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@yacineMTB @jeffdo Sure, let’s recompile the entire app every time I get a different idea

@jeffdo with prints

i think carmack is wrong about the need for debuggers just print

@cmuratori @ukslim Because my 80 year old dad, who barely can enter a URL into his browser, would not figure it out otherwise. "User experience" encompasses people whose mental capacity is not the same as yours or mine.

Even if that was the case, why would you need to enter them into different fields?

I love how multiple people in this thread somehow thought that splitting credit card info into three fields for the user is required for the database to not store 3 of the digits. I just don't even. The level of common sense in the programming world has plummeted to near-zero.

@mikeness any chance you’ll ever do another show as your solo project (not Social D)? It’s been on my bucket list for more than 15 years to see Under the Influences and Cheating at Solitaire live . These two albums changed my life

@alex_toresh @timmisiak Haha. Glad to be of service! As masochistic as it may sound, I actually really miss working on that PDB stuff, it was a lot of fun

@timmisiak I think it was @gamefeast

My sincere thanks to the LLVM maintainer who put this comment in their code. I spent a few hours trying to figure out why my hash function didn't match the PDB until I saw this comment and the strange u16 truncation of the hash function...

@shaun_LAL16 @GergelyOrosz Extremely intricate behavior, subtle bugs. Graphical bugs, and very high pressure to ship fast

@GergelyOrosz Any idea on what’s so different that they don’t write unit tests?

A long time ago, I worked with a sr dev who did not believe in unit tests. I didn't get it. It was only much later I understood where this person was coming from. They worked in the games industry before we worked together. I had no idea just how different that environment was.

@rfleury Google’s DORA research team has published data about this at scale

Is there any actual data which has made people believe that there is some kind of OOP advantage in making “clean and easy to understand APIs”, or are they simply told and then believe that? It seems to be a case of industry wide, corporate-fueled Stockholm Syndrome.

@tritlo @molecularmusing There's plenty that can be done. People can stop using standard library and develop their own library. Someone could explore alternative compilation model that uses a daemon to keep AST of all source files in memory. About 90% of all work compiler does is redundant.

@gamefeast @molecularmusing For sure. Between the metaprogramming and header includes there's only so much that can be done. UE builds could be sped up by avoiding those, but there's a tradeoff between time it takes to develop vs building from scratch (which usually doesn't happen so often)

Let me rant for a second: why do we need 64-core CPUs and >10 minutes to compile a game engine? That's more than 10 hours of CPU work. If you think about it, that's quite insane! Makes me channel strong Muratori/Blow "software is so bad!" energies. There has to be a better way.

@tritlo @molecularmusing Vast majority of the compile time is due to terrible language design choices and an inefficient arcane compilation model

@molecularmusing A lot of the compilation time is due to analysis and optimization of the code. Try running with all optimizations off... the compilation will be a lot faster, but the runtime will be a lot slower.

@bekahkashtan @babybeginner @flamewave7 @RebeccaAVelo @ianmiles They’re offended at being referred to by a word other than their preferred word. Surely you can appreciate that.

"I regard cisgender as a slur." Citing a Swedish study on the ineffectiveness of "gender affirming surgeries," which are statistically proven to increase the risk of self-harm and suicide, Elon Musk is spot on with his remarks that transitioning children does not help to mitigate either self-harm or suicide. Other studies show that the vast majority of children who experience gender identity issues and dysphoria simply grow out of it, given time. I would posit that those who do not grow out of it are simply having their confusion re-"affirmed" by their peers and pressured into hating themselves.

@GergelyOrosz What’s your definition of big tech? Is it based on market cap, employee count, TC, or something else?

A company we should add to “FAANG” and make it “FAANNG”: NVIDIA. Incredible what the company did the past years. The only major Big Tech outside Apple that did not do mass layoffs: their business is booming. A remarkable strategy where they profited from all recent tech waves.

@ZubyMusic Please suggest an alternative.

The biggest problem with the economy and financial system is that the money is fake. Our whole society runs on fake, infinite money that's not backed by anything. It's a giant fraud on a global scale that everybody accepts.

@molecularmusing Unfortunately what you just described as bad is literally the core language. The language can no longer be used without the library, so what’s our recourse?

And that's it. I want you to repeat after me: templates are not the problem. Your code structure, putting several MB of source into headers, including layers upon layers of abstraction are. The end.

I need some light programming task to start into the day, so I'd like to elaborate on yesterday's "Boost is bad" rant. I don't want your main takeaway to be "templates are bad", so let's look into this. I do like templates, a lot. I use them a lot in my own codebase. A thread:

@molecularmusing Now consider that most boost devs are on the standards committee and you can see why this language is becoming so terrible

After staring at Boost, Boost MySQL and C++20 coroutines for a few hours, my head spins. What a joyless endeavour. All example code out of date, abysmal compiler errors, templates & auto all over the place - if you like writing code like this, consider using a different language.

@xLaszlo @johncutlefish Did you consider that it is actually extremely hard to run a tech company well, and there are a constrained amount of people that are highly skilled at it. What other outcome is there but to stay?

@johncutlefish I would be more interested why badly run tech orgs stay like that? It costs roughly the same to do it badly but it creates so much waste: frustration, employee churn, low productivity, low output. Bad tech orgs truly shoot themselves on the foot.

@AlexStrook Vampire Survivors is an indie game, costs $3, and gives you 50+ hours of replayable content.

@allenholub It’s called practical concerns of the real world and risk mitigation. I’m Not putting potentially millions of dollars of dollars in revenue on the line for some unachievable perfectionist ideal 🙄

Not deploying on Friday is a huge red flag, indicating a seriously broken process—insufficient testing, for example, a lack of continuous integration and waterfall thinking (deploy many times throughout dev), and most importantly, no culture of quality. Fix all that.

@supahvee1234 @banisterfiend What kind of hoops? Most languages with a reflection system support trivial deep copying. One line of code in python, for example.

@banisterfiend Deep-copying any arbitrary data structure without having to jump through hoops. Deciding when I want to copy/move something or refer to an existing object.

Every time I have to use a programming language that does not support value semantics I die inside a little.

@lemire Someone with no context is just as likely to think that is commented out code. It’s not a good comment except to the original author of the code (which by definition makes it a bad comment). This is what asserts are for.

No, GitHub. This is not "commented-out code". This comment tells the reader that k is equal to b2->arraysize. I am really starting to hate this trend of overbearing static analysis.

@nomanautomata @GergelyOrosz If they’re coasting they would have gotten an even lower rating.

Q from a dev: "The last 3 years I've gotten Exceeds Expectations and I worked really hard this year. However, I only got Meets this time. My manager says HR pressured him to push ratings down for everyone. What can I do?" Be grateful this is as "bad" as things get for you.

@ArguellesYasser @stefan_3d It’s vscode

@stefan_3d Yes... anyday, everyday until GDB gets replaced and then i'll use the new "good" linux debugger

Men will literally add 500 print statements to their code instead of learning how to use gdb.