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@Nlkki23 @LEC_Wooloo caliste not even better than upset

@LEC_Wooloo strong arguments would be to place Caps and caliste in the 7-10 spot. Wouldnt place them any higher, but they definatly make it in the 10.

I'm genuinly curious, would anyone be able to make a Top 10 of strongest lol pro players worldwide at the current moment? Would any Western player be a part of it? I expect First Stand probably leans the answer of most towards a yes ?

@VERYRARE_0 @RebergOlle @Nymaera if we're going off 1 game sample sizes

@cccc29c @RebergOlle @Nymaera Caps beat Knight harder on Aurora than Knight beat any other player. Like ??

Knight, Zeka & Chovy clear quite easily

@laapino_no @GeorgeGedd @babybay got banned mid match

@GeorgeGedd @babybay @babybay bro you cheated?

be babybay: > known as a troll in CS > cheats in an ESEA match > plays overwatch > become hitscan god > almost wins stage 1 playoffs > play valorant > quit > become a commentator > gets opportunity to play pro again > join G2 > win Stage 1 Genius

@jack7pistolCS @Jackinhocs this method doesnt work for dmas which is all of the cheating at pro level

@cccc29c @Jackinhocs Then screenshot method. AC takes a random screenshot that is sent to the system and analysed for visuals, great for catchign wh and radar hack. And people still going to use sound based cheats to bypass this, but having nothing in place is much worse.

I think the easiest solution in short term is to have a kernel level anti-cheat for VRS tournaments. If you want to compete in valve ranked events this anti-cheat should be a requirement. But TOs will never force it, Valve will not do it. community have to push for it

@jack7pistolCS @Jackinhocs but thats not realistic when theres a lot of qualifier games going on

@cccc29c @Jackinhocs That is a diferent problem. When it comes to tournaments you need experienced people to go over games. It's that simple.

@jack7pistolCS @Jackinhocs you dont see cheaters in valorant tier 2 and how would overwatch help combat cheating in open qualifiers

@Jackinhocs Again with the kernel propaganda..kernel is an outdated method . One measure is not going to cover every type of cheater eather. Several measures are required to solve this problem. Which they won't take none, since they even took off their main one, which was OVERWATCH.

@RebergOlle @Nymaera caps beat knight on aurora meaning knight is worse on aurora. are you retarded like seriously

@Nymaera I think saying they clear easily when caps fisted knight on the pick at first stand harder than any of those three has done to a lpl/lck mid, is hyperbolic to say the least. Saying that there is a discussion to be had, would be more fair

@itsaNLR @AkkadSecretary hvac

@AkkadSecretary Do they use smaller units like window-mounted ones, or central HVAC systems?

British people responding these magic boxes all confused as why you would buy it when its only really hot for 2 weeks and cold the rest of the time. Guys, it can heat up the room too.

@default041 niko stockholm 2021 is bigger than anything ropz ever did

Whatever you do, don’t ask aizyesque about ropz performances in map 3 of the Copenhagen major grand final and map 3 of the Shanghai major grand final. Definition of a front runner, only is world class on the best team ever

@moeratmo @BlobbySquid_ @haeyo_day @EvilGeniuses ohy eah xd

@cccc29c @BlobbySquid_ @haeyo_day @EvilGeniuses u mean attack?

yo haters🤫 #VALORANT 2-0 @EvilGeniuses

@BlobbySquid_ @haeyo_day @EvilGeniuses defence

@haeyo_day @EvilGeniuses I beg someone looks at his stats on atk vs def

@wldn97 @RichsWrath because hans is 26

@RichsWrath I think the counterpoint is that there have been reports that G2 have expressed interest in Caliste during multiple off seasons

Hans Sama - Labrov is the most direspected botlane ever. The community constantly calls for one or both to be replaced despite that fact that they're literally both top 1 in their role in the West🤷

Being poor makes you spontaneously organize and run nationwide child rape gangs because you just had no choice did you

@arshgoyal13 2 flukes from FLY doesnt mean C9 isnt still better than both lyon and tl

LCS power rankings after week 1 of playoffs: I think FLY will have a tough time in lower bracket but they're scaling fast, rematch against C9 will be miles easier than the TLAW matchup if they beat SEN. 1. LYON 2. TLAW 3. C9 4. FLY 5. SEN 6. DSG 7. SR 8. DIG

@HommyAG pick me pantheon

I'll say it, if TL drafted remotely like humans they win that series #LCS

@budegadeleao i would rather see F2 every round than dmrs

F2 is Siege’s AWP We living Siege’s double AWP meta

@Cubbyxx @kingantony00 @MrsChimChimLOL how can you say this and then freak out when someone said that academy players being paid 60k a year was too much

@kingantony00 @MrsChimChimLOL Almost like ticket sales are a big part of the business

I appreciate @MrsChimChimLOL show and getting this out of Perry, something I've known since Perry's interview with Travis. Reading through this thread: I've never been more motivated to step away from T2 and my work. Majority of the thread is talking about why money was thrown away on these players. The reality is it doesn't apply to the minimum salary players, it applies to the orgs that gave Academy players $300k + to buyout jail them from going to LCS teams. The number quoted was based on California Minimum Salary in the state. These players are competing 8+ hours a day in scrims, not to mention solo queue time in the office. Given the time investment, LEGALLY THEY WERE NOT ABLE TO BE PAID LESS!! And the community response is they were paid too much and didn't provide value? Blows my fucking mind. How many triple AAA baseball players or G-League basketball players are providing direct value to you as a fan while they try to make it? The value is there when they do and you know what? The difference of salary between Jojopyun and Humanoid for EG when they went with Jojopyun nearly covered the costs of Academy for the year according to EG. If you want to talk about the exorbitant salaries of some of the pro players in the space and the lack of monetizing those players and personalities, I would say that's more than fair and I've been on the record for that. But going after T2 players when they got shell shocked by the same people that paid those salaries for the T1 players and within 6 months of me moving out to LA to cover NACL btw, I find to be beyond gross. 0 understanding from the community, and 0 empathy or sympathy from the community for the players who were trying to make it and keep the scene alive with their commitment to trying to go pro.

@gadj_man @KingTCSGO hext was way better vs eu teams on M80 than jba was on wildcard jba has had so many opportunities to prove himself vs eu teams and he never did anything

@KingTCSGO Idk, I think this is more of a hindsight being 20-20 moment. HexT was really unremarkable on a strong M80, and he has become so much better on Wildcard. JBa was farming on a dysfunctional Wildcard before he came to M80 and dropped off.

HexT is too damn good. M80 should've found a way to keep him.

@captaincums @Mauisnake its underappreciated as in people dont talk about it as much as they should in the goat debate with karrigan

@cccc29c @Mauisnake idk about underappreciated, he was top 8 in the world individually during the astralis era.

I don't hear this enough in GOAT IGL discussions, but this is why my grading of IGLs will always include some element of how well they individually play. There is a skill floor which karrigan has landed at which is too low to be part of winning Tier 1 Counter-Strike.