Blak
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Blak
@blako87
pasionate about Technology , HVAC & Coding , Optimizing comfort with smart engineering

MoE vs dense offload on 8GB VRAM MoE offload is 10.8x faster than dense offload on 8GB VRAM. here's the proof. I tested Qwen3.6 35B A3B (MoE, 3B active) vs Qwen3.6 27B (dense, 27B active) on my RTX 4060 Ti 8GB. the numbers: >MoE (-ncmoe 30): 35.4 tok/s >dense (-ngl 20): 3.28 tok/s ratio: 10.8x it gets worse at longer context. at 24K tokens, the gap is 16.7x. MoE has zero context degradation (SSM layers), dense loses -35.4%. why: MoE expert offload keeps the hot path (3B active params) entirely in VRAM. only inactive experts move to CPU when selected. dense layer offload splits every layer across GPU and CPU. every token bounces through PCIe for all 64 layers. the bandwidth bottleneck is fatal. quality is slightly better on dense (5/6 vs 4/6). the 27B model has the best hallucination resistance of all 9 models I tested. if you have 8GB VRAM and a model that doesn't fit: MoE with expert offload, not dense with layer offload.




be patient anon. i could fake the AMD numbers tonight. i won't. so we wait.

























