@kork2thousand @junkyj64 @basmaTgirl If black people just want to joke about it then fine, but clearly this has been made into a social justice issue trying to control what words people use.
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Colin Ruth
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@colindr23 @junkyj64 @basmaTgirl so why cant black people mock flamboyant gays for flamboyantly misusing their dialect
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so like is this how american white gays for real sound? like its not a bit or a joke? I dont live in an area where most people speak english so I thought it was just a stereotype.
moowsie@moowsiie
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@RaideroRacc This most likely comes from black gays who white gays pick it up from, not directly from black women. So it comes naturally from the gay community. I’ve never seen anyone do it to an extreme like this, just an occasional phrase, the cartoon just looks like language policing
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One thing I think the discourse about this is missing, is do any of us actually know any white gay guys who talk like this? Cause I've never met one. You're gonna act woke but use negative inaccurate stereotypes to misrepresent a demographic just to make your point
moowsie@moowsiie
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@clevercorvidae_ @RaideroRacc Exactly, I’ve never seen a white gay guy do a complete imitation of a black woman like this but just the occasional word or phrase that most people probably didn’t even know came from black peoples
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@RaideroRacc ive meet a handful but tbh the use of aave ive seen has been mostly sparse and largely a result of natural diffusion rather than done in an attempt to mock or mimic.
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@SJWheeljack It’s telling you that when someone has a certain identity you must “listen” to that person no matter how irrational they are.
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I do think it's interesting how a core -ism of social justice ethos is, "when an XYZ person tells you something is racist/sexist/xenophobic, you listen," but that rule seems to get mysteriously suspended when gay men call out homophobic depictions from our ostensible allies.
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@MOLENAIDE She’s wrong because it’s a gross, actually offensive caricature that is just trying to police language, the kind of petty bullshit people should have left behind in 2020.
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As a Black lesbian, I genuinely see nothing wrong with what she drew. Just cus she’s white doesn’t mean she’s wrong…?
ahmed@ahmedxjean
the comic artist is… indeed white
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@kork2thousand @junkyj64 @basmaTgirl I said that people were mocking the guy in the video because he was flamboyant, which isn’t exclusive to gay people, I doubt he was gay. Or if you’re talking about the cartoon, it was about mocking gay people so how else to talk about it?
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@colindr23 @junkyj64 @basmaTgirl so while trying to defend gay men u have just justified mocking a gay man for sounding gay lol yall are genuinely intellectually molested
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@zaklito @JBotato @JackieStansDan If black women were already talking like this, I don’t think white gay men doing it is going to change anything.
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@colindr23 @JBotato @JackieStansDan They're gay whites, but when they need to the white part comes first. It's the pattern of using black feminine language exclusively aggressively, furthering angry black women tropes. These same white folk will complain when straight cis folk use "gay terminology."
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Reading stuff like this lowkey made me realize it’s entirely possible that Annabelle just straight up does not like gay men.
moowsie@moowsiie
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@colindr23 @JackieStansDan There isn’t permission, you don’t do it because you aren’t of the culture.
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@kork2thousand @junkyj64 @basmaTgirl It’s not just his words, his delivery is very flamboyant. If someone were doing a full imitation of a black person that could be read as mockery but just using certain vocabulary is not, & I don’t think a limp wrist and catty gay behavior is imitation of black women
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@colindr23 @junkyj64 @basmaTgirl person responding to u is doing exactly what im talking about. the man is just speaking seriously in his local dialect but they are implying he was trying to be funny simply because said dialect is aave which they think exists only for entertainment
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@JBotato @JackieStansDan Who are “these same people?” How do you know what they do or don’t do? Who does one get permission from to use a word? Who can grant it or withhold it? None of this makes sense.
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@colindr23 @JackieStansDan White people using Ebonics is cultural appropriation, not appreciation. It’s more of a mockery than anything, because these same people almost never actually enter black spaces and listen to black voices.
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@Miller0gmail @minervas_muse This is not racial prejudice, trying to police the words people used based on their race is.
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@minervas_muse ??? I’m a bit confused. Woke 1.0? Being aware of black issues systemic and racial prejudice? Cuz like I don’t think this creator is wrong at all, it’s a critique on a very relevant issue me and other black queer people still face. It’s not “super woke” to address it
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This post reminded me of how annoying it is to try to talk to people still in Woke 1.0
No, dude, you can't gatekeep having opinions to certain identities, that just doesn't work.
moowsie@moowsiie
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@JBotato @JackieStansDan How is it disrespectful? We can only use words we grew up using?
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@colindr23 @JackieStansDan Because it’s seen as pretty disrespectful when a white person speaks with Ebonics, knowing damn well they didn’t grow up speaking like that, just because they’re gay. They’re still white, being gay doesn’t change that
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@riririmsi @JackieStansDan The casual use of bitch is arguably an issue I guess but it’s petty “micro-aggression nonsense to complain about whites using AAVE, besides being a homophobic caricature and calling this “the wide range of the ‘white gay vocabulary’”
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@JackieStansDan I didn't know who she was until today but what made you come to that conclusion? she's making valid criticism.
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@JackieStansDan What’s incorrect about comic, it’s just pointing out the usage of Ebonics by white gay people
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@AtlantisFell People who whine about shit like this should be called out for exacerbating racial tension. So what if people copy AAVE? This is not a legit issue. You make racism worse with petty BS. The only thing that’s arguably a problem here is casually saying bitch, even that’s low-key
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The quotes saying it's either bastardized AAVE or 4Chan speak?(white ultimatums) 😭 Also, this isn't just about gay white men, white queer people as whole are guilty of this.
moowsie@moowsiie
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@john_wilddog People who think slang terms are some kind of finite resource, which means the loons from Bluesky are back.
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everybody post your normal and nuanced reactions to this before people with serious mental issues start derailing the conversation to rant about how we need to kill the gays/blacks
moowsie@moowsiie
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@lowkeyenjoyer People who think culture is a finite resource. If someone takes a slang word from your culture, it means you no longer have it apparently.
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everyone in the qrts are either white and mad bc they feel attacked, only focusing on the lesbian reading “the color purple”, or keeps bringing up that the author of this comic is white, all of which take away from the main point of the comic
moowsie@moowsiie
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@kork2thousand @junkyj64 @basmaTgirl It’s a clip from like 15 years ago and about the same thing as people who laughed at the leave Britney alone video
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@junkyj64 @basmaTgirl oh im not replying to u its basmatgirl, but the og clip from that meme is taken from a newscast interviewing a neighborhood about a serial rapist who was breaking into ppl houses
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@agraybee My current theory on this is: Politically Correct was phase 1, Social Justice Warriors was phase 2, Woke was phase 3, phase 4 has yet to be named.
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@esotericchophoe @nikicaga You don’t really know what this is about. White gay men sometimes use catchphrases that most of them probably just heard from other gays but they started with black women. They don’t talk with a blaccent.
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@nikicaga Are you implying that white gay men are somehow more ridiculed for their forced blaccents than black people are for their actual accents? Bc if not I really don’t see why you felt the need to tweet this.
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People who are famously never mocked for their manner of speech, gay men
jedah/miss hollywood@swagtiger2006
@ftmspongebob52 @moowsiie lock tf in. white gays speak in a dialect and manner that black people are often mocked and ridiculed for. despite this white gay men typically aren't given the same treatment or regard as black people who actually created and established the style of speaking in the first place.
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