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@Aryonchain @dtapscott @blockchainRI @alextapscott @CMT_Digital One of our greatest 'deliverables' haha

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Aryan@Aryonchain·2d

@dtapscott @blockchainRI @defidecodedpod @alextapscott @CMT_Digital Thank you kindly @dtapscott, crazy to think that I was at the BRI almost 10 years ago! Time flies!

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Don Tapscott@dtapscott·2d

Great to see @blockchainRI alum, @Aryonchain on @defidecodedpod with @alextapscott . Aryan is now the head of research at @CMT_Digital , one of the leading institutional investors in the blockchain ecosystem. We are so proud of everything he's accomplished. This is a great conversation - check it out!

New @defidecodedpod is out! Why did Chicago trading firms embrace crypto years before Wall Street banks? Was it the entrepreneurial culture of the rough and tumble trading pits or something else? I sat down with @Aryonchain and @mcasto_ of @CMT_Digital to explore how CMT evolved from a trading firm into a leader across venture, DeFi, stablecoins, tokenized RWAs, onchain lending, vaults, and more. A wide-ranging conversation. Check it out!

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Link to episode: x.com/defidecodedpod…

Episode 243: Crypto for Me, But Not for Thee? Why the Bank Lobby Wants to Neuter Crypto Regulations with Alison Mangiero of Crypto Council for Innovation @alextapscott @AMangiero @crypto_council @CMCC_Global 0:00 Introduction 3:25 Guest intro: Alison Mangiero and CCI 4:00 How CCI engages with lawmakers 5:15 How Congress’s understanding of crypto has evolved 7:00 Where CLARITY stands today 9:30 August recess deadline and Senate timing 10:55 Why banks are pushing back 12:00 Stablecoin rewards, staking, and bank interest 13:45 Consumer choice and competition 15:40 Why regulation supports consumer protection 16:55 CCI’s members and the TradFi/crypto convergence 19:15 Why passing laws is only the start 22:15 Politics, midterms, and timing risk 23:30 What the CLARITY Act actually does 25:10 Why market structure matters for institutions 29:00 Digital asset fundraising and “Reg Crypto” 33:15 The digital asset tax debate 36:00 What could happen over the next six months 37:10 Odds of CLARITY passing and closing outlook

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It's time for CLARITY! We recently recorded an excellent interview with @AMangiero of the @crypto_council She broke down what's at stake and what to expect from the final weeks of political horse trading. Link in the next tweet 👇

Incumbents have a choice: defend yesterday’s moat or build tomorrow’s markets. Goldman Sachs has calculated that CLARITY can be a boon for financial innovators willing to embrace blockchain and crypto. Time for others to get on board. Let’s pass CLARITY now.

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The industry spent years asking Washington to engage. Now Washington is engaging and the interesting question is what the industry does with it. Robert Harrington of Cantor puts it to @stevie_satoshi of @binanceUS, @alextapscott of @CMCC_Global, @perkinscr97 of @FTDA_US, and @lesborsai of @wavedigital_.

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A very lively discussion! Enjoyed sharing the stage with such a sharp group.

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Alex Tapscott@alextapscott·5d

Great seeing @Scaramucci at the Out East Summit. Always insightful, always entertaining, and kind enough to help with a little unpaid promotion for my latest book Web3!

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Alex Tapscott@alextapscott·17 Tem

I'll be speaking at #OutEastSummit next week, hosted by @TheTieIO Looking forward to the discussions, and to catching up with friends and colleagues. If you're planning to be there, hope to see you! You can request a ticket here: outeastsummit.com

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Passing crypto market structure isn’t the finish line. It’s the starting line for years of regulatory implementation. The real work begins after the bill becomes law. — @AMangiero, Chief Strategy Officer and Head of U.S. Policy at @crypto_council

Episode 243: Crypto for Me, But Not for Thee? Why the Bank Lobby Wants to Neuter Crypto Regulations with Alison Mangiero of Crypto Council for Innovation @alextapscott @AMangiero @crypto_council @CMCC_Global 0:00 Introduction 3:25 Guest intro: Alison Mangiero and CCI 4:00 How CCI engages with lawmakers 5:15 How Congress’s understanding of crypto has evolved 7:00 Where CLARITY stands today 9:30 August recess deadline and Senate timing 10:55 Why banks are pushing back 12:00 Stablecoin rewards, staking, and bank interest 13:45 Consumer choice and competition 15:40 Why regulation supports consumer protection 16:55 CCI’s members and the TradFi/crypto convergence 19:15 Why passing laws is only the start 22:15 Politics, midterms, and timing risk 23:30 What the CLARITY Act actually does 25:10 Why market structure matters for institutions 29:00 Digital asset fundraising and “Reg Crypto” 33:15 The digital asset tax debate 36:00 What could happen over the next six months 37:10 Odds of CLARITY passing and closing outlook

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The DeFi Decoded Podcast@defidecodedpod·14 Tem

Passing crypto market structure isn’t the finish line. It’s the starting line for years of regulatory implementation. The real work begins after the bill becomes law. — @AMangiero, Chief Strategy Officer and Head of U.S. Policy of @crypto_council

Episode 243: Crypto for Me, But Not for Thee? Why the Bank Lobby Wants to Neuter Crypto Regulations with Alison Mangiero of Crypto Council for Innovation @alextapscott @AMangiero @crypto_council @CMCC_Global 0:00 Introduction 3:25 Guest intro: Alison Mangiero and CCI 4:00 How CCI engages with lawmakers 5:15 How Congress’s understanding of crypto has evolved 7:00 Where CLARITY stands today 9:30 August recess deadline and Senate timing 10:55 Why banks are pushing back 12:00 Stablecoin rewards, staking, and bank interest 13:45 Consumer choice and competition 15:40 Why regulation supports consumer protection 16:55 CCI’s members and the TradFi/crypto convergence 19:15 Why passing laws is only the start 22:15 Politics, midterms, and timing risk 23:30 What the CLARITY Act actually does 25:10 Why market structure matters for institutions 29:00 Digital asset fundraising and “Reg Crypto” 33:15 The digital asset tax debate 36:00 What could happen over the next six months 37:10 Odds of CLARITY passing and closing outlook

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Market structure legislation is closer than it’s ever been. Bipartisan engagement is still very much alive. Now it’s about reconciling the Senate bills and getting a floor vote. — @AMangiero, Chief Strategy Officer and Head of U.S. Policy at @crypto_council

Episode 243: Crypto for Me, But Not for Thee? Why the Bank Lobby Wants to Neuter Crypto Regulations with Alison Mangiero of Crypto Council for Innovation @alextapscott @AMangiero @crypto_council @CMCC_Global 0:00 Introduction 3:25 Guest intro: Alison Mangiero and CCI 4:00 How CCI engages with lawmakers 5:15 How Congress’s understanding of crypto has evolved 7:00 Where CLARITY stands today 9:30 August recess deadline and Senate timing 10:55 Why banks are pushing back 12:00 Stablecoin rewards, staking, and bank interest 13:45 Consumer choice and competition 15:40 Why regulation supports consumer protection 16:55 CCI’s members and the TradFi/crypto convergence 19:15 Why passing laws is only the start 22:15 Politics, midterms, and timing risk 23:30 What the CLARITY Act actually does 25:10 Why market structure matters for institutions 29:00 Digital asset fundraising and “Reg Crypto” 33:15 The digital asset tax debate 36:00 What could happen over the next six months 37:10 Odds of CLARITY passing and closing outlook

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Alex Tapscott@alextapscott·9 Tem

New DeFi Decoded is out! I sit down with @AMangiero, Chief Strategy Officer and Head of Policy at @crypto_council. We're closer than ever to CLARITY becoming law, but the fight is far from over. The banking lobby wants regulation that protects incumbents and raises barriers for new entrants. Alison and her team are advocating for rules that protect consumers and promote innovation. Who will win the argument? You won't want to miss this one.

Alex Tapscott@alextapscott

Episode 243: Crypto for Me, But Not for Thee? Why the Bank Lobby Wants to Neuter Crypto Regulations with Alison Mangiero of Crypto Council for Innovation @alextapscott @AMangiero @crypto_council @CMCC_Global 0:00 Introduction 3:25 Guest intro: Alison Mangiero and CCI 4:00 How CCI engages with lawmakers 5:15 How Congress’s understanding of crypto has evolved 7:00 Where CLARITY stands today 9:30 August recess deadline and Senate timing 10:55 Why banks are pushing back 12:00 Stablecoin rewards, staking, and bank interest 13:45 Consumer choice and competition 15:40 Why regulation supports consumer protection 16:55 CCI’s members and the TradFi/crypto convergence 19:15 Why passing laws is only the start 22:15 Politics, midterms, and timing risk 23:30 What the CLARITY Act actually does 25:10 Why market structure matters for institutions 29:00 Digital asset fundraising and “Reg Crypto” 33:15 The digital asset tax debate 36:00 What could happen over the next six months 37:10 Odds of CLARITY passing and closing outlook

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Alison Mangiero@AMangiero·10 Tem

Great to chat with @alextapscott on @defidecodedpod. One thing I hope listeners take away: good policy isn't about choosing incumbents or challengers. We should all be focused on creating clear, technology-neutral rules that let responsible innovation thrive here in the U.S. while protecting consumers. Appreciated the opportunity to discuss where we are on market structure and tax policy, and what likely comes next.

New DeFi Decoded is out! I sit down with @AMangiero, Chief Strategy Officer and Head of Policy at @crypto_council. We're closer than ever to CLARITY becoming law, but the fight is far from over. The banking lobby wants regulation that protects incumbents and raises barriers for new entrants. Alison and her team are advocating for rules that protect consumers and promote innovation. Who will win the argument? You won't want to miss this one.

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Crypto Council for Innovation@crypto_council·9 Tem

“If you want consumer protection, then you want more regulation and you want a law like Clarity to pass…Rules of the road benefit everyone” - @Amangiero breaks down why the time is now for Clarity on @defidecodedpod with @alextapscott.

Episode 243: Crypto for Me, But Not for Thee? Why the Bank Lobby Wants to Neuter Crypto Regulations with Alison Mangiero of Crypto Council for Innovation @alextapscott @AMangiero @crypto_council @CMCC_Global 0:00 Introduction 3:25 Guest intro: Alison Mangiero and CCI 4:00 How CCI engages with lawmakers 5:15 How Congress’s understanding of crypto has evolved 7:00 Where CLARITY stands today 9:30 August recess deadline and Senate timing 10:55 Why banks are pushing back 12:00 Stablecoin rewards, staking, and bank interest 13:45 Consumer choice and competition 15:40 Why regulation supports consumer protection 16:55 CCI’s members and the TradFi/crypto convergence 19:15 Why passing laws is only the start 22:15 Politics, midterms, and timing risk 23:30 What the CLARITY Act actually does 25:10 Why market structure matters for institutions 29:00 Digital asset fundraising and “Reg Crypto” 33:15 The digital asset tax debate 36:00 What could happen over the next six months 37:10 Odds of CLARITY passing and closing outlook

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@alextapscott @AMangiero @crypto_council Alison delivered a masterclass. A true insider's look 👀

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Episode 243: Crypto for Me, But Not for Thee? Why the Bank Lobby Wants to Neuter Crypto Regulations with Alison Mangiero of Crypto Council for Innovation @alextapscott @AMangiero @crypto_council @CMCC_Global 0:00 Introduction 3:25 Guest intro: Alison Mangiero and CCI 4:00 How CCI engages with lawmakers 5:15 How Congress’s understanding of crypto has evolved 7:00 Where CLARITY stands today 9:30 August recess deadline and Senate timing 10:55 Why banks are pushing back 12:00 Stablecoin rewards, staking, and bank interest 13:45 Consumer choice and competition 15:40 Why regulation supports consumer protection 16:55 CCI’s members and the TradFi/crypto convergence 19:15 Why passing laws is only the start 22:15 Politics, midterms, and timing risk 23:30 What the CLARITY Act actually does 25:10 Why market structure matters for institutions 29:00 Digital asset fundraising and “Reg Crypto” 33:15 The digital asset tax debate 36:00 What could happen over the next six months 37:10 Odds of CLARITY passing and closing outlook

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The winners in crypto won’t do everything. They’ll build deep expertise in a few areas while investing early in where the industry is headed. Focus beats breadth. — @JoshR_GSR, Chief Legal & Strategy Officer of @GSR_io

Episode 242: The Journey From Crypto Market Maker to Financial Powerhouse with Joshua Riezman of GSR @alextapscott @JoshR_GSR @GSR_io @CMCC_Global 0:00 Introduction 3:15 Guest intro: Josh Riezman and GSR’s evolution 3:30 From OTC trading to crypto market making 5:00 Why liquidity matters for token networks 6:30 GSR’s move into venture, advisory, and capital markets 8:15 What clients are asking for today 9:00 Stablecoins, asset management, and treasury strategies 11:45 RWAs and the tokenization wave 13:45 Building a global crypto-native financial institution 15:45 Where GSR sees value in tokenized assets 18:40 Crypto-native infrastructure vs traditional Wall Street firms 21:00 Investment banking, client relationships, and market making 25:00 Global regulation and the end of “unregulated crypto” 29:00 On-chain capital formation and new fundraising models 31:30 Tokenized equity, global liquidity, and market access 34:30 Programmatic distribution and fairer IPO mechanics 36:00 AI IPOs, private markets, and why tokenization hasn’t taken over yet 37:20 SpaceX, Hyperliquid, and on-chain price discovery 39:40 Closing thoughts

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As stablecoins expand, they don’t just bring more dollars onchain. They bring the gravitational pull for more financial assets to follow. — @JoshR_GSR, Chief Legal & Strategy Officer of @GSR_io

Episode 242: The Journey From Crypto Market Maker to Financial Powerhouse with Joshua Riezman of GSR @alextapscott @JoshR_GSR @GSR_io @CMCC_Global 0:00 Introduction 3:15 Guest intro: Josh Riezman and GSR’s evolution 3:30 From OTC trading to crypto market making 5:00 Why liquidity matters for token networks 6:30 GSR’s move into venture, advisory, and capital markets 8:15 What clients are asking for today 9:00 Stablecoins, asset management, and treasury strategies 11:45 RWAs and the tokenization wave 13:45 Building a global crypto-native financial institution 15:45 Where GSR sees value in tokenized assets 18:40 Crypto-native infrastructure vs traditional Wall Street firms 21:00 Investment banking, client relationships, and market making 25:00 Global regulation and the end of “unregulated crypto” 29:00 On-chain capital formation and new fundraising models 31:30 Tokenized equity, global liquidity, and market access 34:30 Programmatic distribution and fairer IPO mechanics 36:00 AI IPOs, private markets, and why tokenization hasn’t taken over yet 37:20 SpaceX, Hyperliquid, and on-chain price discovery 39:40 Closing thoughts

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The DeFi Decoded Podcast@defidecodedpod·6 Tem

Crypto’s regulatory gray zone is disappearing. The firms that embraced compliance early are now best positioned to scale globally. Regulation is becoming a competitive advantage. — @JoshR_GSR, Chief Legal & Strategy Officer of @GSR_io

Episode 242: The Journey From Crypto Market Maker to Financial Powerhouse with Joshua Riezman of GSR @alextapscott @JoshR_GSR @GSR_io @CMCC_Global 0:00 Introduction 3:15 Guest intro: Josh Riezman and GSR’s evolution 3:30 From OTC trading to crypto market making 5:00 Why liquidity matters for token networks 6:30 GSR’s move into venture, advisory, and capital markets 8:15 What clients are asking for today 9:00 Stablecoins, asset management, and treasury strategies 11:45 RWAs and the tokenization wave 13:45 Building a global crypto-native financial institution 15:45 Where GSR sees value in tokenized assets 18:40 Crypto-native infrastructure vs traditional Wall Street firms 21:00 Investment banking, client relationships, and market making 25:00 Global regulation and the end of “unregulated crypto” 29:00 On-chain capital formation and new fundraising models 31:30 Tokenized equity, global liquidity, and market access 34:30 Programmatic distribution and fairer IPO mechanics 36:00 AI IPOs, private markets, and why tokenization hasn’t taken over yet 37:20 SpaceX, Hyperliquid, and on-chain price discovery 39:40 Closing thoughts

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