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@JakobSanderson Shipley is good at his job yet a grade A moron if you were to directly tie what he says to fantasy outcomes

Shipley is an S-Tier beat writer but our jobs aren’t the same A good beat report can gives us an educated guess of a team’s current plan. But when the report states the plan is for multiple players to get work… our job is to decide who will take better advantage of that work

@ashcollazo24 @ffdataroma a round 1/2 turn pick producing at a R3 level is nowhere near a disaster

@ffdataroma Keaton was handpicked by McDaniel and Vidal is valued highly by that staff. Like I don't think dudes are grasping the potential early ADP disaster here. Round 3 yes all day. Round 2 turn? Hell nah

The “volume and role is all that matters” rebuttals with Hampton don’t make much sense to me. Yea sure, volume is obviously important, but why are we acting like every RB in this range of drafts isn’t going to have a top-tier workload? Most of them in similarly strong or stronger offenses too. Hampton is also probably as susceptible as any of these early RBs, if not more, to being closer to 60% of the touches rather than 75%. Drafting an RB this early, you’re theoretically shooting for top ~3 RB upside, which I struggle to see Hampton hitting based on ability and potential legitimate thorns in Mitchell/Vidal.

@eeveejee Try this one!

Testing out some new features

@JakobSanderson it’s not going to be pretty but for once i want to be in on the forced usage of an obv utility back (30% Rachaad)

If you’re a best ball bro who’s not into *either* of Rachaad White or JCM what’s your reasoning? I’m currently sitting on 47% White post-draft and am stunned he’s not been a major riser. But I totally get the case for JCM as well Just confused there’s no WAS RB in top 9 rounds

@ffdataroma whether actively being used or not, the meta spreads through streams, posts, etc. and gets copied/strengthened the entire topic of adv rate/proj play that these tools lean towards is fascinating. i think they're building terrible ROI teams even if adv rate is high, personally

@eeveejee I think that’s for sure true and the 3qb builds are definitely more of an advance rate/projection play. But I do see it pretty often in my actual drafts (not just on here) and would imagine the overall sample of drafters using those tools is pretty small (probably sub ~5%)

Feel like the 3QB trend on Underdog has gone way too far. If you’re drafting 2 QBs inside the top 8 or 9 rounds, there’s typically no reason to draft a 3rd QB (unless it’s two round ~9 guys like Goff and Kyler, even then it’s up in the air for me). Just way too much capital spent to automatically take an extra dead roster spot per week at the flattest scoring position, with 2 stronger QBs already on your roster. You’re just naturally limiting your upside when you allocate too much capital to QB, taking that extra dead roster spot weekly when you don’t need it (2 QBs that more than give you enough weekly scoring) and not giving enough capital to the other positions on your roster. The law of diminishing returns comes into play.

@thecatdadff you shouldn’t be drafting two QBs who face each other in W17 anyway….

Just in case you weren't already aware (I wasn't), the two Week 17 matchups where the teams share the same bye week are PIT-TEN (Week 9) and JAX-WAS (Week 7). I can't imagine best ball drafters will be falling all over themselves for correlation in the PIT-TEN matchup, but the JAX-WAS game could be a completely different story. I get that it is only one week, so the risk of one low score in the middle of the season isn't as important as the payout at the end. Still, being aware could help mitigate some potential pitfalls that may arise if we're focusing more on correlation than bye weeks. My biggest takeaway is probably just making sure I add a 3rd QB to TLaw/JDaniels teams in the event that option ever becomes available. Generally, I would avoid adding a 3rd QB if I had sunk that much capital into the position already, especially in contests that only feature 18 rounds. WR and TE could potentially become a problem on those teams as well.

@49ers_Access @JewishMcCaffrey thanks for the engaging repartee

@eeveejee @JewishMcCaffrey Who cares

“This year’s Puka?” There’s no such thing. But here’s what I can tell you. Ricky Pearsall is going to outscore every one of these WRs. A year 3 breakout for a guy that is heavily discounted because of fluke injuries, on a team that desperately needs to limit CMC’s workload. Buy.

@49ers_Access @JewishMcCaffrey just say you're a homer and Pearsall didn't crack 1k yards in 5 years of college

@eeveejee @JewishMcCaffrey Just say you don’t know ball are applying the same label to every 49ers draft pick cause you wants to be miserable

@49ers_Access @JewishMcCaffrey garbage prospect overdrafted by the franchise most infamous for it

@eeveejee @JewishMcCaffrey Imagine saying Pearsall was a bad prospect🙄

@BallCoach_Nate @areevaderchi bc he actually only had 43/400 yds, they re-signed Higbee, Ferguson should take over a larger share in Y2, and drafted Klare to boot. one of the worst values on DK. just take 4 TEs and there's plenty of better ones available on DK even after Parkinson

@areevaderchi @eeveejee I personally love the upside for the rookie TEs who are pass catchers and why are we shaming Colby P like he didn’t catch 50 balls for 500 yards last year. I think it’s enough of a floor to compete

Chat, did I cook?

@iwasinverted8 just a puppy, but might hunt!

Love going to move to the 1/2 turn due to correlation. The Love/Bowers drafters these first few weeks are elated.

@boxroxtops my 11th bbm 😢

@eeveejee Possibly, I just feel like ppl overdo it sometimes. Like for example someone drafts Herbert, yes you want Ladd…. But do you really need QJ, Tre, and Gadsden?

Hot take: I feel like a lot of ppl overstack in bestball

@boxroxtops @areevaderchi what do you think is the downside risk? there does reach a level of saturation where cannibalization can occur (like the extreme LAC example) & you also do not want to sacrifice ADP value to stack, but all things equal, the correlated WR/TE is simply a higher leverage play

@areevaderchi @eeveejee Of COURSE you want to stack and have game stacks for WK17, no one is saying that isn’t important because it’s huge, I’m saying it feels like ppl overdo do it sometimes.

@Diablo_II where are these projected coming from? bc these are some spicy takes

Directionally Accurate™️ expected advance rates and scores are available in beta (production) for pre-draft contests

@RyanJ_Heath did Burden's 65 yard flea flicker come in a 2-WR set?

WR YPRR leaders in 1- and 2-WR sets (min. 60 routes, incl. playoffs) Puka Nacua - 6.25 (lol) Luther Burden - 5.05 Jaxon Smith-Njigba - 4.84 Amon-Ra St. Brown - 3.60 Davante Adams - 3.54