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@esj199

Katılım Şubat 2022

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.@esj199·9h

@dryapologist @WriterJohnBuck @ThoughtfulSaint God is identical to FatherSonAndHolySpirit The Father and the Son are identical to God So the Son is identical to FatherSonAndHolySpirit and is tripersonal So the Son is simultaneously one person and three persons

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Caleb@dryapologist·10h

@esj199 @WriterJohnBuck @ThoughtfulSaint The Father and Son are identical in regards to their being. They are not identical in regards to their personhood. Nothing is left out in regards to the Son’s being.

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Thoughtful-Faith@ThoughtfulSaint·6d

So God is not one things but 3 things. You can’t hold this view and hold to a coherent classical theism.

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I would just like to let all the (*cough* heretical *cough*) non Trinitarians know that the persons of the Trinity are truly distinct.

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.@esj199·11h

@BeeW1736886 @raulofmustachio @KintsugiJin @Nate452g @dortner1 @ThoughtfulSaint Apparently you can't read. It says "cause of all things." If evil exists, God caused it. You're just too stupid to admit simple things.

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Bee W@BeeW1736886·11h

@esj199 @raulofmustachio @KintsugiJin @Nate452g @dortner1 @ThoughtfulSaint This quote says everything is governed by God. We know that God has authority over us and that he grants us everything we have. We know he grants us the ability to choose. So this quote is irrelevant. Please show the quote about Eve not having the ability to choose

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Thoughtful-Faith@ThoughtfulSaint·3d

Does James White worship a different Jesus? “God has the perfect right to do with His creation (including men)… sinners upon whom God’s wrath comes… they are said to have been specifically “prepared for destruction.” That is their purpose.” - James White

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.@esj199·11h

@BeeW1736886 @raulofmustachio @KintsugiJin @Nate452g @dortner1 @ThoughtfulSaint You can't follow a simple argument - God is the cause of all things. I just quoted it. - Evil exists. - So God is the cause of evil. Or evil doesn't exist.

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Bee W@BeeW1736886·11h

@esj199 @raulofmustachio @KintsugiJin @Nate452g @dortner1 @ThoughtfulSaint This doesnt do away with the choices we make including Eve. We know God grants us the abilities that we have. So please show me what Calvin says about Eve making choices. Support your claim please. Dont make this about me.

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.@esj199·11h

@BeeW1736886 @raulofmustachio @KintsugiJin @Nate452g @dortner1 @ThoughtfulSaint good, as the privation theory of evil says, then something like rape would be a little bit good but lack so much goodness that you hate it People are so disgusted by rape that I guess they're unwilling to take the privation theory of evil to its conclusion en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Absence_o…

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.@esj199·11h

@BeeW1736886 @raulofmustachio @KintsugiJin @Nate452g @dortner1 @ThoughtfulSaint It would make more sense to say that evil doesn't exist Actually, that seems compatible with what you've said, that evil is a lack But of course, lack/absence isn't present in the world. That's absurd. So evil isn't present in the world. x.com/BeeW1736886/st… If everything is

Bee W@BeeW1736886

@esj199 @raulofmustachio @KintsugiJin @Nate452g @dortner1 @ThoughtfulSaint 1) The cause of an evil will is from the lack of a good one. If your will is not that of Gods, then you have an evil will. Theres nothing nonsensical about it. We know that one mistake can lead people down a dark path of further mistakes. Thats what happened with Adam and Eve.

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.@esj199·12h

@BeeW1736886 @raulofmustachio @KintsugiJin @Nate452g @dortner1 @ThoughtfulSaint cite a source where Calvin says that God is only the cause of some things and where he explains what god (or something) is the cause of the rest

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.@esj199·12h

@BeeW1736886 @raulofmustachio @KintsugiJin @Nate452g @dortner1 @ThoughtfulSaint God is the cause of all things When he foresaw Adam falling, he was seeing something caused by his creative act You're attributing ridiculous things to Calvin like that God isn't the cause of all things Since you're the one who attributes ridiculous things to him, you should

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.@esj199·12h

@BeeW1736886 @raulofmustachio @KintsugiJin @Nate452g @dortner1 @ThoughtfulSaint do what God says So it was arranged that Adam would be imperfect

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.@esj199·12h

@BeeW1736886 @raulofmustachio @KintsugiJin @Nate452g @dortner1 @ThoughtfulSaint "Nor ought it to seem absurd when I say, that God not only foresaw the fall of the first man, and in him the ruin of his posterity; but also at his own pleasure arranged it." ccel.org/ccel/calvin/in… Did God create a perfect man? No, a perfect man would

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.@esj199·13h

@BeeW1736886 @raulofmustachio @KintsugiJin @Nate452g @dortner1 @ThoughtfulSaint It's like you're calling Calvin stupid, so why bother If he says God can stop anyone from sinning by changing their heart but he already intended to make a perfect woman and failed, he could fail with the others. Eve isn't special. So you imply that Calvin contradicts himself.

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Bee W@BeeW1736886·13h

@esj199 @raulofmustachio @KintsugiJin @Nate452g @dortner1 @ThoughtfulSaint Again youre still saying Calvin said this and that. So show me what he said about Eve. Why are you avoiding this?

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.@esj199·13h

@BeeW1736886 @raulofmustachio @KintsugiJin @Nate452g @dortner1 @ThoughtfulSaint Calvin says God can stop anyone from sinning If they were like Eve, he wouldn't have that power If he tried to use that power on others, they could do something else like Eve did. Since he already intended to make a perfect woman and failed, he could fail on others.

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Bee W@BeeW1736886·14h

@esj199 @raulofmustachio @KintsugiJin @Nate452g @dortner1 @ThoughtfulSaint esj199 "Calvin's God programmed Eve to sin" "Ok can you show me where he says this?" esj199 "...well...uh...y-y-you're a dummy"

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.@esj199·14h

@BeeW1736886 @raulofmustachio @KintsugiJin @Nate452g @dortner1 @ThoughtfulSaint could do things he didn't want. Does God have that power over Eve or not, regardless of whether he uses it? Make up your mind, dummy.

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.@esj199·14h

@BeeW1736886 @raulofmustachio @KintsugiJin @Nate452g @dortner1 @ThoughtfulSaint It sounds like you're calling Calvin mentally disabled If he said that God is sovereign over all but Eve's disobedience didn't follow from a nature caused by God, then God wouldn't have been able to tell us why Eve didn't obey instead. He wouldn't have power over her. She

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.@esj199·14h

@BeeW1736886 @raulofmustachio @KintsugiJin @Nate452g @dortner1 @ThoughtfulSaint If she believed Satan, then that was caused by whatever nature she had, a nature which was caused by God. Of course they don't say that anything in her nature wasn't the result of God's will. This isn't difficult, okay. One thing leads to another. You don't understand that?

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Bee W@BeeW1736886·15h

@esj199 @raulofmustachio @KintsugiJin @Nate452g @dortner1 @ThoughtfulSaint Show it then that it was set up that way. From what I read from Calvin he believes that Adam and Eve could have chose to obey and should have obeyed. So show me where he says that they were set up to disobey

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.@esj199·15h

@BeeW1736886 @raulofmustachio @KintsugiJin @Nate452g @dortner1 @ThoughtfulSaint God does understand it, so there aren't 50/50 odds Why would it be 50/50 anyway? Why not 60/40? But for God, there are no odds. It's determined by his plan, how he made her mind. x.com/BeeW1736886/st…

Bee W@BeeW1736886

@esj199 @raulofmustachio @KintsugiJin @Nate452g @dortner1 @ThoughtfulSaint Human choices are not a 50/50 coin flip. Youre mistaking odds with decision making. God is clearly not surprised since he knew this was a decision that Adam and Eve could make.

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Bee W@BeeW1736886·15h

@esj199 @raulofmustachio @KintsugiJin @Nate452g @dortner1 @ThoughtfulSaint Ok now youre asking me how Eves mind works. Im not Eve, I couldn't tell you all that ran through her mind. We only know from what was said. I knew you were being intsntionally ridiculous with this scenario.

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.@esj199·15h

@BeeW1736886 @raulofmustachio @KintsugiJin @Nate452g @dortner1 @ThoughtfulSaint What caused her mind and agency to respond to Satan in the way it did rather than another way? This isn't complicated

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.@esj199·15h

@BeeW1736886 @raulofmustachio @KintsugiJin @Nate452g @dortner1 @ThoughtfulSaint What caused her to believe Satan? You're extremely slow

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