein auch Wer Kartoffel Kabal beitreten möchte einfach ein Kommentar hier lassen und ich schreibe dir eine DM Du musst nur Deutsch reden können und deine Steuern Ordentlich zahlen Gibt noch Plätze, bei 750 machen wir nochmal Pause
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alexander@wagmiAlexander·
A very fun spreadsheet is taking shape.🛫
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ben@benjarosetree·
A wild thought that came across my mind today: shall @AerodromeFi still marry @VelodromeFi, after what we have seen happening to another multichain protocol? Aerodrome made $82m of holders’ revenue alone on Base in the last 12 months, Velodrome did $2.8m. Aerodrome is profitable (net of emissions), Velodrome has printed 2m for <1m of profit. Aerodrome is incredibly strong on Base, and will likely double/triple the revenue after going live on mainnet. Velodrome is live on 9+ L2s (and AERO is to add a couple more) while @etheconomiczone would make many L2s redundant and the liquidity has been leaving for the mainnet for quite some time anyway. Also not likely to reverse due to the last few days’ events. Don’t the risks of going live on 14 rollups apart from L1 and Base outweigh the opportunity? Why not just go with Base and Mainnet, and become the most robust and future-proof protocol for the future if EEZ does become a thing? Without having to maintain the legacy of 14 superchain rollups after Base leaves the Superchain? I don’t have a strong opinion, rather would like to hear yours.
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Berlin Ethereum Meetup@BerlinMeetup·
The Berlin Ethereum community has been growing and uniting at Co-working Wednesdays and our monthly meetups! We’re happy to announce that there are a few openings for co-working memberships for aligned individuals and a small team. Interested? Link below 🧵👇
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ben@benjarosetree·
@danimimm I think they‘ve lost a lot! You will be fine Dani, pretty sure your next endeavour will be a step up! Probably also not the worst time to take a time off defi
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danimim.eth@danimimm·
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ben@benjarosetree·
@uttam_singhk I mean ppl were complaining that the apy was so low lately Thanks Kim
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Uttam@uttam_singhk·
well not a financial advice but stablecoin APY looking good here on Aave
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ben@benjarosetree·
Hot take: why would @AerodromeFi not scrape the tens-of-chains-setup with Hyperlane and just go with Mainnet and Base for the sake of our saving our mental health and security? After what‘s happening with sPeCialiSeD bridges like LZ my knees would be shaking to launch on a dozen of chains. Aero has always had balls, no questions here, but maybe we need less of them this time?
Kiringe 🛫@0xkiringe

Day 17: metaDEX3.0 dive, how secure is the cross-chain of @AerodromeFi? Why cross-chain DeFi gets hacked for billions of dollars? Let's explore how Aerodrome solves this challenge for v3. #AeroDynamics3 #MetaDEX #Aerodrome #Base

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ben@benjarosetree·
may I repeat myself l1, base or die if you are still using [paste your l2], you may want to ask yourself why you are doing this
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l1, base or die

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ben@benjarosetree·
@aaalexhl bro it is still a multiple of what some reputable companies worth billions made today
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ben@benjarosetree·
@zealwallet how bout 2026 my homie
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Zeal | Spend & Earn@zealwallet·
2024: "DeFi is too risky" 2025: sitting on 6% APY watching your bank offer 0.5% The risk is staying in TradFi
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@ryanberckmans·
remember the people grave dancing on defi and eth today
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