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@BowTiedUM @0xexpt @5ARSociety @hanz333_ Thanks for second view DHT E from @5ARSociety 50mg/week for 9 weeks , daily injections Just for reference, on this same exact batch of Test, my total was 1007 free 292 on 180/week

@dht1k @0xexpt @5ARSociety @hanz333_ Yes real primo and underdosed or fake T and dht is what it looks like

@BowTiedUM @0xexpt @5ARSociety @hanz333_ It also wouldn’t even matter if my test and primo was completely fake as my DHT would and should be through the roof

@dht1k @0xexpt @5ARSociety @hanz333_ There's been raw shortage for over a year and most people are getting dirty and underdosed gear. Could have somethin to do with that.

@BowTiedUM @0xexpt @5ARSociety @hanz333_ Yeah so what’s going on here bro? Very confused

@dht1k @0xexpt @5ARSociety @hanz333_ No, nevermind. You don't appear to be 5a reducing it all if dht is that low. Sigh.

@BowTiedUM @hanz333_ Can crashed E2 raise TSH / lower T3? Currently: E2: 12pg Free T3: 3.7 TSH: 2.53 300 protein, 850 carbs, 60 fat macros

@BowTiedUM @0xexpt @5ARSociety @hanz333_ Appreciate the response Do you agree with @hanz333_ that it’s possible for it not to show up on bloodwork? on 180 test my total is 1000+ on 300 test 300 primo, my total dropped to 776 after adding DHT for 9 weeks.

@dht1k @0xexpt @5ARSociety @hanz333_ Yes, that does happen. You need to intervene with e2 or hcg.

@eliterecomp According to your PFP you’re 20% brother

11.4% body fat. 156.8 lbs lean mass. Apr DEXA. Still on Reta + TRT. The 'GLP-1 eats muscle' crowd hasn't met a dialed-in protocol. Muscle doesn't disappear when you train, stack right, and actually track the data. 🤷 My DEXA doesn't care about your theory.

@0xexpt @5ARSociety @hanz333_ @BowTiedUM Correct - all my test must be converting to DHT

@dht1k @5ARSociety @hanz333_ @BowTiedUM oh wow what the hell .. TT 776 on 300mg of TE I suppose?

@0xexpt @5ARSociety @hanz333_ @BowTiedUM I appreciate the response I’m on 300mg test and noticed my total t is only 776 when it’s over 1k on 180/wk. DHT ester must not be showing on my labs like @hanz333_ said

@dht1k @5ARSociety @hanz333_ @BowTiedUM Blood test itself was late April of this year Tbh, I actually felt pretty good

@0xexpt @5ARSociety @hanz333_ @BowTiedUM Haha - awesome anecdote. Did you feel like shit? When was this?

@dht1k @5ARSociety @hanz333_ @BowTiedUM Well, for what it's worth, while I was doing PCT (had to quite cold turkey without all the necessary tools), was doing 5mg of their DHTP EOD, did blood test like 4-5 weeks in ; TT was 62 and DHT 75 kek so def legit

@hanz333_ @5ARSociety @BowTiedUM Did they really? I’ll delete if so. Wasn’t tryna be dramatic What does that mean for my result you think?

@dht1k @5ARSociety @BowTiedUM They said something about the ester not showing up on bloodwork, I can’t really say much about it but this is some DHT no ester.

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@TheFelixArnold @celestialbe1ng

"fat makes you fat" "carbs make you fat" "don't eat carbs together with fats, RAnDlE CylCE!" all bullshit. eat carbs and fats together. just don't eat the wrong carbs and fats. the randle cycle mainly applies to palmitic acid found in animal saturated fats. if you eat loads of saturated fats (butter, lard, tallow, etc.) with carbs, you will get fat and your energy will drop. eat carbs with unsaturated fats (olive oil, avocado oil, nuts, etc.) and you will be able to burn both carbs and fats. your metabolic flexibility will skyrocket.

@AntiDoc yo doc, appreciate the knowledge - how come you prefer eq over primo in off season?

Sometimes you don’t need a deload, you don’t need time off, you just need to go to the gym a few days per week, catch a stupid ridiculous pump, then leave. You can’t expect that to be the best growth you’ll ever see. You shouldn’t be running a bunch of gear in hopes that you’ll make up for the lack of regimented training. But if this is really going to be something you do for life, there will be seasons of family matters to tend to, demanding times at work, low motivation, or whatever the case may be. Keep it fun. Keep the signal to your body that you’re training. Feed your mind the habit. And it will always be easier to crank things back up. Extended time fully off begins the downward spiral that turns you into the fat guy saying “I used to bench 405 in my day”

@doctormorphh still running micro dose accutane?

Me sitting at my desk after taking 20mg d-amphetamine since i was up all night draining my lymph because i put too much vitamin E and royal jelly on my population pudding producers.

@zacsmithfitness does eq make you rich

After achieving a 1% physique I can tell you that if you apply the same level of focus and dedication to a business, you will be able to do 6 figure months, guaranteed.

@BowTiedUM @AntiDoc @grok @5ARSociety post your physique

Honest observation All the bloodwork/reports ive seen suggested ERa sides and underdosing Both very concerning, but neither seem to be your issue Your decision was very poor and your symptoms suggest it's more likely low e2/blocked estrogen receptors So you could have good stuff, could not, either way you have no clue what you're talking about lmao

Prediction: Bioidentical Bodybuilding will become popular Different ratios and combinations of DHT, E2, Pregnenolone and perhaps HC esters will achieve what you'd want from any stack of Test, DHT derivatives, and 19nors It sounds very crazy now, but it won't be

@BowTiedUM @AntiDoc @grok @5ARSociety Brother I am aware. Are you partnered with 5aR? You seem to blatantly ignoring my premise of my responses. The DHT is impure - just as you said. That’s it 🤝

Assuming pharma grade dht e: You do need extra e2 past a certain dosage It's several times more potent at opposing e2 vs mast or primo Without e2 you'll feel like hell, and be weak, flat, and in pain It's all about ratios A group of scientists you insulted for knowing nothing about this, who researched this compound for years, put together a free ebook for signing up in the link ij bio Suggest you read it either way

@BowTiedUM @AntiDoc @grok @5ARSociety Just wanted to experiment with DHT, e2 was low from test and primo which is fine, easy fix. I understand how compounds work, just saying this DHT from 5aR is not pure. There’s multiple experiences on here saying the same once past a certain dosage. 2mg/day was chillin

You should probably not touch anything bro You had low e2 on test and primo which is effectively an AI So you you decided to take the most potent SERM androgen mg for mg with AI and other ERa opposition properties Everything you said sounds low e2 You didnt have gyno or moonface?