
David
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David
@ddes888
Intellectually curious global citizen
London, England Katılım Şubat 2020
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@aleabitoreddit @LandoInvests it depends how much value is created from the equity issuance as to whether it will be dilutive
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I really find it hard to disagree with my assessment.
I said $IREN was accretive long term. But short term holders are the one funding the buildout by getting diluted.
So the best thing to do for equity appreciation is go long after they get the funding, not while they're actively diluting.
$IREN would not file a $6B ATM just for "optionality" if they didn't need to use it. Especially to monetize their 4.5GW capacity.
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My thoughts on $NBIS, $IREN, $CRWV and the current Neocloud market.
One of them ends up as the next AWS in 5 years:
My guess it’s Nebius.
It's not winner takes all (DigitalOcean is there with Amazon), but there's clearly superior structures and likely winners.
The downside:
-> Low chance of rate cuts from Iran conflict.
->Broader market doesn't appear to want to fund the CapEx cycle. But want to reap the benefits
With $IREN:
We get it, 4.5GW = X revenue. But who is funding the GPUs?
Whoever is buying into the $6,000,000,000 ATM right now.
The winners will be whoever enters after holders get fully diluted.
The reality is, they don't have enough funding to monetize their capacity through GPUs without colo models.
And they didn't find other financing methods, so they went through ATMs because of a cult community that will buy into anything they sell.
However, I agree it will be accretive long term. Just not as much for the retail buying in now.
With $CRWV:
They did everything right... $NVDA backing. Hyperscaler clients...
But they financed completely wrong. Now, $1.5B+ yearly debt interest is eating Coreweave alive and cuts into FCF.
Almost like credit card debt, Coreweave gets a job to pay off that debt, but eventually, the debt interest is too high that working doesn't really cover that and expansion too.
If any company goes down, $CRWV is the first to go the massive debt load and interest.
With $NBIS:
They're doing as much as they can right... $NVDA funding $2B to fund capex.
Convertible note offerings (convertible note short hedging is annoying for short term price appreciation).
But this is the best way to do financing structures with much lower interest than Coreweave.
They now have ~$46B+ in backlog from $META and $MSFT, two of the most profitable hyperscalers out there, without direct OpenAI linked contagion like Coreweave.
And unlike others; there’s appreciation from their other companies (Clickhouse equity appreciation: avride robotaxi scale up; toloka triple digit growth)
From my take: Nebius is the clear winner.
However, current macro environments does not favor short term holders across the board with indexes dropping 7%.
Especially so if they're buying into active ATMs.
Long term, the benefits when they scale up eg. $NBIS Q4 2026 (yes, even $IREN), will be immense.


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@bitcoinbutcher1 @Agrippa_Inv When do you think the conversion will happen and the rest of Childress online?
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As a follow up to my @Agrippa_Inv post.
Childress can hold ~154k B300. Current guidance reflects 17k at Childress.
154k-17k=137k incremental B300 GPUs that require lower cap ex retrofits and come quicker to market.
Current guidance is ~$3.7B
The 137k GPUs will result in ARR of $3.425B to $4.11B if they generate $25k to $30k ARR.
So people can make fun of "legacy" chips but the reality is ARR will double with Childress alone. We have plenty of time to install Rubin.
$7B-$8B guidance is coming soon.
Sweetwater, OK, and all the unannounced pipeline is the cherry on top.
$iren remains misunderstood. More for the few.
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@SJCapitalInvest Reminds me of a saying if you make life changing money you should use it to actually change your life which changed my mindset
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My biggest fear has been being the guy who made a million bucks and lost it.
Today I made sure that will never happen.
I turned $450k into $2.2M in the last 10 months.
This morning I cleared $700k, which I am sweeping into an account that will go into stable low risk ETFs.
I will keep the $1.5M to keep investing and being aggressive.
Every time I hit $2M I will sweep $500k into the other account and let that stay safe and compound.
The reality is, all of this is in my Roth account. I am 39 years old and in 20 years when I can access this, even at 12% growth this is well over $20M. It doesn’t make sense for me to play fast and loose with all of this.
I already won.
I don’t know exactly where I am parking the 700, it’s ok to just sit on cash for a bit while I figure that out.
I will share a full port update tomorrow. But obviously we are on a run over here. I’ve written about my 1m spac trading year, but back then I didn’t know how to handle money, now I do.
I am going to make sure this is actually life changing, and not just a moment.
Appreciate you guys being on the journey with me.
Let’s keep winning.
🔹

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@Agrippa_Inv do you view on responsible the use of capital has been to pay for capped calls given this new atm
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$IREN's $6b ATM…
I think most people are drawing the wrong conclusions from this development.
Don’t get me wrong; a $6b ATM looks ridiculous relative to $IREN;s current market cap of ~$13.5b. If they tapped the entire amount at today’s levels, the share count could increase by >40%.
But that’s a big “IF”, and most people are treating it like a certainty.
Let’s think about it. Why would $IREN need to tap this ATM today? They’re fully funded for the $MSFT deal, having raised over $3b through converts, ~$1.93b of prepayments, and $3.6b of GPU financing. They don’t need a single additional dollar to execute the $MSFT buildout.
Okay, then what about the new ~$3.5b GPU order announced yesterday, surely they’ll use the ATM for that, right?
First, those costs come due gradually through H2, on terms that are 30 days post shipment.
Second, and more importantly, management explicitly stated in yesterday’s press release that the procurement of 50k B300 units will be financed primarily through the same sources they’ve used over the past quarters, namely: prepayments, converts, and GPU financing.
So what’s the actual purpose of this $6b ATM?
The new ATM is primarily a backstop.
It helps establish confidence that $IREN can deliver on large-scale deployments and strengthens their negotiating position by reducing doubts around capital availability.
Will $IREN tap it eventually? Yes, almost certainly at some point, likely when the share price is materially higher. But there’s no indication they’ll draw a meaningful amount anytime soon.
Net dilution from this ATM will most likely come in well below 20%, and could even be closer to ~8–12% (or less) if management stays particularly conservative.
Relative to the growth opportunity in sight, that’s a small price to pay.

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@BryanGreenbaum @Bkclaims Yes they get paid a combination of fixed and success fees depending on how engagements are structured
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I’ve been thinking about something and would genuinely love feedback.
Most hedge funds and VC funds have random small positions sitting on their books that just aren’t worth the time anymore. Sub-$1m litigation claims. Stub equity from old restructurings. Residual bankruptcy recoveries. Defaulted notes. Escrow holdbacks. Things that got marked to zero and effectively forgotten.
They’re too small to matter to a large fund. Too annoying to actively manage. But legally, they’re still real.
What if we created a 501(c)(3) to take those positions off fund books — for free or for nominal “peppercorn” consideration — and actually try to monetize them?
Call it The Peppercorn Foundation.
The idea would be simple: funds transfer these orphaned, written-down assets to the foundation. The foundation does the work. If something ultimately pays out, 100% of the profits go to charity.
Think of it as the financial markets equivalent of the foreign currency you give up at the end of a flight. Individually it doesn’t matter. But aggregated and managed properly, it can actually become meaningful.
There are billions of dollars globally in small, ignored positions sitting below materiality thresholds. Some are truly worthless. But some are just unloved, complex, or long-dated. That’s a part of markets I’ve spent a lot of time in.
If structured correctly, this could let funds clean up their books, potentially create a tax-efficient transfer of illiquid assets, and convert “zero marks” into real philanthropic dollars.
I’m serious about exploring this properly — but it has to be done right.
If you have experience with 501(c)(3) formation, private foundations, nonprofit governance, tax treatment of contributed claims or illiquid securities, UBTI issues, or anything adjacent to this, I would really appreciate you reaching out.
DMs are open.
Let’s see if we can turn abandoned optionality into something that actually funds impact.
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@TheBigDegen Everyone just needs to keep an eye on the bigger picture. In 12-months Iren will have hit a huge inflection point. Multiple deals signed 140k GPUs deployed, Canada throwing off cash flow construction underway in sweetwater. They will be a market leader over $100. Patience is key!
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@matthew_sigel At least Iren is in ramp up mode for HPC, CLSK outlook is horrible with the way btc is trading combined with their mining profitability
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@NatedawgO7 Sounds like something similar to the U.K. where they just change the economics Via different CGT and Stamp duty taxes for landlords versus Owner occupied properties
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So I’m fairly confident I know exactly what Chalmers will do changing the cgt discount for property.
He will lower it from 50% to 25% for existing homes but grandfathered.
They’ll say it’s to give first home buyers a better chance against investors and encourage new supply which will get the bigger tax discount at 50%.
They’ll then use the tax savings to lower income taxes as generational fairness.
They’ll then wedge the liberal party like they did in the 2025 election getting them to vote against income tax cuts.
I’ve read every article on what their plan is the last few days and that seems like what they’re planning. Thoughts? @AvidCommentator
Nath_Sparky@NatedawgO7
We could be on here
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Reminder to Sydney peeps about our event next week. There is no shortage of content for us to cover. Submit your questions and we'll do some digging.
David Scutt@Scutty
Every seminar ends with great questions and not enough time. Next Thursday in Sydney, we’re flipping the format. Markets Unfiltered is built around the questions you submit when you register. If you want something covered, this is how you make it happen.
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$IREN
For anyone wondering what the back-of-the-napkin math may look like to solve for the payback periods:
MSFT Deal
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Total Capex: 8.8B (GPU 5.8B, DC 3B)
Total Revenue : 9.7B (1.94B per year)
EBITDA Margin: 85% (proxy for Operating Cash Flow)
OCF Per Year = 1.94B * 85% = 1.649B
Payback math:
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GPU Capex Payback = 5.8B / 1.649B = 3.5 years
DC Capex Payback = 3B / 1.649B = 1.8 years
Total Capex Payback = 8.8B / 1.649B = 5.3 years
At the end of this payback period the company would fully own Horizon 1-4 valued at 2.25B + any residual value from the GPUs.
Daniel Roberts@danroberts0101
- 3 year pay back on GPUs - the last 2 years of MSFT contract then pay off the data centers too - year 6 onwards = free data centers (for colo or cloud) + any residual value in the GB300s Or, you can sign a colo deal and wait 10++ years to get your capital back on the data centers. I'll take option 1 thanks, and keep compounding shareholder returns into the AI thematic.
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@_Sgr_A_Star Isnt the above theoretical because actual cash flow would be lower meaning pay back takes longer
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@litigious_dulce @LucienBedoyere It will just go up 10% tomorrow if btc stays at this price
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@SteveOnSpeed Main residence paid off and your lifestyle expenses covered from investment income
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