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@JodyChaseTN The food is not better and now I doubt everything she says

🔥🔥 JUST IN: Candace Owens is encouraging people to visit Russia, saying everything Americans have been told about the country is “a lie.” She says the streets are cleaner, the food is better, and after visiting, she came away believing it’s OUR society that’s in decline — not theirs. 👀

Read the Book of Mormon. Translated by Joseph Smith. A family descended from the Israelite Tribe of Joseph was warned of God to flee Jerusalem before it was captured by King Nebuchadnezzar and the Jews taken into captivity in 586 B.C. Guided by the Lord they built a boat and sailed to the American Hemisphere. Their civilization continued to observe the law of Moses. After His resurrection Christ visited them and taught them his full gospel as he did in Israel to his disciples there. Approximately 400 hundred years after that their civilization failed and a righteous man named Mormon who was in-trusted with the records of their civilization spanning 1000 years abridged their long history into a single volume called the Book of Mormon. Like the Bible it’s not a single book it’s a volume of books of prophets and teachers. It’s their teachings to their people who looked forward to Christ and were visited by him. The Bible is full of prophecy that God would scatter Israel. That they would be in all nations. This family is one such example. They lived the same laws as Old Testament people in Israel and after Christ they continued in His gospel. It’s therefore not in competition with the books of the Bible and is “Another” Testament of a people doing the same things as the Old Testament (Law of Moses) and New Testament (Gospel of Jesus Christ) peoples.

No, the Mormon Church is NOT Christian. Why Pastor…that is so mean and non inclusive? Christianity is built on The Holy Scriptures, which are 66 books, inspired, inerrant, and infallible. 👉🏻If you add “inspired testaments” because you believe The Bible is incomplete and partially corrupted you are NO LONGER Christian. Incorrect LDS doctrine and textual criticism: —God was a man. —Humans can become Gods. —Jesus and Satan are spirit brothers. —Baptism for the dead. —Temple endowments. —God’s throne is near Kolob. —Plural marriages eternally. —Native Americans are the true Israelites. —Holy Handshakes, Underwear, and “Anointing’s”. —Archeology Zarahemla, Bountiful (New World), Cumorah, Nephi, or the Land of Desolation remain unidentified on ANY modern maps 🌎. —Since 1830 The Book of Mormon has had 4,000+ revisions (mostly spelling and grammatical errors). IMO: 🤟🏼Mormons are loved by God. 🚨Mormons are more passionate about a lie than most Christians are about The Truth.

@Thatbrian After Christ died for mankind sins does everyone automatically go to Heaven? Just curious how grace works in your view.

Mormonism vs Christianity #3: Salvation and Human Destiny Mormons: A multi-level system climaxing with becoming a god (exaltation) and creating your own worlds. Mormons believe they will become devine. Christians: Salvation is rescue from sin and judgment by grace through faith in Christ, leading to eternal fellowship with God. Humans remain creatures. Believers never become gods in essence or create worlds.

They hate us because they ain’t us. According to Pew research our religious devotion in service attendance, in daily prayer in scripture reading is among the highest in the U.S.. That’s why we’re generally kind etc. We live what we believe at higher rates and you therefore see the fruits at higher rates. We’re bigger in number outside of Utah than in. Critics focus on things we don’t focus on. We’re dialed in on fundamental concepts such as loving God and loving our neighbor as our self.

Despite being polytheistic fertility-cultists whose galactic headquarters is near Planet Kolob and their messianic Promised Land just an hour north of Kansas City, Mormons get the good press of being a notoriously polite, kind, and neighborly people with a low-crime, mutually respectful community with deep American values. That could be the fruit of their religion. Or… It could be the natural result of what happens in a homogenous, high-trust community which banned black people from full admission until the Carter Administration. But we’re not allowed to talk about that.

@JCeacc @FatherChrisVor1 It’s a Star not a plant and idk

@coopermatthew76 @FatherChrisVor1 Where's the planet Kolob?

So much conversation happening right now about Mormonism and whether or not it is just kind of a weird form of Christianity. Before we ever get into the nitty-gritty of this question, we must first ask if Mormons are monotheists. They are not. Lord have mercy.

I’ve said that it was was said by an individual leader he was once a man though I don’t know everything he meant because assuming he was right if you care to think about it what are all the details? Meaning he could lived and died. Does that mean he sinned once too? Ive not contemplated the topic as you have. I’m not asked to or required to. Apparently at anti Mormon school you required to contemplate it so it seems I’m having more questions than you know how to answer. I’m sitting here thinking about it and it seems I don’t extrapolate the way you do but most importantly to my knowledge it’s not an official belief endorsed by the church using the process I described above so I personally see no need to feel any ownership of it. We’re talking about fairy dust as far as I’m concerned. In my view these men have holy offices but individually are just men and individually can make mistakes. If you feel someone needs to repent get a Time Machine and go tell them.

@coopermatthew76 @LizzieMarbach No, you made yourself clear. You're just wrong. You also didn't even address my point. You yourself admitted that Mormonism allows for the possibility for God to have sinned. And that in and of itself is a damnable heresy. You need to repent, or you're going to stand condemned.

Mormons teach that God used to be a man, just like us, that he earned his way to godhood, and that we too can become a god. This is not Christianity in any way. This is literally just the same lie the serpent told Eve in the garden. “…you will be like God…” Gen 3:5 churchofjesuschrist.org/study/manual/g…

I guess I didn’t make myself clear. Statements by individual leaders don’t constitute LDS beliefs and never did. Statements and or official beliefs that are presented to the Church by a unanimous First Presidency + Quorum of the 12 Apostles do constitute LDS beliefs. From my perspective your views about my beliefs are made of strawmen. They didn’t teach you that at Anti Mormon propaganda school but now you know. Goodnight.

@coopermatthew76 @LizzieMarbach You really don't seem to understand the problem here. If your religious system even allows for that possibility... it is a different Gospel. One of the very types of ones that Paul warned Christians to stay away from in Galatians.

System is right. There is a pattern or process for adopting what are official beliefs. Those topics and statements are outside of that system. It doesn’t matter if I say wow how cool or I say eww gross 💩. Including the possibility that God sinned. That’s not taught it’s never been an official belief as far as I know and it’s not required to be believe or even mentioned at church one time. It’s unofficial conjecture by leader a long time ago unofficial even then as far as the church is concerned. As far as anti proganda its Golden.

@coopermatthew76 @LizzieMarbach Well... yeah. Statements from your leaders 100+ years ago should be taken more seriously than the damage control mode we're seeing in modern day LDS. The fact that your system even allows for the possibility that God sinned... that is a damnable heresy, and it is Satanic.

You’ve taken a statement from a LDS leader 100+ years ago and built in a lot of assumptions to your statements about their statements. They’re not alive so we can’t ask them. I think we agree they said God was once not God. Assuming it’s true and I don’t personally know nor am I asked asked or required to know as condition of my membership…. What did he do between that time and becoming God I have no idea. Maybe he was sinnless like Jesus of Nazareth was. Maybe he sinned and was saved by grace which makes it as if he never sinned. Idk dude. You can’t disguises between propaganda in part because even LDS don’t believe things that have been uttered because there are times when leaders have spoken on topics using their own opinions which then makes into anti Mormon propaganda as if it’s official.

@coopermatthew76 @LizzieMarbach If he preexisted as a human, and had to earn his status as a God, then that means he sinned. To claim otherwise is to be completely logically incoherent. Also, the fact that you won't even dismiss the possibility outright is a problem in and of itself.

@jsrrayburn @LizzieMarbach I have no idea if God sinned. We believe he lived. We don’t know if he sinned. More extrapolation and conjecture on your part to build a straw man I don’t need to defend.

@coopermatthew76 @LizzieMarbach By the way, I love that you're only focusing on just one aspect of what I said. You didn't even try to dispute the other points at all, most telling, the one where I pointed out in Mormonism, that God sinned. That, in and of itself, is a damnable heresy.

@jsrrayburn @LizzieMarbach Anti Mormon propaganda teaches that and you don’t know how to distinguish the difference.

@coopermatthew76 @LizzieMarbach Mormons literally believe that all human souls (and even Jesus Christ and Satan) are literal offspring of God and his wife as a result of physical intimacy. There is no way around this. Mormonism teaches that God has sex. And that is blasphemy.

Correction. The Father has a Body and Spirit in the LDS belief. Heavenly Mother we believe is real but know nothing about her accept that she is real. Does God have sex with her? I have no idea and it’s none of my business and if you believed in her it would be none of yours. Married couples in this life have sex but the next life we just don’t know nor concern ourselves with that. But we do believe eternal marriage is possible. In the next life do we have sex organs, do we desire sex etc.? I have no idea. The preoccupation with the whole notion of sex in the next life is what LDS critics focus on not the LDS.

@LizzieMarbach This means that according to Mormonism, God sinned, that he had a beginning, that he is body and not spirit, and that he's currently married and has sexual intercourse with his heavenly wife. All of that is blasphemous.

I’m curious when Jesus was alive and shortly after when Paul and the Apostles were traveling around getting coverts and setting up congregations and sending epistles to various congregations they had established… how many denominations of Christianity were there? Since the answer is one I then wonder how many they would call “Christians” today if they were alive? Only if there were claims made for the Apostolic authority to lead the one Christian faith established by Jesus and left to Peter to be charge of. It seems today there are two making this claim. Roman Catholic and the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints. Thank you for your attention to this matter. -Latter Day Saint

Given the vast theological differences between Mormonism and every Christian denomination, the burden here should be on the Mormons to argue why any reasonable person should categorize Mormonism as simply another Christian denomination.

As to the second coming his statement was it would be no sooner than 1890 meaning not before 1890 and a critic said since it didn’t happen at or close to 1890 that means it was false. In various other statements he reiterated no ones knows the day or hour but apparently he felt like he knew when it was not. As to the Book of Mormon proof there are 12 official witnesses to plates some who excommunicated but never revoked their testimony about seeing the plates. As to the temple it what was predicted but was predicted with a condition if they sought with all their hearts. After being expelled from Missouri the Lord rebuked them for the sins in their hearts. I’d compare this to when the Israelites asked the Prophet Eli in the book of Samuel how to win a battle against the Philistines. He told them what to do including preforming sacrifices and carrying the ark of the covenant with them and they lost the battle and the ark of the covenant for time also for sin in their hearts. As for the US govt many LDS view the U.S. civil war as a fulfillment.

@BirdiesRants One of the saddest prophecies to come true. Received 1832. Fort Sumter, South Carolina attacked April 12, 1861. Prophecy fulfilled.

I don’t know what the LDS churches position is on the “Christianity“ of other people in other Christian denominations. In the LDS view, The LDS church is the one church on earth with God‘s authority, which came to Joseph Smith and Oliver Cowdery through Peter James and John who appeared to them and ordain them apostles and gave them priesthood which has been passed down to this day to current LDS Apostles. Personally, I feel like if a person believes in Jesus Christ and that he is their Savior than their Christian and the Church they attend is between them and God but I wouldn’t say their not Christian. I guess I’m more liberal in that sense. That’s just my view idk the official stance of the LDS church on this matter.

In strictly theological terms, Catholics do not consider Mormons (Latter-day Saints) as Christians for these reasons: Rejection of the Trinity: Catholicism affirms one God in three co-equal, co-eternal Persons (Nicene Creed). Mormonism teaches three separate gods (God the Father, Jesus, and Holy Ghost) united in purpose, not in substance (tritheism). Different understanding of God: Catholics hold God as an eternal, immaterial Spirit who has always been God. Mormonism teaches God the Father has a physical body, was once a mortal man who progressed to godhood, and that humans can become gods. Additional scriptures and revelation: Catholicism holds that public revelation ended with the apostles; Scripture and Sacred Tradition are sufficient. Mormonism adds the Book of Mormon, Doctrine and Covenants, and Pearl of Great Price as equal or superior scripture, plus ongoing prophetic revelation. Fundamentally different Christology: Catholic teaching is that Jesus is the eternal, uncreated second Person of the Trinity. Mormonism views Jesus as the literal spirit-brother of all humans, a created being who became divine (similar to other gods in their cosmology). Apostolic succession and authority: The Catholic Church traces its priesthood directly to the apostles through unbroken succession. Mormonism claims the original Church fell into total apostasy, requiring Joseph Smith’s restoration with new authority. These are only a few of the differences which places Mormonism outside historic, orthodox Christianity as defined by the early Church councils. Bottom line: LDS theology is a radical departure from the fundamental tenets of what one holds as a Christian.

The term celestial sex medoesn’t belong to the LDS church. So no LDS need defend it. Sex in celestial marriage after death is simply unknown. The term coined by critics seems to suggest the LDS are very preoccupied with sex but since we didn’t coin the term I think it’s the other way around.

@coopermatthew76 @JOHNJOHN1378 @GraveZeroUltra @JoknobWoozy @smashbaals Why be offended by celestial sex and not celestial marriage?

Mormonism teaches: -Jesus was a created being like us -We too can become gods -Good Mormon men get a planet full of virgins -Jesus and Lucifer are brothers -Jesus came back to America -Native Americans are the true Israelites Mormons aren’t Christians.

@vespa_the_goat @FatherChrisVor1 I think you think about Joseph Smith more than I do. As for your opinion on who I pray to I don’t care.

@coopermatthew76 @FatherChrisVor1 You're praying to a god that JS made up. Deut 13 relegates JS to the shameful position of a false prophet and warns against following such people.

I wake up and pray to Father in the name of Son who died for our sins. I ask for the Holy Spirit. That’s daily life for a Latter Day Saint. To love God and our neighbor as ourself is daily life. I can tell you I don’t know everything but I know God loves everyone and that’s real. If something Joseph Smith said offends you religious sensibilities then don’t be LDS. As for what he said I personally don’t know. And I personally don’t care. Maybe he knew something I don’t.

@coopermatthew76 @FatherChrisVor1 Joseph Smith taught that God the Father is a man who became divine through the process of exaltation. That is incompatible with the God the Father of the Bible. If you have the wrong Father, you necessarily have the wrong Son.

@RaypEatNanaya @ObiWanCoby10 @smashbaals So be it.

@coopermatthew76 @ObiWanCoby10 @smashbaals I never really knew how many claims were true in that cartoon but reading this debunking has made me completely certain in its veracity. So thanks.