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@degennQuant
Until we house all of finance. (800, 800) CoFounder @hyperbeat
Katılım Mayıs 2023
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In 2019, I got banned from trading on Bybit after my government blocked leveraged trading.
In 2021, I moved to FTX, which collapsed in 2022, causing me to lose all my money.
In 2023, I moved to Polymarket to try a new type of trading platform.
In 2025, I got blocked from trading on Polymarket because my government banned prediction markets.
With no options left, I was forced to move to Ireland so I could continue my job as a trader on Polymarket.
Now, in 2026, I just found out that Polymarket has also been banned in Ireland, today.
I may now have to move to Luxembourg or perhaps Denmark for the second time in a single year just to continue my job as a trader.
Why are governments and regulations like this?
The government has not protected me in any way. They have only made my life so much harder.
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TradFi trading volumes + IO flipping cryto trading on @HyperliquidX is extremely bullish
The hardest thing is breaking out of the crypto bubble and this paves the way for major adoption from equity / other traders globally
$HYPE is still undervalued
Do not miss next leg up
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800.HL@degennQuant
the idea that we intentionally lead misled people is completely incorrect here We opened it to traders who did not want to KYC so that we aren't forcing people into doxxing, but then you run into issue of self-referrals and trading to meet minimum which requires manual review we could have also forced people to KYC here and then not had anyone complain because its 100% not possible to sybil it So either way we had to make a call, either award ref points instantly and create perfect game-able loops for sybils where its rational to self-refer as long as prize > cost We choose to do it after cut off and do manual reviews because it was not feasible to do it every day during the world cup We put real cash on the line for users, and came up with a innovative game when most other teams did next to nothing for the world cup, should we have capped referrals in hindsight? Of course. Could we just change the rule when we realised it would become a issue? No. Since then people inviting friends would feel rugged. This is the first time we tried to do an entire fantasy game as an incentive campaign, which objectively is a difficult undertaking and learn a lot of lessons I am sorry you dropped places due to referral points, but I want to be clear that we didn't intentionally try rug people, we paid out more money in prizes than we made : ) @surgegainz @HyperliquidEco @0xasrequired
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@degennQuant @hyperbeat Thx for the reply.
So you see no issue with the #1 on the leaderboard ending up 11th and missing out on 10k prize money after ref points were added?
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Be @hyperbeat :
- Set up world cup fantasy football game, juicy prices
- Give bonus points for trading activity
- Dont reflect referral points in the leaderboard
- Milk real players for fees
- Add ref points after the final, ct influencers win
- peak crypto, gg @degennQuant
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@surgegainz @0xasrequired @ThatAIFreak @HyperliquidEco @hyperbeat @Plasma Yes I totally agree should have been capped
Always factors that people don't see, team resources, hindsight bias, handling influx of net new users etc.
We will be better next time < 3
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I do think they should have been capped. Looks like some people got more points from refferal than from playing the game,and with take top 3 spots, which seems like a huge fuck up. And think adding refferal each matchday with a sybil review at the end (which your doing anyway now) would have been better optics than the route you chose for the assumptions people are making now. As ive said to you, Fantasy sports is a really ambitious undertaking, and ultimately it was fun and many people will get free monies, so respect.
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This is really the biggest joke there is. People who were outside of the top 200 are now in the top 3.
@hyperbeat was, again, insane slow to add these ref points to the leaderboard.
I’m HL aligned, but I’m insane bearish on this team and I’m gonna use @Plasma card 100 out of 100 times above Hyperbeat.
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800.HL@degennQuant
the idea that we intentionally lead misled people is completely incorrect here We opened it to traders who did not want to KYC so that we aren't forcing people into doxxing, but then you run into issue of self-referrals and trading to meet minimum which requires manual review we could have also forced people to KYC here and then not had anyone complain because its 100% not possible to sybil it So either way we had to make a call, either award ref points instantly and create perfect game-able loops for sybils where its rational to self-refer as long as prize > cost We choose to do it after cut off and do manual reviews because it was not feasible to do it every day during the world cup We put real cash on the line for users, and came up with a innovative game when most other teams did next to nothing for the world cup, should we have capped referrals in hindsight? Of course. Could we just change the rule when we realised it would become a issue? No. Since then people inviting friends would feel rugged. This is the first time we tried to do an entire fantasy game as an incentive campaign, which objectively is a difficult undertaking and learn a lot of lessons I am sorry you dropped places due to referral points, but I want to be clear that we didn't intentionally try rug people, we paid out more money in prizes than we made : ) @surgegainz @HyperliquidEco @0xasrequired
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i am extremely disappointed in all of you
you had over a month to do $50k vol (open one SP500 trade on 50x lev and immediately close)
i spent $400 on builder fees to get the daily boost and i’m winning $55, fantastic
0xWilko@HyperliquidEco
This is really the biggest joke there is. People who were outside of the top 200 are now in the top 3. @hyperbeat was, again, insane slow to add these ref points to the leaderboard. I’m HL aligned, but I’m insane bearish on this team and I’m gonna use @Plasma card 100 out of 100 times above Hyperbeat.
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Day 566: Won $4,500 in the Hyperbeat World Cup game.
The only reason I finished 3rd was because of referrals.
I referred 236 people, and earned 10% of every eligible referral's points.
Out of those 236 people, only 16 traded at least $50K in volume and became eligible for rewards.
That earned me an extra 1,350 points, which was enough to move me into 3rd place.
If you used my referral link and traded +$50k, send me proof in the comments or DM, and I'll send you $100 as a thank you.
Didi@DidiTrading
Day 532: Another free chance to win up to $10,000. @Hyperbeat is giving away $50K in rewards through their free World Cup fantasy game. > Build a 15-player squad > Maximum 3 players from the same nation > Select a captain for double points The top 2,000 finishers will split the prize pool. 1st place: $10,000 2nd place: $6,000 3rd place: $4,000 It takes about 2 minutes to enter and even the person finishing 2000th still receives $25. Only 475 people have signed up so far and the World Cup starts tomorrow. Sign up here: app.hyperbeat.org/dapp/pay?ref=D…
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800.HL@degennQuant
the idea that we intentionally lead misled people is completely incorrect here We opened it to traders who did not want to KYC so that we aren't forcing people into doxxing, but then you run into issue of self-referrals and trading to meet minimum which requires manual review we could have also forced people to KYC here and then not had anyone complain because its 100% not possible to sybil it So either way we had to make a call, either award ref points instantly and create perfect game-able loops for sybils where its rational to self-refer as long as prize > cost We choose to do it after cut off and do manual reviews because it was not feasible to do it every day during the world cup We put real cash on the line for users, and came up with a innovative game when most other teams did next to nothing for the world cup, should we have capped referrals in hindsight? Of course. Could we just change the rule when we realised it would become a issue? No. Since then people inviting friends would feel rugged. This is the first time we tried to do an entire fantasy game as an incentive campaign, which objectively is a difficult undertaking and learn a lot of lessons I am sorry you dropped places due to referral points, but I want to be clear that we didn't intentionally try rug people, we paid out more money in prizes than we made : ) @surgegainz @HyperliquidEco @0xasrequired
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Football World Cup campaign on @hyperbeat ended.
I managed to rank 624 with a score of 611 point.
Last minute the LB change cause of the referral point and out of nowhere @DidiTrading comes in top 3.
I got 0 referral point cause my referral didn't confirm their eligibility and i lost 400 points.
Moreover, $55 reward while giving $10 in trading fee is also good imo.
Reward will distribute soon in the hyperbeat wallet.
Check your account : app.hyperbeat.org/pay/app/worldc…
Stephen@SourabhStephen
Participating on the @hyperbeat fantasy football World cup campaign. > Reward pool : $150k > Eligible users : Top 2k > Top 1 gets : $10k (pure skill based) > Zero cost Go to : app.hyperbeat.org/dapp/pay?ref=s… Sign up (if you are new) Go to World cup tab Create your 15 player squad for $100m budget token Enter in the arena You will get upto 20% boost if you use their card or trade on their platform. I ranked at 440 with 2 points now, more likely my player hasn't played any matches yet. Hoping to enter top top 50 while applying the boost. Best of luck
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the idea that we intentionally lead misled people is completely incorrect here
We opened it to traders who did not want to KYC so that we aren't forcing people into doxxing, but then you run into issue of self-referrals and trading to meet minimum which requires manual review
we could have also forced people to KYC here and then not had anyone complain because its 100% not possible to sybil it
So either way we had to make a call, either award ref points instantly and create perfect game-able loops for sybils where its rational to self-refer as long as prize > cost
We choose to do it after cut off and do manual reviews because it was not feasible to do it every day during the world cup
We put real cash on the line for users, and came up with a innovative game when most other teams did next to nothing for the world cup, should we have capped referrals in hindsight? Of course. Could we just change the rule when we realised it would become a issue? No. Since then people inviting friends would feel rugged.
This is the first time we tried to do an entire fantasy game as an incentive campaign, which objectively is a difficult undertaking and learn a lot of lessons
I am sorry you dropped places due to referral points, but I want to be clear that we didn't intentionally try rug people, we paid out more money in prizes than we made : )
@surgegainz @HyperliquidEco @0xasrequired
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@ThatAIFreak @HyperliquidEco @degennQuant @hyperbeat @Plasma he means that if ref points came in live (when a ref does $50k vol), the leaderboard would’ve looked less appealing to new entrants
his point is that hyperbeat intentionally left it until the final matchday in order to lure in as many people as possible
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9c spread in a world cup final prediction market on HIP4
Pretty disappointing ngl, could barely trade my position at all
HIP4 permissionless deployments are now coming soon so let's see how that goes, rooting for @Outcomexyz to cook
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@Paqi_Asiya Yes, but this basically means tying your tradfi life to your crypto life which 99% of current crypto card users do not want
Question is can a neobank do it better than a tradfi bank on the unsecured credit market ?
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The first neobank to do unsecured revolving credit is going to wipe the market.
TradFi solves credit with trust: bureaus, income verification, legal recourse. These credit cards extend a limit today and can enforce repayment tomorrow because decades of infrastructure back the person, not the asset.
Crypto never built that layer, so every onchain “credit” product solves trust with collateral instead. Overcollateralized lending (Aave, Morpho) means depositing more than you borrow, no underwriting, just liquidation math. Undercollateralized pools (Maple, Goldfinch) get closer to real credit, but it’s underwritten institutional lending through pool delegates, not a consumer product. The card-linked products (etherfi, Hyperbeat) are secured revolving credit: borrow against staked collateral, spend, repeat. They solved the revolving part, but the unsecured part isn’t quite there yet.
Users don’t want to manage collateral ratios. They want to swipe and pay later, because that’s the muscle memory thirty years of credit cards built. Crypto’s entire trust model runs on the opposite premise: don’t trust, verify, collateralize.
Solving unsecured revolving credit onchain means solving identity and enforceable recourse at scale. It also means solving a fundamental tension between traditional finance and decentralized finance. It’s one of the hardest problems to solve. What this also means though is it’s probably one of the most profitable problems to solve.
Unsecured revolving credit for individuals.
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...today is the day.
dilemma@actuallyimthe
Argentina just beat Spain at the 2026 World Cup final, 3-2.
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. @Cbb0fe has been number 1 equities trader by uPNL on hyperliquid for the last 24h and 7 days
started copytrading him today for new trades, will be sharing results
Hyperliquid
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I now take $HYPE swing trades and pay my invoices instantly from my trading account
Feels like magic
Liquid banking
Hyperbeat@hyperbeat
Introducing Send to Bank Closing a trade and getting your profits into your bank account used to take days. As of today, it's one button and one minute. Liquid banking.
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