@AyyybelMejia @SCShipyards Everyone lives, just press red. Don’t pick the suicide button. It’s that simple
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doodlezhap 🇺🇸
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doodlezhap 🇺🇸
@doodlezhap
Gen Z. Secularist. Classical liberal
Katılım Nisan 2018
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@SCShipyards Red does not guarantee survival. It requires that 100% of participants press red for everyone to survive with no margin for error. Blue only needs 50%+1. The odds of everyone living are better.
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Red guarantees survival.
Blue does not.
If you can't comprehend that, that's a "you" problem.
just matt@questionableway
red is an unbelievably phenomenally disgustingly selfish decision and i do not have theory of mind for anyone who would choose it
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@ryanptrick0615 @GetOuttaHeah @AbeLopezAuthor If people choose the suicide button that’s up to them, that’s not on me
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But by picking red, you know people are going to die. It’s just not you. The only way people don’t die by pressing red is if every single person in the world pressed red. This would never happen. So by pressing red, you are in fact saying you are ok with others dying. As long as it is not you.
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Rational people know intrinsically that everyone should press red, it eliminates any question of anyone dying
Irrational (emotionally-driven) people will be compelled to press blue because “it’s the right thing to do”
And the more you try to convince them otherwise the more they’ll dig in
Tim Urban@waitbutwhy
Everyone in the world has to take a private vote by pressing a red or blue button. If more than 50% of people press the blue button, everyone survives. If less than 50% of people press the blue button, only people who pressed the red button survive. Which button would you press?
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@varrock Im liberal and pressing the red button. Pressing blue is playing Russian roulette, and then trying to emotionally blackmail everyone else into playing it with you. It’s not collectivist to do that
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Conservatives will press the red button
Liberals will press the blue button
Tim Urban@waitbutwhy
Everyone in the world has to take a private vote by pressing a red or blue button. If more than 50% of people press the blue button, everyone survives. If less than 50% of people press the blue button, only people who pressed the red button survive. Which button would you press?
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@galvertez @Ruesavatar It’s not even just self preservation it’s actually collectivist to choose red. Choosing blue is risking your neck out and putting burden on your team to try to “save you” by choosing blue. That’s not collectivist at all. Do your part for the team, vote red
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@Ruesavatar i would fist bump every survivor and congratulate them on selecting the correct answer. self preservation is natural and good and i approve entirely of everyone choosing red.
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Nobody dies. We discover we unanimously voted red. Then the real existential dread kicks in lol.
bird@oliveegger
I want a dystopian novel about the aftermath of a red victory. Characters navigating an “every man for himself” society, maybe the main character is someone who virtue signaled blue but chose red in the end
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@JEmCeeKnight @sbarna @UsingLyft There’s no “teams”. It’s play Russian roulette, or don’t play Russian roulette
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@sbarna @UsingLyft You're changing the scenario
"hey bro, vote for my team and if we win we kill all the other team"
"uh but what will they do, kill us?"
"nope"
"Then... why vote to kill them??"
"Because logic!"
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Why would anyone just not press red lmao. What would make you go there and be like “yeah I’m gonna play this crazy game and risk it all by pressing blue?” Why? Why would you do that
Aella@Aella_Girl
im confused by people saying the right answer is pressing red. the good outcomes are 51% of ppl press blue OR 100% of people press red. the second is obvs way less likely
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@gowronseyes @_TheMaverickk @UsingLyft Because it’s a choice dilemma that tests your morals and values, so we assume that everyone involved is a moral conscious agent making the same choice as us
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@BlkSheepTheory @mreasycredit @UsingLyft @plasticolicious And more importantly, we know that our choice isn’t influencing others. A red vote doesn’t take a spot away from someone, they can choose red too
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@mreasycredit @UsingLyft @plasticolicious We don’t control whether millions of people make mistakes or coordinate.
So the question is: what do we do given that uncertainty?
Red guarantees survival regardless of others.
Blue only works if enough people get it right.
Our lives are on the line. The logical answer is red
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@clark38569 @chatsh3 @ImNotOwned It’s a moral dilemma so I approach it assuming everyone is a conscious moral agent
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@Bittrekt @pxielovee Voting red isn’t killing anyone. There is no limit to the number of reds, everyone is free to save themselves. Voting blue is gambling your life for no reason
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@doodlezhap @pxielovee Red voters vote aware they will kill people if they win
Blue winning kills nobody
Now which option is less sociopathic to defend
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@ryanptrick0615 @GetOuttaHeah @AbeLopezAuthor Im not okay with them dying. I want them to hit red and be safe. But the scenario leaves it up to them. If they want to gamble their life, that’s up to them, and I don’t feel responsible for it
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@GetOuttaHeah @AbeLopezAuthor The only way you hit red, is if you don’t care about the lives of others. If that’s the case, then ok. But I’d never hit a button where I live if others die.
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@HandyGingerGal @AbeLopezAuthor Putting yourself in harms way is not collectivist
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@AbeLopezAuthor Individualists v. Collectivists. Personal responsibility v. Group responsibility.
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@shellyscallions @Kamots_A @ImNotOwned Almost everyone will choose red and the ones who don’t chose suicide
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@doodlezhap @Kamots_A @ImNotOwned Every crime, overdose, etc in the world would be paltry, literally nothing compared to if even 5 percent of the world is killed in this scenario. Everyone will not choose red, and if red wins the world will fundamentally change for the worse
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@SashoTodorov1 Putting yourself at risk of death and then trying to blackmail the rest of society to face the same risk under the chance of saving you is not “pro social”
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I love how even in a community with a significantly higher proportion of edgy tpot "game theory nerd" ZIRPlords "just be pro-social like a normal human being" still wins.
Tim Urban@waitbutwhy
Everyone in the world has to take a private vote by pressing a red or blue button. If more than 50% of people press the blue button, everyone survives. If less than 50% of people press the blue button, only people who pressed the red button survive. Which button would you press?
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@TheANRP @coconut_jpgg Not quite. It's
red: I do not die, others might die
blue: I might die, everyone might live
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"WAHHHH! I lived... BUT IT WASN'T MY VOTE!!!!"
vittorio@IterIntellectus
why would anyone even press blue?!?
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@udiWertheimer There is nothing noble about harming yourself and using emotional blackmail against others. Everyone vote red, everyone lives. Humanity W
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almost nobody who has children would press red unless they know for an absolute fact that their kids pressed red
if you think there’s even a 5% chance your kids pressed blue, you will risk your life to improve their odds even by a tiny bit
to take this a step further most women are probably hard-wired to press blue as a motherly instinct anyway, even if they have no children. so at minimum you have a 25% baseline for blue right there, which completely tips the odds
so i think blue actually wins by a landslide if this was the real world and not a social media app for incels
in other words humanity always had the biological programming to ensure blue wins
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@Brainwormw33336 @Kamots_A @ImNotOwned You’re right it’s logically analogous to the blue button. But the woodchipper example shows the flaw in blue button reasoning for most people
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@doodlezhap @Kamots_A @ImNotOwned If I have compete and total immunity from the woodchipper in that situation, then how is that any metaphysically different than pressing the blue button? Sounds like you just want to be melodramatic for no good reason.
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@shellyscallions @Kamots_A @ImNotOwned Everyone will not abstain from fentanyl. Everyone will not choose not to murder. Humans do wild shit, I can’t control that. There is no reason not to choose red. Everyone choose red, everyone lives
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@doodlezhap @Kamots_A @ImNotOwned Everyone will not pick red. That's a guarantee. You have to be ok with many people dying and the world likely plunging into a hellscape post-red win.
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@Simmy16242170 Sucks to suck just everyone vote red and everyone lives
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You need >50% blue for everyone to survive. You need 100% on red for everyone to survive.
bird@oliveegger
“If everyone just pushes red they survive” Well if everyone just pushes blue we all survive too so what now
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