John Buck 🇺🇸

@alphasymp @FiggyTater @WhenBeliefDies Here's a short articulation of what I call the participation theodicy. There's links in the follow-up, of short papers I've written as well as a couple discussions I've had with people going over it. twitter.com/WriterJohnBuck…

@walkhumbl @Latterdaytruth If there is anything visible or invisible in heaven, it either IS God, or is created by God. If there was pre-existing matter there would be something visible in heaven that was not God nor created by God. That matter would be uncreated.

@WriterJohnBuck @Latterdaytruth How does that rule out their being pre-existent matter? I don’t see how that follows.

The Bible does not teach creation ex-nihilo.

@_namori_fan_ Where does the Bible say that there cannot be a pope?

i cant be a catholic because im convinced catholicism contradicts the bible

@SpeedWatkins @darwintojesus So then it does seem that models of God have empirical content to them, insofar as they predict things differently than other hypotheses.

@WriterJohnBuck @darwintojesus Not quite right. If suffering and evil confirm a hypothesis incompatible with theism, like a hypothesis of indifference, and theism is no more intrinsically probable than such a hypothesis, then it does follow that suffering and evil disconfirm theism.

Proof the earth isn’t round:

@SpeedWatkins @darwintojesus If models of God have no empirical content then no instance of unjust suffering or evil can function as disconfirmation of God.

@darwintojesus The obvious difference will be that when we apply that standard, presumably an empirical standard, to a round Earth model, it will confirm it. There is no such (empirical) standard for any model of God. Models of the Earth have empirical content, but models of God don't.

A new study has shown that Raccoons are showing early signs of domestication The University of Arkansas found that urban raccoons have smaller snouts, a sign of domestication syndrome.

@elyawda What made you think Catholicism is false?

And I am still Christian. I’m an LDS Christian again. My religion is not Mormonism. My religion is Christianity and my denomination of Christianity is Mormonism or the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints.

@Lachlan40342295 @orthobrohammer So would Jay say that The Son’s nature is NOT generated, or that it WAS generated?

@WriterJohnBuck @orthobrohammer Jay replied with the correctly nuanced version tho

Because I said this, somebody asked Jay Dyer about this on a stream two days ago. It's apparently "basic theology" that the Son is a creature. Did he "misspeak" again?

@Lachlan40342295 @orthobrohammer That’s fair. Someone could initiate a response with ‘yeah’ to acknowledge the question without intending to answer in the affirmative. However, since the question was ‘Is the Son’s nature generated?’ everything Jay said seemed to express an affirmation. Or he dodged the question.

@WriterJohnBuck @orthobrohammer No because I don’t know about your dialectic of English but in mine you can start a sentence with ‘yeah’ and not have it be some total or absolute affirmation of what the interlocutor led with; Jay seems to clarify properly. Sorry if I seemed hostile btw

@LatFilosof @thesaviorweneed @Alfredovich65 @PhilosopherJoeC Okay, we can say ‘propositions that are true of every conceivable world’ then, if there is some controversy in saying a proposition is true ‘in’ some possible but non-actual world.

@WriterJohnBuck @thesaviorweneed @Alfredovich65 @PhilosopherJoeC But the proposition isn’t *in* that non-actual world, it’s just *about* it.

Is mathematics objective or subjective? Say why below if you can.

@Lachlan40342295 @orthobrohammer You're right. He says 'come from the Father.' Which -since when asked if the Son's nature is generated, he said 'Yeah'- we can take this to imply Jay thinks the Son's nature is generated by the Father. Thanks for correcting my quotation.

@WriterJohnBuck @orthobrohammer He said ‘come from the father’ you liar

@thesaviorweneed @Alfredovich65 @PhilosopherJoeC I have no qualms with calling it that.

@WriterJohnBuck @Alfredovich65 @PhilosopherJoeC Why call it a possible world instead of calling it a conceptual world

@Lachlan40342295 @orthobrohammer He said that 'everything the Son has, his person and his nature, is generated'.

@orthobrohammer Do you lack basic reading/listening comprehension? He never said the essence was generated, his personhood is. This is the patristic teaching

@thesaviorweneed @Alfredovich65 @PhilosopherJoeC Propositions can be true even in non-actual worlds. A proposition is true in a non-actual world just in case were that world actual, that proposition would be true in it. For instance we can say that 'all unicorns have horns', since if a world had unicorns, they'd all have horns.

@WriterJohnBuck @Alfredovich65 @PhilosopherJoeC There aren't any propositions in a possible but not actual world right?

@SoftwareEUG @PhilosopherJoeC We’re talking about mathematical truths.

@WriterJohnBuck @PhilosopherJoeC Yeah. It's all you've (I've, we've) got. I don't know how to get out of the trap either. Obviously it's objectively wrong to torture puppies for fun. Fortunately fellow language users on Earth will all agree to yell at anyone who disagrees when I assert that.

@amberavtvmn @WesleyLHuff Catholic means universal. It is what Christians referred to themselves as, and is mentioned in the Nicene creed. Protestants affixed ‘Roman’ to those in union with the bishop of Rome so as to distinguish them from the term.

@WesleyLHuff Can someone briefly tell me : is there a difference between Catholic and Roman Catholic? (I’m new to Jesus lol don’t judge)

I'm often asked why -- given my study in both the Bible and church history -- I am not Roman Catholic. I recently sat down in front of my camera and outlined some of why that is. youtube.com/watch?v=DpNgxs…

@TheCatholicEngr You could use one of your fifty freebies during childbirth.

As a woman, this is an easy no What if you happen to be giving birth during those 30 seconds Your child instantly dies even if you don't

@farmingandJesus Are you counting all non-denominationalists as one denomination?

There are less than 200 denominations. I have no idea why they repeat this very easily refuted full blown lie.

@SoftwareEUG @PhilosopherJoeC It’s a principle of epistemology that you prove the unclear by what is clear. It’d be foolish to try to prove a controversial claim by something just as controversial, but much smarter to try to prove it by something that is uncontroversial.

@WriterJohnBuck @PhilosopherJoeC Objective arguments, as usual, rely on saying, "see something that everyone agrees on is true!" Show us something people don't mostly agree on that's irrefutable and then we'll be somewhere.

@thesaviorweneed @Alfredovich65 @PhilosopherJoeC Propositions which are true in every possible world.

@WriterJohnBuck @Alfredovich65 @PhilosopherJoeC What is that? The property of an object, an idea in the mind of God?