Gary Ede

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Gary Ede

Gary Ede

@crusade67

Throwback to former era. LDS. Life is like a sting operation, an opportunity to prove who and what we are. Please No crypto. $ schemes or cleavage.

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Gary Ede@crusade67·
@ThyPaddyDaddy There is no such scripture without twisting its meaning. Rather there is ample evidence the Apostasy was already underway during the Apostles limited lifetimes.
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EnlightenedPaddy
EnlightenedPaddy@ThyPaddyDaddy·
@crusade67 Christ promised to be with them and never leave them as orphans and to guide them into all truth. So you’re calling Jesus a liar?
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Gary Ede
Gary Ede@crusade67·
@LdstoCatholic @RykerJackson97 81 year old 63 year convert here. My experience is that people who leave never developed the sort of personal relationship with the Savior that LDS doctrines and ordinances facilitate. And my conversion and my innumerable experiences exercising the priesthood are undeniable.
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Gary Ede@crusade67·
@ThyPaddyDaddy Christ didn't leave his Church, the people did...essentially the same as every previous dispensation. However, ours is the Dispensation of the Fulness of Times. We have challenges ahead but this one is for keeps.
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EnlightenedPaddy
EnlightenedPaddy@ThyPaddyDaddy·
@crusade67 So Jesus lied when he said he wouldn’t leave the Church as orphans? Or did the Holy Spirit just fail?
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Gary Ede
Gary Ede@crusade67·
@DaBearsGoBlue13 @MikeWingerii The fact that sectarian Christian apologists cling so tightly to the mystical illogical creeds is evidence of the power of the centuries of programming. The narrative is way past time and need of being challenged. We are trying to help you folks out.
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Mike Winger
Mike Winger@MikeWingerii·
Mormons: We’re Christian Me: No. You’re not. Mormons: We are highly offended by that! How dare you say we aren’t Christian when we believe in Jesus. Me: You use the name Jesus but reject core Christian beliefs about Jesus. You reject core Christian beliefs about a bunch of essential things. You tend to use the same vocabulary as us but with different definitions. Mormons: Of course we reject your core beliefs. They are an abomination! This is why Joseph Smith said God told him did all your creeds are in abomination and that he couldn’t join any Christian group in the United States. It’s because you guys don’t know the truth about God and Joseph Smith had to restore the true gospel, fix the teachings you have from your corrupt Bible, and give us a host of new Scriptures. Me: See, this is why I say you aren’t Christians. It’s not personal. It’s the foundation of Mormonism that you reject core Christian teachings about Jesus, salvation, God, the Bible, exaltation, and more. Joseph Smith made this clear. Brigham young said all Christians were apostates and it was only more recently you guys were told by your leaders to co-opt the name Christian. But it’s like a man trying to say he’s a woman. No, he’s not. That’s silly. He can be offended but it’s not rational and it’s actually harmful to pretend he’s a woman just to appease him. Mormons: Mike, we believe in the Bible, Jesus, God the Father, salvation by faith, and all the stuff you believe. We just have a few more things you don’t know about yet. We have your beliefs and extra, because we are like complete Christians. Me: You believe the Bible is corrupt in whatever ways it may challenge your theology. You believe Jesus wasn’t always God and that he’s the brother of Satan. You believe God wasn’t always God and that he became a God in the same way that you can become a God if you are considered worthy of it when you die. You believe in grace plus works which invalidates grace (Romans 11:6) and triggers Galatians 1’s anathema, saying that “we are saved by grace after all that we can DO.” You may not have realized it but your religion teaches you the same words as Christians but defines them in ways that actually reject our core beliefs. Mormons: You don’t understand us. We believe what we believe and it’s Christian. Me: I know some more modern Mormons will say they actually don’t hold to some of those things I mentioned but I have to treat Mormonism based on its Scriptures, apostles, and prophets, not its online apologists. Based on those things, it’s not Christian. Mormon (version 1): Your ignorance and attitude are offensive and harmful. We are Christians. Mormon (version 2): We are the true Christians and you are apostate. You and most Christians throughout history were not real Christians. Joseph Smith restored true Christianity after it fell away shortly after Jesus rose. Me: Jesus, the real Jesus, paid the full price for your sins on the cross. You can be saved and forgiven and live eternally with God, the one and only God, by trusting in Christ’s works and not your own. Joseph was a modern false prophet. Run from him to Jesus.
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LEGO Joseph Smith
LEGO Joseph Smith@Mormonger·
Are you under the impression that "Christian" and "Nicene Protestant" are synonyms? 😂 You say: "Mormons reject traditional Christianity." Yes. Mormons say: "Traditional Christianity became corrupted and needed restoration." That is literally the debate. Repeating "but you reject traditional Christianity!" is like a Catholic telling a Protestant, "Aha! You reject Catholicism!" No kidding. That's why the disagreement exists 😂 Your entire argument boils down to assuming your conclusion before the discussion even starts. As for your "different Jesus" argument... Catholics, Calvinists, Orthodox, Lutherans, Baptists, and Pentecostals all disagree about who Jesus is, what salvation means, how grace works, what authority is, what the Church is, and how God relates to humanity. Yet somehow they're all Christians. But when Mormons disagree, suddenly you've discovered a completely different Jesus? You complain that Mormons use Christian words differently. Meanwhile Protestants, Catholics, and Orthodox have been arguing for centuries over what grace, faith, justification, salvation, church, authority, sacrament, and even worship mean. Apparently theological vocabulary only becomes a problem when Mormons show up? You must know you're not defending a biblical definition of Christianity. You're defending a sectarian definition of Christianity and then pretending it's the only possible one. The New Testament says Christians are followers of Christ. You say Christians are people who accept a specific set of post-biblical metaphysical conclusions developed centuries later. You must be aware of what you're doing here. You can argue that LDS theology is false. You can argue Joseph Smith was a false prophet. You can argue the Great Apostasy never happened. What you can't do is settle the debate by stamping your foot and declaring: "Real Christians agree with me." Ridiculous.
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Kalen@KalenWilliams_·
The reason I believe Joseph Smith was a Prophet, is the same reason you believe Paul was: You read the scripture he produced, and that scripture both speaks to your soul and causes a change of heart and a desire to change/reject sin. The Book of Mormon produces good fruit.
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Jordan Sorensen
Jordan Sorensen@JordanSorensen9·
@Apologetics941 In your religion there is God the Father, His Son Jesus Christ and the Holy Ghost. So three Gods.
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cmg1973@Apologetics941·
Oh the silliness of the Mormons. Alma 11: 28-31 28 Now Zeezrom said: Is there more than one God? 29 And he answered, No. 30 Now Zeezrom said unto him again: How knowest thou these things? 31 And he said: An angel hath made them known unto me. That's pretty hardcore an angel told him that there was only one God. That's weird because that's not what the book of Abraham says.
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Gary Ede
Gary Ede@crusade67·
@LdstoCatholic @RykerJackson97 It was in Gethsemane when the weight of all the sins of the world settled upon him. This was so extreme and excruciating that he asked the apostles to assist him and an angel had to be dispatched to strengthen him. So take it easy on your sacrilege.
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LDStoCatholic@LdstoCatholic·
This is the current LDS framing, yes, and I agree it is the stronger and more defensible version. The issue is historical and that the previous generations didn’t focus on the cross as much as the current one does, but rather far too much on Gethsemane. That’s shifting hard and for good reason. Earlier LDS leaders often placed the actual sin bearing and penalty paying language in Gethsemane, so the current statement needs that context for non LDS folks to understand the full picture. Joseph Fielding Smith said many people think the cross was Christ’s great suffering, then said, “That was not when he was on the cross; that was in the garden.” Ezra Taft Benson said, “It was in Gethsemane that Jesus took on Himself the sins of the world.” Bruce R. McConkie said Gethsemane was where Christ “took upon himself the sins of all men” and that His suffering there “satisfied the demands of justice.” M. Russell Ballard said that in Gethsemane the Savior “took upon Himself the sins of the world” and “paid the ultimate penalty for sin.” I am not saying the current LDS church denies Calvary. They do not deny it and you will see many members wearing a cross necklace which was culturally a no no since the early 1900’s. Good progress. The current Gospel Topic on the Cross clearly includes Gethsemane, the Crucifixion, and the Resurrection. I am saying the older LDS emphasis was not just the historic Christian Passion. It often located the decisive sin bearing language in Gethsemane, while the cross was treated mainly as His death and physical suffering. That is why this current framing reads like a correction or at least a clarification IMO.
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Eric Daugherty
Eric Daugherty@EricLDaugh·
🚨 HOLY SMOKES. Scott Presler just went SAVE AMERICA PRIMARY MODE on Leader John Thune, because citizenship and voter ID have NOT been passed “If the SAVE America Act does not go into effect by November 2026, then I promise — peacefully — you will have a Texas sized primary in 2028.” “You are the Senate Majority Leader. Why are you not constantly pushing & working with your 52 other colleagues to ensure the passage of the SAVE America Act?” “I’m returning to South Dakota at the end of the month to hire field staff. If you won’t give us what we elected you to do, then what’s the point of having a Senate majority?” “Remember what happened in Louisiana & Texas. Respectfully.” 🔥🔥 @ScottPresler plays no games! Fulfill the mandate or the voters will get fed up!
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Gary Ede
Gary Ede@crusade67·
@Apologetics941 Wonder how many times we need to explain this? Don't think anti's are interested in answers. Israel's God was always one God versus the idolatrous gods of their neighbors. From Genesis to Revelation Israel's God is comprised of two individuals and a being confined to Spirit.
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Gary Ede@crusade67·
@mqulis @PetGorilla I don't take anything for granted. But prophets are also humans. The Lord works with what he's got. Brigham had special talents that rallied the Church and brought them across the plains and built a civilization in a place no-one wanted. I love Brigham, warts and all.
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Gary Ede@crusade67·
@mksabino @ryanswalters73 I love the Tanners. I served my mission in Ireland with one of them. We did some double dating afterwards. He lived in his grandfather's house, N Elden Tanner, in the SL Avenues. Unlike some others of that name, Elden was a spiritual giant.
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Mariana Sabiano
Mariana Sabiano@mksabino·
@ryanswalters73 I love the Tanners and all the hard work they put into investigating and researching LDS church history and beyond. I'm currently reading their book "Mormonism, Magic and Masonry". Fascinating stuff!
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Ryan S. Walters
Ryan S. Walters@ryanswalters73·
Sandra Tanner, great-great granddaughter of Brigham Young, left the Mormon church and has worked for years exposing the fraud, along with her husband, Jerald. "The problem with the Book of Mormon is much more complex. The Bible was translated from both Hebrew and Greek manuscripts, and the Book of Mormon was supposed to have been translated from “reformed Egyptian.” That the words from the “reformed Egyptian” language would come out so close to those translated from the Hebrew and Greek language seemed almost impossible to explain. This problem and many others of a similar nature led us into a very exhaustive study of the Book of Mormon. When we began our research, we sincerely wanted to prove it true and to silence the critics." Great point!!
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The Primary Pianist
The Primary Pianist@Primary_Pianist·
One criticism says: “Jesus said ‘It is finished’ on the cross, therefore He could not have visited people in the Americas.” But these are unrelated claims. “It is finished” refers to the completion of His atoning sacrifice. The Book of Mormon never argues otherwise. Instead, it points to John 10:16: “Other sheep I have, which are not of this fold.” The question is simple: Who were those other sheep? Many Christians offer various interpretations. Latter-day Saints believe 3 Nephi provides the answer. You don’t have to agree with that conclusion. But dismissing it by quoting “It is finished” doesn’t address the actual claim being made. The debate is about the identity of the other sheep, not whether Christ completed His atonement.
Jason Trimble@JasontheLayman

You know that I have. Here is my condensed summary of the Book of Mormon followed by a brief commentary: (The account of the Jaredites.) According to the Book of Mormon, somewhere around 2500 B.C., God selected the brother of Jared and set his family apart by blessing their seed beyond measure. He instructed them to build eight vessels that are described, in so many words, as floating submarines. He then touched eight stones to give them illuminating power so they would not travel in darkness. (He revealed himself as Jesus Christ at this point, as well, and warned them that they must serve only Him or they would perish off the Promised Land He was giving them.) They loaded up these vessels with their families, their flocks, and seeds of every kind, no mention of fresh water, but they did prepare food for their year long journey. All eight of these vessels landed at the same spot, somewhere in the Americas, and they cultivated the ground and began worshiping and living for Jesus. Many generations pass by, but these people did not get along, and there was a great war that involved millions of deaths, which completely wiped out their whole civilization. Fortunately, they transcribed their account onto some golden plates and buried them in the earth to preserve this knowledge for future generations. (The account of Lehi and his sons.) According to the Book of Mormon, during the first year of king Zedekiah's reign, Lehi prophesied that the Babylonians were coming to destroy Jerusalem unless the people repented and turned back to God. He was rejected by his people, so he took his family and moved out into the wilderness. They didn’t know what tribe of Israel they were from, so Lehi sent his sons to recover that information from Laban, apparently the historian in Jerusalem. When Laban refuses to give his sons what they are looking for, Nephi feels led by the Spirit of God to kill Laban and take matters into his own hands. He steals Laban’s sword, clothes, and engraved plates of brass which contain the five books of Moses, the history of the Jews, and the writings of the prophets. When Lehi inspected the plates, he discovered that he is a descendant of Joseph. After many years of sojourning in the wilderness, Nephi is instructed to build a ship and take his friends and family to another Promised Land God has prepared for these special Israelites. He is given a magic compass to navigate the uncharted waters and eventually they land in the Americas and they begin to possess the land. There is discord in the family of Lehi, and two tribes emerge from the feuds, the Nephites, who were white and delightsome, and the Lamanites, who inherit a curse from God that darkens their skin, because of all their iniquities. Each of these tribes build their own cities as they continue to multiply and prosper. They construct temples, synagogues, and towers of defense. They are constantly at war with each other, but somehow they continue to grow large enough to inhabit all of the land. Prophets are raised up, and unlike the prophets of the Holy Bible, these prophets did not prophesy in part, they had full revelations and nothing was concealed from them. Each one proclaims that a Messiah is coming, he will be born of the virgin Mary, and that his name will be Jesus. They mention John the Baptist and the twelve disciples Christ will appoint. They actually quote much of the New Testament teachings including some of the Book of Revelation prophecies. Generations pass by, but the Nephites document the history of these events by transcribing everything onto metal plates. They find a hill where a great battle took place and the remains of millions are scattered about. This is where they find the historical golden plates of the Jaredites, and they combine these records with their own plates. Many battles are described between these two tribes throughout this book and the rise and fall of each tribe several times. The prophets continually proclaim that they need to repent and be baptized in the name of Jesus long before Christ even shows up on earth. Not many believe their words until there are three days of darkness signifying the death of Jesus. During this time there is great judgment cast upon the Americas and whole cities are swallowed up in the sand, flooded by great waters, fire sent from heaven destroying others, and unrelenting whirlwinds that kill hundreds of thousands of people. Then in the midst of this darkness, the voice of God is heard. He proclaims that he has destroyed the wicked and preserved the righteous, and he is gathering them all together for a great revival. Jesus shows up and gives them the Sermon on the Mount, (completely plagiarized from the Gospel of Matthew) then He heals them, and prays for them, prayers that were apparently too wonderful to document. He commissions twelve more apostles and sends them out to remind the people of everything He has taught them. He grants that three of these apostles would be given new incorruptible bodies so they can live hundreds of years winning souls to Christ, and then He abruptly leaves after three days of visitation. The Lamanites and Nephites have many generations of peace until it all fades away and they go back to their old fighting ways. Tragically, the Lamanites eventually wiped out all of the Nephites, and the brass and golden plates that were passed down over the years were hidden by Moroni in 421 A.D. So, according to this book, the native Americans we know as Indians were descendants of Israelites. (The account of Joseph Smith.) Joseph Smith was a young treasure hunter who was first visited by the angel Moroni as he descended from heaven in 1823. Moroni eventually led young Joseph to the whereabouts of these engraved plates and told him to interpret the writings into English and to build the true church of Jesus Christ. Joseph determined that the metal plates were written in reformed Egyptian, and by the power of God, and the use of a seer stone, this modern day prophet translated the writings successfully within a relatively short period of time. (By looking into his hat and gazing upon the illuminated words that would appear on his magic rock.) Then Moroni returned and took the plates from Joseph, thus taking away any physical proof of these things. Now my commentary: Outside of what is clearly plagiarized from the Holy Bible, these are all fictional accounts. Even Joseph Smith's biography is a revised version of historical events. I had studied the Bible for a long time before I ever encountered the Book of Mormon. So, when I first opened up this book, I saw on the very first page that this was a counterfeit. I love reading about the reigns of the kings of Israel and Judah, so seeing the time stamp of the first year of the reign of Zedekiah grabbed my attention. The two books give different accounts into what was taking place at that precise moment in time and it's not a minor inconsistency. Lehi is telling the residents of Jerusalem that the Babylonians will come and destroy Jerusalem, unless God's people repent. He has riches and moves freely in and out of this make believe version of an apparently unwalled city without gates. There are very few details of the surrounding area, as well, proving the author had no idea how to describe a place he never visited before. God's word paints a very different and detailed picture, though. This is already occupied territory. Babylon has infiltrated Jerusalem and Nebuchadnezzar captured the royal family and is holding them for ransom. He sets up Zedekiah as king and orders him to pay tribute. The temple has been ransacked and very little of anything valuable remains. Jeremiah is telling the people to submit to their new overlords and they will survive this ordeal. Only the poor of the land remain. And this is only the beginning. Nephi, Lehi's son, is transcribing everything onto metal plates and into reformed Egyptian, which was not a custom of the Jews. It is also impossible for a Hebrew family in that generation not to know what tribe they belonged to, because they lived in the region that was prescribed by lots in Joshua's day. What's he doing in Jerusalem? He says his family has always lived there, but he finds out he's a descendant of Joseph, so he should have been in the northern tribes, far away from this region. And it came to pass is being used redundantly, nearly every paragraph. This is poorly written compared to the actual Word of God, it's laughable even. Names in the Holy Bible actually mean something, but guess what the Book of Mormon lacks? You guessed it, any resemblance of this well established trait in Scripture. In fact, Joseph Smith sometimes even used relatively modern language and names in this supposedly ancient text, leaving many red flags scattered throughout this obviously fraudulent work of fiction. Laban has the history of the Jews transcribed onto metal plates, not something the Israelites ever did, they wrote everything on scrolls made with papyrus and animal hides. Nephi was commanded to kill this treasurer and to steal from him. Why? Because Laban wasn't keeping the Lord's commands. (Apparently killing and stealing is perfectly fine, though.) Very confusing and hypocritical writings. With the books of Moses and the historical records in hand, Lehi discovers his family descended from the tribe of Joseph. (The descendants of Joseph were not called that in the Scriptures, they were known as Ephraim and Manasseh.) The tribe of Joseph is mentioned countless times, which contradicts how this patriarchal family was spoken of in the Holy Bible. This book claims Jesus came to the Americas after His resurrection, but the Lord said it is finished on the cross. He accomplished what He set out to do in the Holy Bible. He purged our sins, ascended into Heaven, and sat down on the right hand of the Majesty on high. Unlike the claims in this fairy tale, Jesus never physically came to the Americas after that. (When He does actually return, it will be for the whole world to see, as the Holy Bible clearly states.) The Book of Mormon is fantasy that contradicts Holy writ. I would also like to point out that Jesus told His disciples they have seen the Father in Him and through His works, but Joseph Smith said he had an encounter with both the Father and the Son and they revealed themselves with separate bodies. I can't even imagine the audacity of such a foolish claim. Again, the Book of Mormon contradicts His inspired word. Even the language used in the supposedly ancient text is not consistent with Old Testament writings. Words like doctrines, synagogue, the cross, countries, apostles, and even Bible were not old world terms. Even the names Jesus or Christ were not used back in the law and prophets. Also, the fact that it is translated to resemble a poorly composed version of Elizabethan, should give the reader a clue that something isn't right. Also, one of the most glaring issues is that it purports to be written by many different authors, but the evidence of that is non-existent, because it's the same dry personality and writing style throughout. It is more than obvious only one person dictated this. The prophesies spoken of in the BoM make the prophets in the Holy Bible seem insignificant. Actual prophets in the Holy Bible only saw visions in part, and the results were left to interpretation and putting the pieces of the puzzle together through many different prophets, but it is not so in the BoM, for these prophets have clear and detailed visions. They also share Christ's specific New Testament teachings, making it sound like when Jesus shows up hundreds of years later, He's just repeating what was said by these imaginary prophets. Things written like, "wars and rumors of wars" should alert the reader that something is amiss. For example, "There is none other name given under heaven save it be this Jesus Christ, of which I have spoken, whereby man can be saved." -2 Nephi 25:20. So, hundreds of years before Saint Peter ever uttered these specific words, the author wants us to believe an imaginary prophet spoke them. It's very easy to sound prophetic when you are writing a fictional account of the past with a copy of the New Testament handy. Many of these stories are all rehashed versions of mangled biblical stories, sometimes with different names, sometimes with different locations, but all poorly told and obviously not inspired by the Holy Spirit. Also, this book claims the Holy Bible has been corrupted and that precious things had been removed. This was Joseph Smith's way of crowning himself as the prophet of the restoration. He added verses that pointed to himself in his own Bible translation. He also concludes that Satan has great power over people who believe only the Bible, confirming that this whole Book of Mormon is heretical nonsense. Some of the writings actually address theology from the nineteenth century, not of ancient times, and Mormons overlook those red flags, too. For example, nobody was asking questions about purgatory twenty-five hundred years ago. One of the lowest points in this fictional account is when Nephi calms the storms at sea way before Jesus ever did. Stories like this cheapen what the Son of God actually did when He graciously walked among His creation. He went about doing good, and Joseph Smith ruins all of it by trying to recreate history in this imaginary land, with pretend people, and a fairy tale ending. None of it happened. Finally, can you even name a legitimate war that has broken out in the history of the earth that was so devastating that all parties involved were eliminated? So much so, that there was also no record of such civilizations remaining or any eye witnesses? Well, it may not have ever happened in reality, but it happens in the Book of Mormon! What are the odds? It was obviously all made up in the mind of a known conman. Unlike the fictional accounts given in the BoM, the Bible keeps accurate historical records of nations that actually existed, and they still exist to this day. The empirical evidence is overwhelming, but the BoM hasn't one ounce of such historical proof. Elevating the nonsense of the Book of Mormon to be equal with the divine wisdom and infallible Truth written of in the Holy Bible is beyond comprehension, unless one has been entirely brainwashed. There aren't even any examples of perfect love in the BoM, because God's obviously not in it. These are just some of my thoughts, but the boldness of Joseph Smith's claims exceed that of any other false teachings that have ever been written. Pure blasphemy. He was unabashedly evil. He was a charlatan and an adulterer. Now, imagine the foolishness of following such a deceiver, even after being shown these heresies that contradict what is written in the Holy Bible. Yet, there are millions of folks who have put their trust, hope, and faith in this blind leader who has led each and every one of his blind followers all into the ditch of destruction. A life of self righteousness that is no different than any other false religion on earth. Mormons live completely bereft from the love that comes from being born again by the Spirit of Truth. They do things in their own strength, and are no different than any Muslim, Hindu, or counterfeit Christian. I firmly believe that anyone that has Jesus as the foundation of their faith and believes the Holy Bible is a brother or sister in Christ. I don’t like to get into petty doctrinal arguments that cause separation, but I do know the difference between a cult and the church. I am convinced that this particular movement is not of God. You don’t need the historical proof that none of these events actually took place, but we have that. There are no remains of these civilized tribes anywhere in the Americas, and neither is there any corroborating literary evidence of any of this transpiring outside of Joseph Smith’s book. You don’t need the scientific proof that none of this was true, but DNA does actually prove that Native Americans have absolutely no link to the Hebrew nation. All you need to do is read the book for yourselves and see the deception first hand. It is more than obvious that Joseph Smith desired that others would follow him instead of Jesus, because that is essentially what the Book of Mormon does, it leads people away from the cross. I believe the whole foundation of Mormon faith is based upon a lie and many in this nation have been deceived over the years, but I think it is high time that the truth was once again proclaimed. Jesus is the only way to the Father, and His word is enough. We don’t need a modern day prophet teaching us new doctrines that contradict the Holy Bible; we have been given the Holy Spirit, who freely gives every believer discernment. He is the greatest teacher we could ever have. Now, I realize I tend to ruffle some feathers by sharing these things, but please understand where my heart is. I was deceived as a child, as well. I believed I was a good person my whole life, until my wife had left and I investigated for myself what was actually written in the Holy Bible. I have been through it a great number of times from cover to cover, and there is nothing like it on earth. My study led me to being born again in a prayer meeting. I love the Lord and delight in His word. And I believe as far as the heavens are from the earth, so is the gap between the Holy Bible and the Book of Mormon. So, please share this with as many people as you know. I happen to believe Mormons are not far from the Kingdom, but they need to denounce Joseph Smith and return to the Father's house before it's too late. Pray for the deceived, pray for the lost, and please keep praying for our nation. The hour is late and the day is well spent, Jesus is returning for His bride. I pray the church will be prepared. Lord bless.

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Tironianae 🍊🍊 Z. - Ultra Verbum Vincet
🚨 BREAKING: Sen. John Kennedy says the SAVE America Act is heading to the Senate floor and he expects it to pass and land on President Trump’s desk. Kennedy admitted there are still a few “free-range chickens” on the Republican side who need to be rounded up, but he believes the votes will ultimately be there. He’s even pushing the idea of using reconciliation to bypass the usual Senate gridlock and get it done with a 50+1 vote if necessary. His message is simple. The Senate can’t keep dragging its feet. Whether through reconciliation or a talking filibuster, find the path and pass the SAVE America Act. 🇺🇸
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Ryan S. Walters
Ryan S. Walters@ryanswalters73·
Many Mormons had a meltdown over my post about Fawn Brodie’s book on Joseph Smith. Ok, well, perhaps they can try this one!
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JoshN@joshnaa2gez·
One of the most common arguments against Joseph Smith is Galatians 1:8: “Though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you…” But notice what this argument assumes: that a heavenly messenger automatically proves someone is a false prophet. If that’s the test, Paul starts looking surprisingly similar to Joseph Smith: • Received revelation after Christ’s earthly ministry was over. • Claimed authority based on a divine appearance, not succession from existing leaders. • Taught things many believers initially viewed as radical innovations. • Was accused of preaching a different gospel. • Defended himself by saying his message came through revelation. • Had opponents who believed he was leading people away from the true faith. • Ultimately asked people to judge his claims by whether God had actually spoken. The issue in Galatians isn’t that angels can’t appear. The issue is whether the message is true. Otherwise, Paul’s own ministry would have looked suspiciously like the kind of thing many Christians reject in Joseph Smith. And before you say, “Paul wasn’t preaching a different gospel”… tell that to his contemporaries, who thought his teaching on salvation through grace, gentile ministry, and undoing the law of circumcision, were radical changes. None of that was taught directly by Jesus in mortality. But you see, the core of Christ’s message remained the same with Paul, as it did with Joseph Smith. But Christ had more to reveal, posthumously, through his anointed. He is not silent just because he died. He lives again. And he speaks.
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Gary Ede
Gary Ede@crusade67·
@ryanswalters73 You are overlooking a plethora of end time scriptuures and details. I have an Endtime Events file that is 122 pages (including commentary) gluing together almost 100 relevant scriptures approximately half from the Bible.
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Ryan S. Walters
Ryan S. Walters@ryanswalters73·
Consider: The Old Testament is full of prophecies about the coming Messiah, all of which were fulfilled by Jesus of Nazareth. The OT tells of a new covenant – Jeremiah 31. People read it even today knowing there is something coming in the NewTestament. And they certainly understood that at the time.   Yet in the New Testament, there is NOTHING, NOT ONE SINGLE WORD about anyone else coming after Jesus Christ. Jesus proclaimed “It is finished” while on the Cross. He had atoned for man’s sins. Nothing more was needed. His Apostles, whom He chose, and other Disciples began spreading the Good News about Jesus Christ and His Gospel. They NEVER EVER spoke of another. Not Mohammed or Joseph Smith or anyone else.   But in the New Testament we are warned many times about following false prophets and false christs who promote false gospels. The Apostle Paul himself, chosen to carry the true message to the Gentiles, said in Galatians 1:6-9: “I am amazed that you are so quickly deserting Him who called you by the grace of Christ, for a different gospel; which is really not another; only there are some who are disturbing you and want to distort the gospel of Christ. But even if we, or an angel from heaven, should preach to you a gospel contrary to what we have preached to you, he is to be accursed! As we have said before, so I say again now, if any man is preaching to you a gospel contrary to what you received, he is to be accursed!”   Jesus Christ is the Alpha and Omega, the First and the Last. He was the Lamb of God. He is the door through which everyone must pass in order to see God. He is the Way, the Truth, and the Life, and no one comes to the Father but by Him. No one else is needed. No prophet, no new scriptures. In fact, the Bible tells us the end of the story. A sequel is unnecessary. There is nothing left but to continue in our good works and to await His return. Put your faith and trust in the Lord Jesus Christ and His Holy Word!
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🚨 HOLY CRAP: President Trump just laid out the plan to John Thune and it is clear. End the filibuster. Take the vote. Get everything DONE. Voter ID. Citizenship verification. No mass mail in ballots. No delays. No excuses. Push it through.
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