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Derek Radney

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PCA pastor @trinitychurchws | BA @WakeForest | MDiv @TEDS | ThM @DukeDivinity | biblical imagination @cateclesia | The Alliance @a4mrofficial

Winston-Salem, NC Katılım Şubat 2011
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Derek Radney
Derek Radney@derekradney·
5.4 “What the ordainee is required "sincerely to receive and adopt" is "the Confession of Faith of this Church, as containing the system of doctrine taught in the Holy Scriptures" (Form of Government, xv.). This is not the same as requiring him to receive the Confession of Faith in its ipsissima verba, or in all its forms of statement. That would scarcely be a liberal formula. Nor is it the same as merely requiring the reception of the Confession for substance of doctrine. That would not be a safe formula. What is "nominated in the bond" is "system of doctrine"; and that is historically what has always been understood by it. As such, it is both a liberal and a safe formula. Liberal, because it does not bind to the mere letter; safe, because it strictly holds the ordainee to the system of doctrine and to every doctrine that enters as a constituent part into that system. No one can sign this formula who is not a strict Calvinist; no one who denies any one of the doctrines which enter into the structure of the Calvinistic system as taught in the Confession of Faith.…It is a safe formula, because it binds strictly to the whole doctrinal system of the Confession, and to all and every one of the doctrines entering as essential constituent parts into that system. It is liberal, because it allows for all sorts of variation in preferred ways of stating the system, consistent with preserving the system intact. It, therefore, allows all the liberty consistent with the preservation of the whole truth, and thus evinces itself as the ideal formula.”
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Derek Radney@derekradney·
"The American churches have such a formula. Of course it lies in the courts of the Church to decide what is and what is not "of the system," and Church courts are not infallible, nor always faithful. But Church courts can afford, and do venture, to hold men strictly to the terms of a liberal formula, when they could not to an illiberal one. Overstrictness demands and begets laxity in performance; while a truly liberal but conservative formula binds all essentially sound men together against laxity. In pleading for a liberal formula, therefore, we wish it distinctly understood that we do not plead either for a lax formula, or much less for a lax administration of any formula—within which an essential dishonesty seems to lurk. The American formula appears to us the ideal one, and as nothing more lax than it would be acceptable or safe, certainly a lax administration of it would be unendurable, and, as we have said, essentially dishonest."
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Derek Radney@derekradney·
B.B. Warfield in "On the Revision of the Confession" discussing confessional subscription: en.wikisource.org/wiki/On_the_Re… "The most we can expect, and the most we have right to ask, is that each one may be able to recognize it as an expression of the system of truth which he believes. To go beyond this and seek to make each of a large body of signers accept the Confession in all its propositions as the profession of his personal belief, cannot fail to result in serious evils—not least among which are the twin evils that, on the one hand, too strict subscription overreaches itself and becomes little better than no subscription; and, on the other, that it begets a spirit of petty, carping criticism which raises objection to forms of statement that in other circumstances would not appear objectionable."
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Derek Radney@derekradney·
@NativePresby What? I fail to see what this portion of the BCO has to do with understanding how it is to be interpreted and applied.
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Native Presbyterian@NativePresby·
@derekradney 9-3. To the office of deacon, which is spiritual in nature, shall be chosen men of spiritual character, honest repute, exemplary lives, brotherly spirit, warm sympathies, and sound judgment.
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Derek Radney@derekradney·
“When the BCO does not address a matter, each court may use discretion. The BCO is intended to speak only when necessary. When it does speak, it is authoritative. When it does not speak, it is not a prohibition. In other words, it is prescriptive (laying out what is required), not proscriptive (forbidding anything not explicitly permitted by it.” - Per Almquist in Our Bond of Union: A Commentary on the Book of Church Order of the Presbyterian Church in America
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Derek Radney@derekradney·
I can’t tell you how many times I have heard PCA elders argue, “That isn’t in the ‘spirit’ of the BCO,” to try and limit someone from doing something they don’t like, not because it violates the preliminary principles but because it violates some non-existent rule they wish existed.
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Derek Radney@derekradney·
@brothernelson It should be noted that he published this in 1839&1840, and that his later work *The Church and Its Polity* in 1879 gives greater clarity to the details of subscription in the Presbyterian Churches of the United States.
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Jared Nelson@brothernelson·
preach and teach according to the form of sound words in the said Confession and Catechisms, and avoid and oppose all errors contrary thereto." -Charles Hodge. Constitutional History of the Presbyterian Church
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Jared Nelson@brothernelson·
“That our church from the beginning adopted the strict rule of subscription is plain, Because all the members of the original Synod (except one), adopted in 1729 every doctrine of the Confession as expressing his own faith, save certain clauses relating to the power of civil mag”
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Geoff Ziegler
Geoff Ziegler@gziegler·
My sense is that we as a denomination have become a bit foggy when it comes to vision and what we want to work together towards. As you think and pray about the PCA’s future, what are the things you hope for? I'd love to hear people's thoughts. I’ll start with my big 5:
Geoff Ziegler@gziegler

"A church where hope wanes becomes an anxious system. Preservation becomes the primary goal, and legislation becomes the primary means. In recent years, this anxiety has shown itself within the PCA...Hope creates a different posture."

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Derek Radney@derekradney·
@pastormbowman I suspect something close to this is very possible. Many seem to support focusing on very few and sending the rest back.
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Michael Bowman@pastormbowman·
Overtures Committee Hack for #pcaga: We have the opportunity to be the most efficient overtures committee in history. Motion to refer back all overtures in omnibus. 1 vote. It's clean. It's simple.
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Christian Miller
Christian Miller@CharacterGap·
**Book Giveaway!** With *The Honesty Crisis: Preserving Our Most Treasured Virtue in an Increasingly Dishonest World* to be released in exactly a week, it is time to give away some free signed copies! Must retweet and follow (if needed) to enter. I will randomly select three winners and cover mailing costs. Please share!
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Derek Radney@derekradney·
@WVPitt Good work. I live in W-S and this stuff caused a great disturbance right down the road from me. I am thankful for the clarity of this response.
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MICHAEL LEE WOMACK
MICHAEL LEE WOMACK@WomackPoetry26·
The hardcover version of Bully Pulpit: Confronting the Problem of Spiritual Abuse in the Church by @michaeljkruger is ON SALE for $14.94 'Spiritual abuse is one of the greatest stains on the bride of Christ today. Too few with pulpits and platforms are willing to recognize the basic truths that Michael Kruger addresses clearly, convincingly, and biblically. I thought Bully Pulpit would be a book every pastor and Christian leader ought to read. But I changed my mind: every Christian from pulpit to pew needs to read this wise and timely work--for the sake of the church and her people.' -- @KSPrior, research professor of English and Christianity & Culture at Southeastern Baptist Theological Seminary and author of On Reading Well 'The topic of spiritual abuse needs careful attention and sober reflection, so I'm thankful for this thoughtful, wise, and biblical book. Dr. Kruger provides helpful clarity on a controversial subject while courageously cautioning ministry leaders about the kind of leadership that doesn't reflect the heart of Christ. Anyone who serves the spiritual needs of people should read this timely book.' -- @MarkVroegop, lead pastor of College Park Church and author of Dark Clouds, Deep Mercy purchase link: amazon.com/Bully-Pulpit-C… @Zondervan
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Derek Radney@derekradney·
IME on a PCA credential committee, men who do not state any differences are NOT viewed with suspicion any more than those who do. What I have found is that the vast majority of candidates, whether they state a difference or not, have not thought through most doctrines thoroughly enough.
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Harrison Ford
Harrison Ford@rhford123·
IMO, the most important conversation we're not having. That's why it's the theme of this year's Next Generation Forum.
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Robert Hasler@rdhasler

“As a rule, institutions should not allow themselves to become over-optimized around a single person (or generation), no matter how talented, in ways that sacrifices the long-term trajectory of the institution or future generations.” —@aaron_renn Sound advice for a denomination like the PCA as well as individual congregations. Leaders who take a steward mindset are not likely to experience the short-term “success” of leaders with platform mindsets but will probably set their institutions up for long-term vitality which, over time, should produce a bigger pool of qualified successors. aaronrenn.com/p/boomer-succe…

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