Plop Dalop

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Plop Dalop

Plop Dalop

@dalop_plop

Katılım Eylül 2025
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Blindflip
Blindflip@LaCivilian·
@Xeon4f145d96s1 See, I live in a state with draconic med mal limits and you all still act this way. Typically aren't smart enough to understand med mal anyways, just got scared of lawyers in med school and know it's a convenient excuse for dummies when you need to justify the attitude.
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Plop Dalop
Plop Dalop@dalop_plop·
@TomHCalver No sensible use cases? Tell that to the government that had every medical students £80-110k student debt tagged to RPI + 3% for inflation. Come on
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Tom Calver
Tom Calver@TomHCalver·
Second: the union still persists in using the retail prices index. Using RPI: pay has fallen 21%. Using CPI: pay has fallen 6%. Using CPIH: pay has fallen 4%. There are no sensible use cases for RPI. It overstates inflation. 3/6
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Tom Calver
Tom Calver@TomHCalver·
Are resident doctors still underpaid? The BMA’s case for ongoing industrial action is undermined by how the union uses data. 1/6
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Devan Sinha
Devan Sinha@DevanSinha·
@TomHCalver It's not "overtime". It's contractually compulsory out of hours work - nights & weekends. The base pay only looks better better because of Jeremy Hunt's imposed 2016 contract changes where out of hours pay was cut and subsumed into the base salary.
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Plop Dalop
Plop Dalop@dalop_plop·
@TomHCalver They still do similar amounts of overtime, the payment structure got forceably changed in 2016 by hunt as you know. This is quite disingenuous
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Tom Calver
Tom Calver@TomHCalver·
First: resident doctors want “pay restoration” to 2008 levels. Except they’ve already achieved it: their base pay is the highest it’s ever been. They are only down at all when we consider that they used to do vast amounts of very generous overtime on the 2002-16 contract 2/6
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Plop Dalop
Plop Dalop@dalop_plop·
@Xeon4f145d96s1 Hallelujah Rotate every PA, ACP, Physio, matron through as many departments and hospitals as us doctors. See how they fare. I guarantee there would be a huge improvement in 1) induction culture 2) reimbursements for travel
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platinumpizza™
platinumpizza™@Xeon4f145d96s1·
Why do we confuse institutional memory for clinical competence?
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Plop Dalop
Plop Dalop@dalop_plop·
@parthaskar @mancunianmedic @FHawksworth All the youngish consultants in my department are strong yes votes. Over 45, more mixed. A couple of very surprising ‘yes’ votes from the 60+ year old crowd 😂
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Devan Sinha
Devan Sinha@DevanSinha·
@mancunianmedic @FHawksworth We shouldn't just accept doctors = "public sector" so pay relatively shit. I'm still early yrs consultant; already earn more outside standard NHS salary (FT 10PA/4day). Looking at longterm trajectory of NHS decrepitude and UK economic stagnation seriously looking at emigration.
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Plop Dalop
Plop Dalop@dalop_plop·
@cjsnowdon I’m with you on this one at least Chris! I think you’ll find many young doctors are. I’m not sure we’d necessarily agree on what the optimal alternative looks like though ;)
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Robert Berry, DO
Robert Berry, DO@txsportsdoc·
Perspective matters. What is getting a second chance at life worth? The Cardiovascular Surgeon who made this happen was the lowest paid in the whole process. Probably 4-6 hours of surgery and maybe was paid a few thousand dollars. That CT surgeon trained for at least 15 yrs to be able to do this. The system will pay this same CT surgeon more, to perform varicose vein procedures in their office. In fact, performing bypass surgery won’t pay a CT surgeon enough to maintain a private practice. The hospital on the other hand,was likely paid several hundred thousand. Thanks for sharing your story Ed. Hope your next chapter in life is even better☺️👊
Edward Bukstel@ebukstel

@BKRBusinessMin @TomVargheseJr Personally I think specialists deserve a raise. ❤️

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Robert Colvile
Robert Colvile@rcolvile·
@lewisthughes @TomHCalver And those figures mysteriously start just after the multiple years of massive above-inflation pay rises for no reason at all...
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Plop Dalop
Plop Dalop@dalop_plop·
@cjsnowdon May have a point for residents, though it’s hard to argue when we’ve extended their training so long. Consultants… definitely not.
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Plop Dalop
Plop Dalop@dalop_plop·
@theveindoc How many times did we have to hear about the note left in the Bank of England ;)
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James Steen
James Steen@BMA_James_Steen·
“One of the NHS’s real advantages compared with its peers is that it is really good at keeping doctors’ pay relatively low, which means it can spend more money on drugs and treatment” And there you have it; Doctors are expected to subsidise the NHS through suppressed pay.
Financial Times@FT

The NHS isn’t getting better ft.trib.al/5kslNbQ | opinion

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Plop Dalop
Plop Dalop@dalop_plop·
@Dr_JSA Yep. -> state will compress wages, and does in pvt sector through minimum wage laws and weird tax cliffs. -> only way out seem to be leave or IA for public sector.
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Jason
Jason@Dr_JSA·
The other thing to point out, is that industrial action works. The resident doctors in England started their dispute in 2022. Since then (compared to 2010 and using CPI) they've recovered more of their losses and overtaken nursing and midwives who have chosen not to strike.
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Jason
Jason@Dr_JSA·
It is utterly fascinating to see people complain against wage compression in the wider UK economy whilst not twigging that about doctors striking because of wage compression in the NHS.
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max tempers@maxtempers

Seems remarkable but it's true: in terms of P90/P10 ratio, wage compression in the UK is similar to the USSR at its most compressed. Soviet min wage also peaked at ~60% median income, while we've just hit 66%. Social democracy has achieved greater egalitarianism than communism.

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Plop Dalop
Plop Dalop@dalop_plop·
@StuartAndrew Sure, how do we stop their pay falling then? The strikes improved their pay, successive governments allowed it to plummet?
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Stuart Andrew
Stuart Andrew@StuartAndrew·
Doctors save lives. They should never be allowed to walk out on patients. Sign the petition to ban doctors from striking, like the police and armed forces. Link in bio and in the comments below 👇
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exveindoc
exveindoc@theveindoc·
Show us the evidence for that claim
Maxi@AllForProgress_

Junior doctors in this country are paid less per hour than the people who deliver their shopping. This is not a metaphor and it's not hyperbole; it's the actual hourly rate after a five-year degree, mounting debt, and the kind of training the rest of the world still sends its students here to receive. They are striking this week and the government's response has been to threaten to cut a thousand training places if they don't fold inside forty-eight hours. Think about what kind of person becomes a doctor in Britain in 2026. They know the pay. They know the hours. They know the system is short-staffed in ways that will haunt their entire careers. They do it anyway, because they are (like people going in teaching in 2026) the most precious and sainted kinds of lunatics, and because something in them still believes the work matters. That instinct is one of the most precious minearls this country owns. Naturally, government's instinct, as is its instinct whenever it encounters value, is to systematically beat and starve it to death. When the last of those people give up and go to Sydney or Toronto or just leave medicine altogether, the loss will not be visible for years. It will become evident later, in waiting lists nobody can clear, in cancers caught too late, in the slow disappearance of the assumption that if something terrible happens to your child there will be someone competent and present to help. You cannot rely on that saving grace any longer. We are eating the seed corn of British medicine, and the bill will be paid by people who don't even know yet that they are going to need it.

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Carter miller
Carter miller@Cartermill65675·
@trentconsultant @dalop_plop Nope I’m merely highlighting the disingenuous nature of your tweets and your message. Drs pay has risen exponentially over the last 30 years. To say “it’s been slashed” is factually incorrect and morally very very wrong.
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Mike Henley 🤨
Mike Henley 🤨@trentconsultant·
It’s simple, treat hospital doctors fairly, we work for a monopoly employer. Since 2008 average workers pay up 68%, consultants only 30%. Our comparator professions up 79%. We’re effectively working for more than a quarter of the year for free compared to 2008.
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Department of Health and Social Care@DHSCgovuk

"NOBODY wants strikes in our NHS. Every time junior doctors walk out, it's patients who feel the impact — and other NHS staff left picking up the pieces." @WesStreeting on how these strikes will mean delayed operations and families left waiting in pain. More in @TheSun: thesun.co.uk/health/3873537…

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