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@NeleHelena When doctors have no idea how to reduce symptoms, some shift their focus to the patients thoughts about their symptoms. Sensible doctors are mostly thinking in terms of acceptance reduces suffering. Highly suggestible doctors believe thoughts are the cause rather than an effect

Somatic Symptom Disorder is a psychiatric diagnosis that makes no sense. So it basically comes down to you having physical symptoms + excessive thoughts about those symptoms. But who decides if your thoughts are excessive? Most people probably think a psychiatrist can do that. 1/

@useless_priest Strong argument can be made that covid being the cause increased stigma, given covid rapidly became a running joke for majority of public. Extraordinary lack of social awareness that they got this so backwards.

That's the thing I don't get with the whole "Governments are covering up LC by trying to relabel it ME, POTS etc." theory. LC was stigmatised from the word go. That COVID was the cause didn't insulate it from the stigma. It's a fundamental facet of complex chronic illness.

@NoHealthNoFun @tiredguineapig At least they are lower IQ than the old ones. Can't attract strong talent anymore. Collapsing field.

@tiredguineapig I wish! But they keep making new ones!

@davidtuller1 @x3r0gx4 Incredible scientific breakthrough! Just think of the far reaching implications. Stage 4 cancer? No problem. Once you overcome false recovery beliefs and learn to understand recovery as rapidly advancing tumors, pain, paralysis and imminent death, you are fully recovered.

Now Trudie Chalder says "recovery from CFS" doesn't actually mean absence of symptoms and getting back to regular life but is more about coming to terms with chronic illness. Huh??? virology.ws/2026/04/03/tri…

@useless_priest One might say Wessely was a true pioneer in this particular niche of shameless patient exploitation for career advancement. If O'Sullivan has seen further, it is by standing on the shoulders of morally bankrupt giants.

I totally see the appeal of this as a career path. It takes very little groundwork, and almost no scientific rigour. But you get coverage and money hand over fist.

@GregoryGregman @EntropyChase @ErikCumps They can expect to be treated like criminals by a large percentage of the public until such time as they either allow a full independent audit or find an intermediate host.

@frmlss @EntropyChase @ErikCumps Nope, but it’s not enough to sink the leading natural origin theories, and it is not *positive evidence* supporting any lab leak theory, which you still are not even offering much less defending. You’re JAQing off again. Literally.

Since the COVID origins debate picked up steam recently, I decided to write a shorter summary of the basic facts we have available. I noticed that not everyone has been caught up to date with these details. Hopefully this improves the discourse! @entropychase/6-facts-for-a-more-informed-debate-on-covids-origins-1c8c1b01ca6a" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">medium.com/@entropychase/…

@GregoryGregman @EntropyChase @ErikCumps Just to be clear your very serious position is the intense efforts at obfuscation and blocking transparency of related research that virologists should be falling over themselves to disclose to clear their names is unimportant?

@frmlss @EntropyChase @ErikCumps I’m treating the seriousness of your responses with a correspondingly appropriate amount of seriousness.

@GregoryGregman @EntropyChase @ErikCumps This coming from a guy who makes dumb jokes about masturbation while talking about a lack of seriousness. Pretty typical zoonati tactics and lack of self awareness.

@frmlss @EntropyChase @ErikCumps I’m matching your energy. You’re not giving me a whole lot of substance to work with here.

@GregoryGregman @EntropyChase @ErikCumps Well done pontificating about seriousness I guess. Truly a great intellect.

@frmlss @EntropyChase @ErikCumps You’re also demonstrating, in real time, my point about the lack of seriousness and substance of your position.

@GregoryGregman @EntropyChase @ErikCumps Projection much

@frmlss @EntropyChase @ErikCumps Go JAQ off somewhere else. It’s disgusting to do that in public.

@GregoryGregman @EntropyChase @ErikCumps Not clear enough for any virologist close to this research to push for an independent audit apparently.

@frmlss @EntropyChase @ErikCumps It’s not, but those are all facts that must be explained by any lab leakers theory. To claim that any collection of explanations of those facts is simpler than natural origin overcoming whatever methodological flaws in the leading theories is being alleged is clearly wrong.

@GregoryGregman @EntropyChase @ErikCumps So true. That's all that mainstream lab leak theories claim. How very serious of you.

@frmlss @EntropyChase @ErikCumps “The virus leaked from the nearby virology lab.” Your theory not containing much detail doesn’t make it the simplest explanation, it just makes your theory unserious.

@EntropyChase @ErikCumps @GregoryGregman Yeah occams razor says lab leak. Nothing complicated about it. Conspiracies are unusual but cover ups are simply normal expected human behavior, especially when it's easy and the stakes are high.

@ErikCumps @GregoryGregman The LL theory isn't particularly complicated though, it simply suggests that a CoV escaped one of the CoV research facilities in Wuhan. We've seen research escapes of CoVs before, including multiple escapes since 2020 alone...

@RandoRobby42 @cremieuxrecueil Yeah those Olympic level athletes who suddenly can't walk up stairs. Probably hypochondriacs tbh

@cremieuxrecueil I suspected as much. I got bit by a tick, got the bullseye rash, and got the antibiotics. Some said "you'll be affected anyway". I was anxious, but in the end, nothing. I also notice that "Long Covid" sufferers seem to fit a certain profile...

Whenever you look, most of the people who get diagnosed with Lyme disease (LD) probably have something else. Lyme disease is much less common than being misdiagnosed with Lyme disease. In this Maryland-based study, 84% of the Lyme disease referrals were not really Lyme disease.

@alexboge @Biorealism But let me guess claiming covid was definitely a zoonotic spillover without finding an intermediate host is science because reasons.

You listed a bunch of papers questioning details of zoonotic models. None of them show a lab origin. That’s the gap you keep trying to hide. Critiquing how many spillovers occurred is not evidence of a lab leak. You still need: a virus in the lab an infected worker a breach Without that, this is just “maybe it’s not X, therefore it’s Y.” That’s not science.

COVID-19 was a zoonotic spillover. Early cases cluster around the Wuhan market. Environmental samples there tested positive. Genetic data shows multiple early lineages consistent with repeated animal-to-human transmission. That’s how outbreaks start. We’ve seen it before. The lab leak story has no direct evidence. No virus. No accident. No paper trail. Just speculation stacked on “but what if.” At some point, repeating a claim with zero evidence doesn’t make it a theory. It makes it a zombie conspiracy. Undead and forever seeking what it lacks: brraaaaiinnss

So...you say you want to study physiology.

@LucienDorman @useless_priest Guess doctors already have that with SSD/MUS etc. Issue isn’t lack of training, it's bad training where doctors are taught to psychologize what they don't understand. Unfortunatly it's a cultural rot built into medicine for centuries which has a large army of defenders.

I don’t debate that point at all. Simply stating we need an umbrella term that then folds into structuring the proper med school education and specialty focus for doctors/researchers, etc. I think there’s is more strength in numbers. If we combine these illnesses that clearly share distinct features, under one umbrella, it becomes a bigger problem, more budget and more attention. Things get taken seriously.

Is there an obvious reason that EDS and ME/CFS advocacy almost never seem to intersect?

@LucienDorman @useless_priest Not sure about calling something unknown complex. It's making an assumption about something we don't know. Quite typical that simple unknown things appear complex until they are known.

We need an umbrella for all these diseases. It should be structured like cancer. Where you have the different forms of cancer underneath the umbrella term. Complex multi-systemic diseases (CSD’s) or something like this… Needs to become a new speciality/category studied within medicine like asap.

@sash_andy @AhmadRehanKhan He is sharing a medical fact that would surprise most people alright .. just not the one he thinks.

@AhmadRehanKhan Share a medical fact that would surprise most people “Adverse effects of psychiatric drugs are weaponised by psychiatry as symptoms of their psychiatric diagnosis” No shit Sherlock.

A long list of “allergies” to multiple common psychiatric Medications in a patient's chart, could be subtle clinical clue pointing toward underlying Borderline Personality Disorder.

@JeromeAdamsMD We move forward by launching a proper criminal investigation using the full force of the law to raid labs and seize relevant records and by treating scientists who try to impede the investigation as criminals obstructing justice.

I’m not being snarky here either. Truly trying to understand so we can come together. Yet it seems the loudest voices saying we were too obsessed with Covid… 5 years out are themselves still completely consumed by Covid. How do we move forward? 🤔

I can't square the cognitive dissonance of those who insist we wildly overreacted to COVID... yet also obsess over “lab leak” + “gain-of-function.” If a lab accidentally released a virus no worse than a bad cold, then don’t we have much bigger fish to fry? 🤷🏽‍♂️