Ciarán Ó Deoráin

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Auguste Rodin & COT 🤝 Frank Sinatra Riding high in April Shot down in May But back on top in June

@proudy27 Tbh, I wouldn't have had Precise quite in the same class as Lake Victoria, maybe I'm wrong on that one

@ciaranodeorain And Ryan will ride and gift Wayne 3 fillies Classic wins in a row! Was very strange today, I had just assumed he would ride Precise as it was exactly the same situation as Lake Victoria last year. He just needs to hope CR goes to France so he won't see Wayne win the Derby on BC.

I would guess that Precise now goes to the Oaks Aidan loves the Irish 1,000 Guineas-Oaks route, has gone that way with Imagine, Minding, and Tuesday

@QuackersTich Amelia Earhart?

@ciaranodeorain What's Wayne going to be on?

@ouijaboard00 Do you need to stay to win the Oaks? Fields can be quite small, Minding didn’t really stay and she met trouble in running but still won

@ciaranodeorain She’s a lovely filly but she won’t stay at Epsom

@i_horseracing Yes although to play devil’s advocate, when you consider how good he was, he would’ve been covering very good books Like if you had’ve restricted Galileo to 30 mares back in his pomp, he would’ve covered the best 30 mares out of his older, bigger book

@ciaranodeorain He had Northern Trick in Europe that year as well. All from a crop of about 30 foals. I know it was a different world back then, but it puts the (still meritorious) achievements of these modern stallions who have the benefit of big books into perspective.

Istabraq’s sire beating Istabraq’s 3/4s brother (And subsequent Derby winner) into 3rd Crazy thing is that neither Sadler’s Wells nor Secreto were even the best son of Northern Dancer in training in Ireland that year

@InsightChange He’s 114-rated and finished 3l behind Gstaad who’s 120-rated so probably ran to his rating

@ciaranodeorain What did you make of DS seemed to be travelling really well, then paddling with legs going everywhere then ran on…

2,000 Guineas form looks fairly solid Gstaad nearly looks like you could step him up in trip

@tx725r4fzh Yeah, wouldn’t read too much into that tbh, that’s a long way away

@ciaranodeorain AOB say he may race him in Cox Plate few months ago?

@dec_car Someone else brought this one up in the US racingpost.com/news/internati…

@ciaranodeorain I think twins may have ran against each other or on the same card at Curragh a few years ago. Rare both survive

Almaqam & Saddadd both declared for the Tatts GC, can’t be too many instances of siblings running against each other in a flat G1? Highland Reel & Idaho in the 2017 Coronation Cup the first example that springs to mind

@Teamzig2003 Yes indeed

@ciaranodeorain El Gran Senor

@Davidpearse80 El Gran Senor

@ciaranodeorain I’m curious, who was it bud ?

@EireSportsViews They won the Arc before STS

@ciaranodeorain Bago, Hurricane Run?

Daryz the best colt to win the Arc since.....? Would personally have him ahead of Ace Impact Golden Horn maybe STS the last colt to definitely be better than him

@DavidCa14313648 @The2000Guineas His dam was a half-sister to a Cheveley Park winner though and his full-sister came 3rd in the Mill Reef a few years later

@ciaranodeorain @The2000Guineas Mill Reef was bred to stay 12 furlongs. His sire won over 10 furlongs and his dam's sire won over 16 furlongs.

Looking at the pedigrees of the 1,2 in this year's 2000 Guineas , there is on paper a very definite question mark about their ability to stay 1 mile. Their dams never won beyond 6f and Gstaad is a brother to a 6f Group 1 winner. Is something changing in the modern pedigree ?

@ronniedaguilar Yeah, came 1st and 3rd

@ciaranodeorain Think Kyprios and Search For A Song rang against each other in the 22 Irish St Leger

@ouijaboard00 Good shout, would say I had memory-holed him because he was there on pacemaker duties

@ciaranodeorain Bullet Train for about a year!

A Sea The Stars 2yo winning in May….