@JShakes3 @John_Karalis That’s not the point, whatsoever. It’s about shaping what flexibility they will have to build around this core in the next 3-5 years.
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@John_Karalis End of day they were non impact players so I don’t care as a fan. Just think it’s funny saving a billionaire millions of dollars was a point of emphasis.
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I understand some people are upset about this, but don't let the way the Red Sox do business color how the Celtics do business. Boucher, Tillman, and Minott weren't playing. They re-balanced their roster for Tatum's return & made smart biz moves.
Yossi Gozlan@YossiGozlan
The Celtics get under the luxury tax by trading Chris Boucher, Josh Minott, and Xavier Tillman. They've now gotten: -Under the second apron: 2033 pick isn’t frozen -Under the first apron: can sign anyone in the buyout market -Under the luxury tax: one step toward getting out of the repeater tax -$325 million in savings -Future trade and spending restrictions unlocked
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@maine__gretzky @StoolGreenie They can field what should be a better team than they currently are with Tatum back + some supplementary pieces in 26/27, whilst staying under the tax. And in the process set themselves up to really go big in 27/28 and beyond.
That’s literally having your cake and eating it.
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@StoolGreenie I’d only want the flexibility to factor in if something catastrophic happens. If the core is healthy, they should field the best team possible, regardless of tax. Having prime Jays on your team isn’t something to take for granted.
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I wouldn't say strictly financial. Also opened up a pathway to convert Amari (which is good!)
In terms of the repeater, it's also too early to worry about that imo. For all we know, they can fit additions into the $21M of space they have.
It doesn't sound like a lot, but contracts are going down. Say you re-sign Vuc for $10M or under a year or find a $15M center and then a $5M piece etc. They can still improve the team and stay under....or they could decide to go over if a bigger star hits the market
What matters, is the flexibility to do whatever presents itself
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@StoolGreenie Removing those 3 players was strictly financial. In a vacuum, I’m not worried about that, but if it’s an indication that they want to get out of repeater tax then I’m worried.
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@IamTheFawb @blake_noell @celticsblog @yaxelmuse Why not?
They have Tatum coming back, a promising (and cheap) core of young guys & will have ways to strengthen the team after Vucevic expires.
They’re already good, they’ll be even better with Tatum. No reason they can’t stay under, still compete then set up to go big again.
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@blake_noell @celticsblog @yaxelmuse I agree with you overall but you gotta be under the tax 2 years in a row to reset the repeater which I don't see happening
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Can’t wait to see “tax savings” in a Celtics jersey. He’s got so much upside. All the billionaires talk about him constantly. 🤷
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@PatsFam69 @StoolGreenie They’ve been cutting money all year whilst their most expensive guy has been on the shelf and yet they are tied for a 2-seed…
Maybe a little clue in there that it isn’t just about spending the most money and that Brad/Joe know what they’re doing.
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@StoolGreenie I mean Brad cutting money is literally a fact I don’t agree with him saying the team isn’t better Vuc fits better than Simons but he’s been cutting money all year
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None of this is true btw
GreenishCoast@GreenishCoast
@PatsFam69 @StoolGreenie Oh you’ll get jumped on for being real with these people, they don’t want to hear it It’s clear as day ownership made Brad cut salary to save them money, thats all these trades were, didn’t make the team a lick better and cost assets to do it.
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@clemsontiger488 @KeaganStiefel Troy Aikman is not a minority owner of any team.
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@KeaganStiefel Nobody would care if Aikman said he was rooting for the Cowboys. And he’s a minority owner, something like less than 10%. Bitch move by Brady
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Tom Brady saying he doesn’t have a dog in the fight is cowardly and rightfully has people disappointed, but more than anything it just makes him look like a dweeb…
Yes, it’s the correct answer considering his ties to the Raiders/FOX, but no one would have batted an eye if he just said he was rooting for the Patriots.
He’s become a weirdo PR robot, and deserves to be slammed for it.
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@KeaganStiefel He’s just doing what the Raiders, Fox & the league office have told him to do now that all his Patriots ceremonies have been rushed through.
If he wants to keep his two very lucrative gigs, he has to toe the line. And that’s neutrality.
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Update: I was recording a pod, while the C's signed Amari Williams. So, I completely forgot about that. They have one spot open.
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What is Brad up to? Dealing Boucher and Minott opens up two roster spots. 🤔🤔🤔
Shams Charania@ShamsCharania
The Boston Celtics are trading Josh Minott to the Brooklyn Nets, sources tell ESPN.
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@BOSSportsGordo It’s got nothing to do with Drake Maye & his ego and everything to do with his $375m deal with Fox & his $220m stake in the Raiders!
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I honestly didn’t expect such big reactions to the Brady thing, he’s basically stayed neutral about the Pats since he retired outside Gillette ceremonies. Nothing new.
I wish the dude would root for his old team like most legends do. But the competitor in him wants to be our *only* guy, Drake has taken some attention and love away from TB.
Kind of a shitty way to act? But also he brought us 6 SBs so it’s hard to get too hung up on anything he does tbh.
Karen Guregian@kguregian
Robert Spillane said “personally it makes me sick” hearing Tom Brady say he doesn’t have a dog in the fight
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@wfbermudo @UK_Patriots I half joked about this yesterday but fans right now are clamouring for Maxx Crosby… If Brady was openly pro-Pats this week and that deal actually happened in the offseason owners would be complaining and filing grievances left right and centre.
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@djh1203 @UK_Patriots let’s say he says he’s rooting for Pats, come SB - people will still say “oooh he’s rooting for Pats, his commentary is bias, yada-yada”. Regardless of what he answers he will be scrutinized,I think he just made the best “business decision” answer to avoid conflict of interest.
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The Brady stuff is a little sad.
I would be intrigued to see if he approached a Bucs Super Bowl in a similar way.
What has been nice is some of the cult favourites coming out (e.g. Tedy & Vince) and being overtly pro Pats because they find it odd how distant Tom is being.
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@Pfitz777 @bwwasea @ProFootballTalk Do you not find it odd that they crammed a HOF ceremony, jersey retirement & statue in 2 years?
Seems to me the NFL, Raiders & Fox gave them a window to get all this done where he could be openly pro-Pats then he has to be strictly neutral if he wants to be owner + in the booth.
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@bwwasea @ProFootballTalk This was him and he was a part owner of the raiders when he said it.
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Vince Wilfork isn't a fan of Tom Brady claiming he doesn't have "a dog in the fight" for Super Bowl LX: "If you're a Patriot for life, you know what it is. Don't give me that political bullcrap." nbcsports.com/nfl/profootbal…
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@wfbermudo @UK_Patriots People struggle to separate business from the sporting/emotional side.
Thought it was a bit rushed they waived the Pats HOF waiting period, retired #12 and built a statue all in like 2 years, but makes more sense now. They needed all that done so Brady could (publicly) move on.
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@djh1203 @UK_Patriots 100% this!!, people are so in their feelings these days to not understand this, a little comprehension on his business situation is the key. Nowadays, if your answer is not what I want to hear my feelings is hurt 😂, we need to get back to a world where other perspective matters
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@javnndz @UK_Patriots Remind me which network was paying Kraft hundreds of millions as an analyst?
They aren’t comparable situations.
The NFL & Fox have bent over backwards to justify having an active owner in the booth. Him being openly partisan towards another team is a headache they don’t want.
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@djh1203 @UK_Patriots Somehow that didn’t stop Robert Kraft MAJORITY owner from openly rooting for Brady to win the Super Bowl in 2021 even though him winning made Kraft look bad. Enough with the excuses for Brady his comment was some BS
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@hk2sports @KeaganStiefel Brady has 375 million reasons to maintain neutrality, has to worry about conflict of interest as a minority owner of another team, who also happen to be in the process of hiring the Seahawks OC.
Only the dumbest of the dumb can’t understand why Brady has to stay out of this.
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@KeaganStiefel he’s (rightfully) mad that brady said he doesn’t have a dog in this fight, said he should be rooting for pats
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@Topgangstatroll @DomGonzo12 They literally had the 4th most passing yards in the NFL without what most would consider a WR1.
McDaniels offense is always built around having a deep group of weapons and spreading the ball around. Nothing to do with 2005 or Brady, it’s working *right now*.
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@DomGonzo12 Because pats never seen us have a WR1 other than Moss and just because we lost they think we can win a Super bowl without one . Pats fan still think it’s 2005 and we got Brady .
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I'll never understand how people arent sold on a perennial top 10 WR.
No brainer if he's available
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@3lessar_ @realkaralynch @PatsPlanet_ I’m pretty sure there’s some kind of quiet truce between Brady, the NFL, the Raiders & Fox… he got to have his statue & HOF ceremonies and say all the pro-Pats stuff he likes, but after that they draw a line under it and publicly has to appear neutral.
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@realkaralynch @PatsPlanet_ Everything Tom does is magnified better to stay neutral. Imagine the slippery slope if he reveals his Fandom
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All I’m saying is if you’re really “a Patriot for life” then it’s time to be a Patriot. We’re in the #SuperBowl. Now, I get it.. Tom Brady is a commentator. He’s also a minority owner of the Raiders. He “has to stay neutral”.
But man… it’s just disappointing to see.
GO PATSSSS
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@mattstdream @TheNickRudman sir, sir, no negativety here. We are in the Super Bowl lol
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I have a hard time imagining the Raiders getting more in trade value than the Parsons trade.
Yahoo Sports@YahooSports
Maxx Crosby's time with the Raiders is most likely DONE, per @JayGlazer 👀 What kind of haul would the five-time Pro Bowler get in the trade market? 🤔
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@PabloAnchondo8 @L68413lawr___ @DomGonzo12 But at the same time, was half joking and yeah shouldn’t expect any favours as such.
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@PabloAnchondo8 @L68413lawr___ @DomGonzo12 Think Vrabel would smooth that over, plus wouldn’t be in meetings etc. with Josh.
Get your point re. Brady. Think from a Fox/Raiders perspective he almost tries too hard to show he doesn’t have bias towards the Pats. His statue/Pats HOF ceremonies show his true colours.
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Imagine the Patriots win the Super Bowl and then flip our 1st and 2nd round draft picks for Maxx Crosby and AJ Brown.
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SleeperEagles@SleeperEagles
NFL Insider @DMRussini predicts that the #Eagles would get a second-round pick in exchange for WR AJ Brown. (Via @PHLY_Eagles)
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@PabloAnchondo8 @L68413lawr___ @DomGonzo12 Will be interesting to see what Crosby’s market is given how bad his relationship with LV seems to be, 29 when the season starts, injury etc.
Throw them a 1st, the KC 4th rounder (just outside the top 100) and maybe a guy like Ponder?
I dunno, perhaps Brady can do us a solid.
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@djh1203 @L68413lawr___ @DomGonzo12 Yeah trading both seems honestly unheard of, but if it’s for AJ and Crosby I wouldn’t mind… thing is I don’t think one first lands you Crosby without giving up that second. That’s a top 3 edge rusher (2nd most important position behind QB)
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