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@felipeargento

ethereum, L2s, altVMs. cofounder @cartesiproject. opinions are parroted from smarter people! based in europe

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Augusto de Franco@augustodefranco·
Tá crescendo. Ouçam o Armínio Fraga.
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Felipe Argento 🐝🐧@felipeargento·
I’m both working super hard to enjoy the time humans still have something to bring to the table and slowmaxxing life to learn the skills to live in a post work era. Turns out this is way better, should’ve been doing it all along!
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Felipe Argento 🐝🐧@felipeargento·
The fact that the stock went up 20% likely means that other companies will copy it, right? Scary
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Felipe Argento 🐝🐧@felipeargento·
I’m concerned about AI generating fabricated data. I’m equally concerned about people doing the same, now that the barrier is so low!
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Felipe Argento 🐝🐧@felipeargento·
Is Ethereum crashing because all the devs are off playing TBC?
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Felipe Argento 🐝🐧@felipeargento·
At least the markets close tomorrow so we can rest over the weekend, right? Right???
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Danilo Tuler 🐧@dtuler·
This once again corroborates to @cartesiproject thesis, a L2 framework with a real differentiation, a powerful alt-VM for powerful applications. Stay tuned.
vitalik.eth@VitalikButerin

There have recently been some discussions on the ongoing role of L2s in the Ethereum ecosystem, especially in the face of two facts: * L2s' progress to stage 2 (and, secondarily, on interop) has been far slower and more difficult than originally expected * L1 itself is scaling, fees are very low, and gaslimits are projected to increase greatly in 2026 Both of these facts, for their own separate reasons, mean that the original vision of L2s and their role in Ethereum no longer makes sense, and we need a new path. First, let us recap the original vision. Ethereum needs to scale. The definition of "Ethereum scaling" is the existence of large quantities of block space that is backed by the full faith and credit of Ethereum - that is, block space where, if you do things (including with ETH) inside that block space, your activities are guaranteed to be valid, uncensored, unreverted, untouched, as long as Ethereum itself functions. If you create a 10000 TPS EVM where its connection to L1 is mediated by a multisig bridge, then you are not scaling Ethereum. This vision no longer makes sense. L1 does not need L2s to be "branded shards", because L1 is itself scaling. And L2s are not able or willing to satisfy the properties that a true "branded shard" would require. I've even seen at least one explicitly saying that they may never want to go beyond stage 1, not just for technical reasons around ZK-EVM safety, but also because their customers' regulatory needs require them to have ultimate control. This may be doing the right thing for your customers. But it should be obvious that if you are doing this, then you are not "scaling Ethereum" in the sense meant by the rollup-centric roadmap. But that's fine! it's fine because Ethereum itself is now scaling directly on L1, with large planned increases to its gas limit this year and the years ahead. We should stop thinking about L2s as literally being "branded shards" of Ethereum, with the social status and responsibilities that this entails. Instead, we can think of L2s as being a full spectrum, which includes both chains backed by the full faith and credit of Ethereum with various unique properties (eg. not just EVM), as well as a whole array of options at different levels of connection to Ethereum, that each person (or bot) is free to care about or not care about depending on their needs. What would I do today if I were an L2? * Identify a value add other than "scaling". Examples: (i) non-EVM specialized features/VMs around privacy, (ii) efficiency specialized around a particular application, (iii) truly extreme levels of scaling that even a greatly expanded L1 will not do, (iv) a totally different design for non-financial applications, eg. social, identity, AI, (v) ultra-low-latency and other sequencing properties, (vi) maybe built-in oracles or decentralized dispute resolution or other "non-computationally-verifiable" features * Be stage 1 at the minimum (otherwise you really are just a separate L1 with a bridge, and you should just call yourself that) if you're doing things with ETH or other ethereum-issued assets * Support maximum interoperability with Ethereum, though this will differ for each one (eg. what if you're not EVM, or even not financial?) From Ethereum's side, over the past few months I've become more convinced of the value of the native rollup precompile, particuarly once we have enshrined ZK-EVM proofs that we need anyway to scale L1. This is a precompile that verifies a ZK-EVM proof, and it's "part of Ethereum", so (i) it auto-upgrades along with Ethereum, and (ii) if the precompile has a bug, Ethereum will hard-fork to fix the bug. The native rollup precompile would make full, security-council-free, EVM verification accessible. We should spend much more time working out how to design it in such a way that if your L2 is "EVM plus other stuff", then the native rollup precompile would verify the EVM, and you only have to bring your own prover for the "other stuff" (eg. Stylus). This might involve a canonical way of exposing a lookup table between contract call inputs and outputs, and letting you provide your own values to the lookup table (that you would prove separately). This would make it easy to have safe, strong, trustless interoperability with Ethereum. It also enables synchronous composability (see: ethresear.ch/t/combining-pr… and ethresear.ch/t/synchronous-… ). And from there, it's each L2's choice exactly what they want to build. Don't just "extend L1", figure out something new to add. This of course means that some will add things that are trust-dependent, or backdoored, or otherwise insecure; this is unavoidable in a permissionless ecosystem where developers have freedom. Our job should make to make it clear to users what guarantees they have, and to build up the strongest Ethereum that we can.

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Felipe Argento 🐝🐧@felipeargento·
Cartesi will be fine. Out of @VitalikButerin ‘s list of what L2s should be we hit (i), (ii), (iii -for computation) and (iv). It’s the payoff from taking the hard route and differentiating early. Harder to build, but bigger probability of adding real value . @cartesiproject is built to be future proof. Its important enough to add value to wherever ethereum’s roadmap goes!
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ROKC Capital@rokcbiz·
@felipeargento Yesterday, I cleaned out all the dead x accounts I was connected with and asked myself the same question. The vast majority was ads.
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Felipe Argento 🐝🐧@felipeargento·
Was X always +90% marketing content and I was just blind to it or did it get much much worse recently?
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Rafael Zattar
Rafael Zattar@ZattarRafael·
É muito melhor morar na pior casa em um bairro de rico a morar na melhor casa em um bairro de pobre. FATO OU FAKE?
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Claudio Silva 🐧@claudioengdist·
New alpha of the Cartesi Rollups SDK release (v2.0.0-alpha.26) just dropped — still aimed at core devs/testers. But the early migration to Bun (runtime + package manager + bundler) and the focus on fast, cohesive tooling make me very optimistic that the final SDK will be both performant and technically exciting to build with 💻🚀
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Felipe Argento 🐝🐧@felipeargento·
My ideal X algorithm would amplify users who post less often.
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Felipe Argento 🐝🐧@felipeargento·
Does anyone else feel this cognitive dissonance? On one hand, you believe exponential tech progress (especially AI) will make most things (including money) obsolete soon. On the other, you’re investing long-term, living a normal stingy life, pretending you’ll understand the world five years from now. I guess the biggest dissonance is being happy in the middle of it al, but that one I'm happy with having.
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Shaheen Ahmed 🐧
Shaheen Ahmed 🐧@riseandshaheen·
Visualising how a fraud-proof system works is tough. We need tools and UIs to see what happens at each step. Something like etherscan is great, but there are details to these algorithms that can remain complex and buried under the mechanics. Here, I demo a simple tool to: - visualise the proof that a participant submits to Permissionless Refereed Tournament(PRT) @cartesiproject 🐧 - understand the data flow, when & how to trigger a dispute ↔️ - sneak peek at the visualisation tool(wip), it looks great already 👀
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Cartesi@cartesiproject·
Catch @dl_research’s interview with Co-Founder @felipeargento at @EFDevcon on Cartesi’s journey from an AI marketplace to a RISC-V-based execution layer, Stage 2 secured by the PRT fraud-proof system, and Ethereum-first, trustless approach to building systems no one controls. ↓
DL Research@dl_research

Honeypots usually spell trouble, but @cartesiproject used one to test its rollup security. At DevConnect we spoke with cofounder @felipeargento about Stage 2 decentralisation, Linux-based execution and the move toward permissionless fraud proofs. dlnews.com/research/inter…

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