Johnathan Butler

@needGod_net What about relying on your hubris and private interpretation and then calling it assurance of the Holy Spirit?

Relying on your obedience to get you to heaven, is to try and save yourself. It won’t work.

@RuslanKD @JPuncut @Alex_Ortodoxie The glass house being all of Holy Orthodoxy? The alleged selling of a sacrament? A random Parish Council in Nova Scotia defining what Member in Good Standing means for their parish? Like what are you actually saying? Who are you criticizing?

@dreadedthug @JPuncut @Alex_Ortodoxie My presupposition is don’t throw stones from a glass house.

Maybe consult your boy 😂😂😂 youtube.com/shorts/tvwLtZr…

@RuslanKD @JPuncut @Alex_Ortodoxie Ruslan is your presupposition that Orthodoxy is selling salvation? A yes or no would suffice

@JPuncut @Alex_Ortodoxie Is this an EO church or nah? 10% of your gross annual income 👀

@RuslanKD Mihret or Agen vs Horn or Gavin please. Something tells me they’ll still decline…

@willspencer Clement, Chrysostom, Augustine… you know. Sacramental, liturgical Christians

@dreadedthug Does your church have an infallible teaching on what that verse means?

When you have a bad doctrine of justification you have a bad doctrine of sanctification.

@RuslanKD James 2:24 “You see that a person is justified by works and not by faith alone.” Is the bible contradictory? Do you have bad/ahistorical exegesis? Are you emphasizing one scripture over another for personal reasons? What gives?

For it is by grace you have been saved, through faith—and this is not from yourselves, it is the gift of God— not by works, so that no one can boast. - Ephesians 2:8-9

@RuslanKD would Wes Huff, Trent Horn, or Gavin debate Mihret?

@needGod_net @economic_eth Are you being intentionally dishonest or unintentionally? Would you be willing to repent of purposefully spreading lies about what you just said?

@economic_eth “A Baptismal service fee of $500.00 is required” So if someone asks “How did I get saved?” Their answer would have to be: “I was required to pay $500 so I could get baptized”

Orthodox Church: “Baptism is necessary for salvation” By the way, it will cost you $500 USD. Screenshot from Orthodox Church in New York.

@TejasRanger1836 Acts 2:41-42 says independent church where???

Acts 2:41–42 Acts 2:47 Acts 4:23 Acts 6:1–6 Acts 11:22–26 Acts 13:1–4 Acts 14:23 Acts 14:27 Acts 15:22–23 Acts 15:30–31 Acts 18:22 Acts 20:17 Acts 20:28 Acts 10:43 Acts 13:38–39 Acts 15:7–11 Acts 16:30–31 Acts 18:27

@goodcharls @OldTumorX It’s a Kabbalistic Matrix mirror projection. An icon of the unconscious base instinct “lizard” brain that is dormant amongst the collective. To be famous or influential is to be the “right person at the right time”. I.e. American Pie, Knocked Up, Euphoria, MTV

@OldTumorX This is really all you need to know about hollywood. That and all the “victims” are all perpetrators until of course it all went mainstream now they’re all calling the things (that they themselves did) out pointing at somebody else LOL all hollywood goes to Hell.

Probably gonna read this every morning for a month

@MattisRedacted @VinceBlack11 If I go to a Masonic library and 90% of the books are gay gnostic esoteric pseudo spiritual garbage will you admit to being a liar or no?

@dreadedthug @VinceBlack11 Your first mistake was thinking any one mason speaks for all of us.

The difference between Jay Dyer and myself is that I want him to go to heaven

@MattisRedacted @VinceBlack11 Your greatest apologists and public defenders literally do.

@dreadedthug @VinceBlack11 You’re conflating the civic acceptance of other belief systems with the syncretism of those belief systems into Christianity. Masonry doesn’t affirm deism.

@PastorAwes @cthocas Which men? What did they believe? Why do you believe said men in regards to scripture but not anything else that contradicts your ahistorical theology?

Wrong. The word of God is eternal. I was inspired by God, given to men, and preserved by God. “For ever, O LORD, Thy word Is settled in heaven.” Psalm 119:89 KJV “For the prophecy came not in old time by the will of man: but holy men of God spake as they were moved by the Holy Ghost.” 2 Peter 1:21 KJV “The words of the LORD are pure words: As silver tried in a furnace of earth, purified seven times. Thou shalt keep them, O LORD, Thou shalt preserve them from this generation for ever.” Psalm 12:6-7 KJV

Why am I a Baptist? Why not Catholicism or Orthodoxy? Because I believe the Bible. I don't care about church fathers, ecumenical councils, or creeds. I care about what the Bible says.

@paleochristcon Haha

@dreadedthug David wood.

I know a bunch of these "Apologists" behind the scenes. Publicly they act like saints and don't swear, never drink, and are very pious. Then you get together with them behind the scenes and they cuss like sailors and talk tons of shit. I dont change behavior because of a camera.

@frater_dt @MattisRedacted @VinceBlack11 Not concerning yourself with the truth is what we’re arguing. You’re claiming that there isn’t one, or at least that it’s up to man’s own understanding to decide for himself. And I’m saying that man has nothing to do with Christs sovereign Kingship over all. That’s the point.

Freemasonry doesn't concern itself with what views specific religions consider "heretical". It's an affirmation that the man joining is not an Atheist; not an affirmation of any deism or belief in any specific dogma pertaining to deity. Once again, give specifics for things you're claiming and stop lying. You do not know what you're talking about.

@MattisRedacted @VinceBlack11 Affirming general deism as an acceptable worldview is anti-Christ because it denies Jesus’s ultimate sovereign position as King, Messiah, and one way to the Father.

@dreadedthug @VinceBlack11 Freemasonry isn’t a religion, it originated as a Christian fraternity, and you are fully allowed to be a Christian as a Freemason.

@MattisRedacted @frater_dt @VinceBlack11 Weak Reddit tier strawman

@dreadedthug @frater_dt @VinceBlack11 So God didn’t create the universe? You sound like an atheist bro

@frater_dt @MattisRedacted @VinceBlack11 Epistemologically speaking, “You must believe in a Supreme Being” is an affirmation of general deism as being a legitimate worldview rather than a heretical one. Thus, dogma.

No, requiring belief in a Supreme Being is not a doctrine. A doctrine asserts specific content about the nature of that Being, its attributes, or its revelation to man. Freemasonry makes no such claim whatsoever. The requirement is a bare theistic landmark, deliberately nonspecific and left entirely to the individual conscience of each Brother. That is the opposite of doctrinal imposition. Likewise, "making good men better" is not dogmatic. "Good man" is understood in the worldly sense, insofar as the Fraternity can determine through our investigation process: reputation in his community, no serious criminal history, and basic moral fitness as a citizen. "Better" refers to the symbolic tools and allegories we provide, which each man may take and use in conjunction with his personal faith as he sees fit. Improvement is measured in his individual estimation, not by any collective Masonic judgment or theological standard. Our rituals draw on Western philosophical traditions, including the cardinal virtues from pre-Christian sources, strictly as moral and symbolic pedagogy. These are presented as supplements fully compatible with any man's private religion. They do not constitute doctrinal assertions about religion itself. You have repeatedly asserted that regular Freemasonry is a Gnostic heresy, yet you have cited no specific ritual text, landmark, or obligation that teaches Gnostic cosmology, dualism, demiurge doctrine, or salvific secret knowledge. Until you produce those precise references, you're just lying and assigning the title "Gnostic" to things willy-nilly similar to how Christians assign the title "Satanic" to things willy-nilly when they don't understand them. I'm a Freemason who has actually gone through the degrees. When you accuse me of lying while demonstrating no firsthand knowledge of our obligations or landmarks, the irony is clear. You genuinely do not know what you're talking about and are just parroting talking points you've heard which is why you speak in sweeping generalizations without any specifics (because there aren't any specifics which you can draw from that can't be easily refuted).