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@OrthodoxEthos @PageauJonathan Makes sense. Maybe a simple way to make the point is how we use the word "salve" and how that connects to "salvation"

Indeed. We have to define terms first. We must not assume anything about such basic concepts as salvation, grace, church, faith, et cetera. You did this above, explaining the meaning of salvation for the Orthodox — well, actually explained the meaning of the word. Salvation in most languages means healing or health or wholeness. This is why we’ve begun doing live streams just on the meaning of words, the etymology, the usage in scripture.

Following a bit of the Protestant polemics against Orthodoxy recently, and I realize just how difficult it is to communicate the mind of the Church across these lines. A simple example is seeing people confused about whether someone who is not baptised and participating in Orthodox communion can be "saved". Protestant are noticing that there are different answers in their estimation, and so are confused about them. The confusion comes from the belief that being "saved" or not is about "where you go after you die", when for the Orthodox "saved" means being made whole, being healed, being restored to the original purpose God had for us. For this reason, when Protestants see declarations of how communion in the body of Christ is the only way to salvation, they immediately think this is a declaration that all the non-Orthodox are going to hell after they die. When Protestants then hear the very same person who just told them that salvation is in full participation to the body of Christ go on to intimate we have nothing to say about the eschatological finality of any specific soul, it is like a short circuit that many Protestants cannot compute. This is what I could see when @OrthodoxEthos and @Acts17David were discussing and it is what I have seen in @gavinortlund's videos. In a similar vein, when a Protestant says he has the "assurance of his own personal salvation", this is confusing to the Orthodox. Orthodox also obviously have assurance of salvation, that assurance is Christ. He shows us what it means to be made whole and makes us participate in that wholeness. But how can I say that I am "saved" if I see that I am still a wretch, still prideful and arrogant and sinful? So the Orthodox, knowing they are are still sinning, though also knowing Christ has made them grow in the virtues will say something like: "I know that I am being saved." That is I can see that I am being healed, being made whole, being reformed to the resemblence of God. But again, this completely confuses the Protestant who just wants to know what will happen when you die. What side of the fence will you end up on? I am not sure how to get accross these lines, and I feel that unless we can, we will perpetually be talking past each other.

@GusVague Are we sure "dating" isnt the issue? Was modern "dating" the way people were married in history?

My diocese officially recognized the dating crisis in genz including hypergamy it was kinda bleak actually

"We never investigated the rape of white girls because we didn't want to be called racist" "We didn't stop the terrorist blowing up children because we didn't want to be called racist" "We arrested the white boy bleeding to death because someone called him racist" "We didn't release the description of the violent rapist who's still on the run because that would be racist"

To remind everyone what really happened that night: • They cut off testicles and shoved them into the victims's mouths. • They stabbed pregnant women in the womb and raped them. • They beheaded people. • They gouged people's eyes out. French authorities worked overtime to keep these details away from the public. And apparently, the mastermind behind this atrocity will soon walk, because European leaders are cowards and traitors who will never do the right thing.

Yes I know you gangraped a child but you've been Very Good Boys during your trial for gangrape and so despite the fact that you are too stupid to understand consent I will reintegrate you into society

So true! Female rage IS when you make yourself mad about something that isn't true.

@WrasslinRyan @LeoKearse At that point, why not present the judge to them as their new object to victimize? The judge clearly believes they cant be held responsible for what they do, so let the judge be with them.

@LeoKearse Judge also said they were essentially too retarded to understand consent, same shit we get with third worlders who do these crimes.

>Gypsy travellers commit premeditated gang rape of a child. >It lasts 90 minutes. >They film the attacks, laugh at the child they're raping, encourage their friends to rape her, mock the child asking “why do you look sad?” >They know they won't be punished so they rape an even younger child at knifepoint, cut her clothes off with knives. >The child victims are left petrified and wanting to die. >Judge praises the gang rapists' behaviour in court. >Judge lets them walk free saying “I should avoid criminalising [the rapists] unnecessarily”. >Gives them "youth rehabilitation orders". >Other gang rapists now know that activist judges have effectively decriminalised the violent gang rape of British children. >None of this is accidental.

@crpandemonium Go and physically throw out your politicians

Es acojonante cómo suelta el cuchillazo a la altura del cuello. Menos mal que lo esquiva. Van a matar, directamente. Por una puta cartera. Sólo eres carne de cañón para los políticos que defienden esto. No son menos criminales que el que suelta el cuchillazo.

The showrunner turned Homelander into Trump so this ending was just Eric's liberal murder fantasy of killing and humiliating Donald Trump. All the left fantasizes about is killing their political opposition, it's the only logical conclusion to being a filthy communist.

this is literally a million times worse than george floyd

@Be_Busta @Rach4Patriarchy How did the apostles see Jesus speaking to Moses on the mountain at the Transfiguration if Moses had died thousands of years earlier?

Better question. If, as EO suggests, no one can judge themselves or others as to whether they are saved or not, that is, who enters heaven or hell, then why do EO's state that certain saints are in heaven for them to pray to? Isn't this a logical contradiction, and wouldn't this mean that it's possible to be praying to people in hell accidently?

🚨BREAKING- protestants are hearing of humility for the very first time.

Your CITY is NOT "walkable" until it is safe enough for an UNACCOMPANIED elementary schooler to take the shoelace express from city limits to downtown. If it's not walkable for an 8 year old child, it's not walkable at all. Is this standard too high for you? Too difficult?

@laynehobbamock @BarbarianBunny @extractcamper Lol that's a funny one ngl

@BarbarianBunny @extractcamper That’s because you have the innergaya

the Orthodox church is a living fossil of medieval tyranny. for centuries they locked the Bible away in dead languages, and burned translators at the stake…. all to consolidate political power and scam their congregants. these institutions serve Mammon, not Christ.

This Chud the Builder case is more important than people realize. If found guilty, that means the American government has ruled that black people are legally allowed to assault White people for saying a word. This is a monumental decision for the 1st and 2nd Amendment.

@DroppingTrooth @sarahdunham23 youtu.be/jkmh68urI6A?si…

@genericuser76 @sarahdunham23 If you share the link, I will watch it 👍

If faith alone saves, then why are prots so pressed about Catholics and orthodox? We have faith…how are we any less saved than you?

@DroppingTrooth @sarahdunham23 There is a good video from Orthodox Shahada that shows the Divine Liturgy comes from the same liturgy that was practiced in the Old Testament times.

@genericuser76 @sarahdunham23 I will say, I don't think the church is just like Acts. They were small house churches (or in synagogue) without such an established liturgy. And I have no way to verify the traditions remain unchanged. I find it unlikely. Doesn't make them bad/wrong, but probably not as claimed

@DroppingTrooth @sarahdunham23 Okay, I get that. I respect your desire to be open and learn about it. I hope you will continue to learn about the early church and the church fathers and see how the bible came to be canonized and the tradition it came out of. God bless.

@genericuser76 @sarahdunham23 It's something I stay open to, but my relationships, culture, beliefs, & calling seems to be more in the Protestant church. If I became compelled by Orthodox theology or felt called to the Orthodox church, I would consider it. Not an easy change, even so, when you have a family

@DroppingTrooth @sarahdunham23 Then why not become Orthodox? It is the very same church from Acts and the epistles. They've safe guarded the faith and traditions that were given to us by the apostles. It is the fullness of the Christian faith.

@genericuser76 @sarahdunham23 I want to understand, learn from, & consider/weigh/integrate the traditions of my brothers.🤔🤲 I used the Orthodox Study Bible as my main Bible for many years, recommended by my Protestant pastor, who also prays daily with his chotki & reads incessantly from the church Fathers.

@DroppingTrooth @sarahdunham23 Certainly. Why then are we not in one church? Why don't we have the same sacraments?

@genericuser76 @sarahdunham23 If we can't agree on the basics of the gospel in love & humility, then one of us is not reading the Bible properly or has a wicked heart. Understanding that those w/ faith in Christ, his death, & resurrection are unified is a big part of the unity. It's both outside & within us