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@joeroganhq Yeah. Government "works".

Rob Reiner: "Trump is the single most unqualified human being to ever assume the presidency of the United States. He’s mentally unfit. Not only does he not understand how government works, but he has no interest in trying to find out."

@BetterAmericaX @michaeljknowles Yep. And ironically, both would-be totalitarians on the left and the right love to use Orwell for their own ideological purposes. It's very meta-Orwellian.

Respectfully, this reads like how a middle school student would interpret Animal Farm. The book’s main target is totalitarianism, corruption, propaganda, and the betrayal of revolutionary ideals, especially as Orwell saw it in Stalinism. Saying the conclusion is that “some communists are just as bad as capitalists” is a little too simplistic. The ending is more that a ruling class can become indistinguishable from the oppressors it replaced. The pigs start by denouncing the humans, then become just like them. Orwell’s point is less “capitalism good” or “communism bad” and more that power without accountability corrupts any system.

It's worth remembering that Animal Farm is not a "pro-capitalist" novel. George Orwell was a socialist. The nearest thing to a good guy in the book is a communist, Leon Trotsky. And book's conclusion is that some communists are just as bad as capitalists.

@james_xond This historically goes really well for the people in power to consolidate their power.

Unpopular opinion but the right to vote shouldn’t be automatic. It should require passing a basic test on economics, finance, history, and how laws and public policy actually work… Pass it, you vote. Fail it, you don’t.

@JacobsVegasLife Triple zero is simply greedy on the house's part. Probably a good idea to just stay away from Roulette altogether. Maybe a single zero, but those seem to be as rare as $4.99 buffets these days.

Don't play this in Vegas

@ChildOfChuck @centrist1965 @hasanthehun The US is quasi-socialist and spent the 20th century creeping down the socialist scale. Wars were fought over commies, not socialism.

@centrist1965 @brownnation @hasanthehun But aren’t they also scared of countries that have socialist revolutions, because of the influence it could have on other countries around them, resulting in a sort of domino effect?

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@SaferHaywood @reyechuss @abbythelibb_ ... and if you're allowed to discuss it beforehand, tell your loved ones to pick red also.

@SaferHaywood @reyechuss @abbythelibb_ These are all presumptions that are being added into the thought experiment. We don't know these things. I don't know if the designer of the question meant to literally include all 8-9 billion people on the planet, or just those sufficiently capable of doing an of "voting"...

The point of the buttons dilemma is to morally blackmail people into suicidal empathy and to give more fuel to the increasingly violent hatred toward those who refuse.

@SaferHaywood @reyechuss @abbythelibb_ ... As written, you just pick red. If all the additive conditions of the "test" that the blue group are presuming is true, of course it changes the calculus. But we don't know at this point, so it's best to be parsimonious. Pick red and live...

@Jree503 @reyechuss @abbythelibb_ It's of great consequence. There's no zero sum component to the problem. There's zero reason to put anyone in jeopardy in the first place. Pick red. Live.

@brownnation @reyechuss @abbythelibb_ Because red you need 100% to save everyone Blue you only need 50% plus one If your intent is for everyone to live blue is obviously the logical choice.

@Jree503 @reyechuss @abbythelibb_ Quit saying "save". There's no one to save. Everyone can choose red.

@MarkYoungTruth Yes. That's why I said so. But thanks for adding nothing to the conversation... Again.

@brownnation I am sure it is to you.

There are no real atheists, just those who know or do not know what God they serve .

@Jordjypordjy @MarkYoungTruth It's playing with definitions to make theists feel better. I assure you that I don't believe. It's obnoxious to play a linguistic game and tell me whether or not I believe in a god, that I actually do.

@brownnation @MarkYoungTruth Maybe. But he’s talking about atheists here. And rejecting ALL gods is still different than picking the wrong one. At least if you pick the wrong god you can at least acknowledge something outside yourself as god.

@ChildOfChuck @hasanthehun Your response has nothing to do with what I said.

@brownnation @hasanthehun Bro says this as if the US has never bombed any country that tried going socialist

@reyechuss @abbythelibb_ There's no one to "save". Press red. Everyone has the same option. No need for ANYONE to be in harm's way. No one on team Blue has explained (without convaluted assumptions about babies and children voting) why anyone would be in harm's way.

@abbythelibb_ For me it was much simpler. Do I want to try and save everyone or just myself?

@theramblingfool If there was a zero sum component to the "dilemma" at hand this could be argued. There isn't. Everyone has the option to press red and live. Just press red. This isn't difficult.

Has anyone encountered a response to this point that didn't deny reality, try to redefine the hypothetical, or admit to psychopathy?

Pro-red responses I've seen, when confronted with the possibility someone they care about might press blue: (1) No one I care about would ever press blue (really?) (2) [insert problematic group] aren't included in the hypo (wrong) (3) Those loved ones have to die (psychopathic)

@FondOfBeetles @DStrungk There's no self-interest involved. It isn't zero sum. Everyone and anyone can choose to be safe with a red vote.

@DStrungk It really isn’t. It’s testing whether revealing self-interest nudges anyone’s choice. If it doesn’t, it doesn’t 🤷‍♀️

This is a confession that the motive for voting blue is to signal.

@NobodymrRobert Slight perimeter gap filled in by same area rectangle.

Make it Make sense.

@BritishTaiga @Timcast Counter: red voters have ultimate trust in society. Everyone who presses red survives. Press red. We all survive. This isn't even a dilemma. Just hit the red button and we all move to the next level.

@Timcast The very people bemoaning about the loss of a high-trust society are the same one ones voting red. Voting red is the greatest example of a person who only thinks of themselves and causing a low-trust society.

Red and blue button moral dillema is now a hiring question If you pick red youre not getting hired