Gninoked
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Jensen: “Do you want the Wifi password?”
Elon: “I’m good. I own the sat network.”
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This looks suspiciously like the Neurio which got rebranded to the Generac Pwrview... If so it can do more than Tesla is using it for - it can detect and track usage per device. I have one to track solar use vs home use and another to track charging across all vehicles. Great little devices!
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@ChadMoran Is this separating LFP from the nickel (NCA/NCM/NMC) packs? If it isn't... it's not super useful because of the significant differences.
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Now you can see Tesla battery degradation per mile broken down by model year.
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@RobWerksman @ChadMoran S/X have completely different cell chemistry and design, and before 2021 completely different pack design as well. Would still be interesting to see the data.
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@ChadMoran Is there a meaningful difference between the S & X compared to the 3 & Y?
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@SawyerMerritt Pack design looks like it's straight outta 2012/2016 Model S. I'm guessing that's why the charge rate is so low, the cooling in that design is quite poor.
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Lexus has just officially unveiled their new all-electric three row SUV for the US, the Lexus TZ.
• Range: Up to 300 miles
• Two battery options: 77 kWh & 96 kWh
• Peak charging speed: 150kW
• 10-80% charge in 35 minutes
• NACS charge port
• Fake gear shifts with gas engine sounds through the speakers
• 3,500 lb towing capacity
• 0-60mph: 5.1s
• Up to 420 hp
• Quietest cabin among Lexus SUVs
• Forged Bamboo interior trim sourced from Shikoku Island
• Second-row captain’s chairs
• Front passenger & second-row ventilated seats with power ottomans
• One-touch folding second- and third-row seats
• In-cabin fragrance
• Full-screen navigation in digital gauge cluster
• Six Japanese-inspired ambient lighting themes
• 21-speaker audio system
• Heated seats in all seating rows
• Available Dynamic Rear Steering (up to 4 degrees rear-wheel steering)
• 0.27 drag coefficient
• Five regenerative braking levels adjustable via paddle shifters
• Lexus-first 2-in-1 charging port with side-by-side AC/DC connectors
• AC external power supply capability
• Can't self-drive, but has driver assist features
• Overall length: 200.8"
• Wheelbase: 120.1 inches
• Cargo capacity with rear seats up: 13.8 cubic feet
• No frunk
Vehicle goes on sales in the U.S. at the end of 2026. Pricing will be announced later.
I've attached a lot more photos in the thread below:
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@DBurkland Eden Prairie has a couple and the officers say they like them but it doesn't work for everything. They also have a couple Lightnings and a Blazer EV
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Wish the Twin Cities would go this route for their police vehicles
LaoZhu@tomzhu_nz
Police Vehicle Operating Cost Tesla 5yr of $19k, Explorer 5yr of $84k up.fit/comparison/
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@MountainPassEV @brandenflasch I think somewhere between double and triple would match race gas prices. I think it would be possible to do 75kw dispensers and share between 3 people for a day.
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@brandenflasch How do we feel about this price - if it's at a racetrack?
Would you still be offended, or do you think people would reflect on the low utilization and high costs the racetrack incurred?
Asking for no specific reason... 😁
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Literal parkway robbery - $1.50/kWh + $1 session fee is so insane it should be illegal.
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If more invites go out for the Model S Plaid Signature @Tesla should send this guy an invite. He is ready to go!
@elonmusk @tesla_na
Jlemieu1@jlemieu1
@elonmusk @Tesla I'm sorry but I'm pretty mad at Tesla. I just bought what I thought what was the last S plaid. But now I find out there is a Signature Edition. I have bought $600k on high preformance Teslas and I didn't get an invite. Very very disappointed.
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This is what I was sold too when I got my setup (from someone else, not Tesla.) I even pointed out that I thought the sizing was wrong, and provided data that I thought made the case but the engineer said I was wrong and didn't have a good answer why. I didn't have other good options so I went with their suggestion.
In addition to the 1.15->1.25 rule, I also was told there the idea is that the smaller (string) inverters require less power to turn on, and therefore collect more energy during that time than when the inverter clipped. This appears to just be completely wrong - I've not found any data from a system in the last 5-10 years where this would have been good information, maybe 20-30+ years ago when the power electronics were not as advanced?
I did the math after watching the data from my system and determined my inverter was in fact too small to maximize output. I checked with others and found the same issue - the '1.25x rule' is often wrong imo.
I also figured out that no one designing my install paid attention to the ambient temperatures when considering sizing which is shocking given they also live nearby! Given the cold temps, I was clipping on many of the days over almost 9 months, not just the 3-4 they were thinking in the mid-summer. Whoops.
I eventually bought the inverter I wanted originally and swapped it out and found out there wasn't any difference in the turn-on power, and the inverter's <$500 difference in cost was made up in less than two year's worth of extra energy.
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@CalebChamberla6 @waynenilsen They started with and continue to be focused on injection molding.
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@waynenilsen Seems like it, but ostensibly Protolabs is all about rapid prototyping. This should be right up their alley.
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ProtoLabs quoted $1060, 6 to 8 day lead-time. Took a day to quote. 🫠
Caleb (OSH Cut)@CalebChamberla6
The price range for metal parts in the USA spans an order of magnitude. I don't understand what companies are doing. Two parts like this one. 1/4" steel, HR P&O. 12" x 8" x 5". OSH Cut: $178, ships in 3 days (made in USA) Fictiv: $901, 3 days (made in USA or Mexico) Xometry: $1318, 5 days (made in USA) Protolabs: No response to RFQ, will comment if they respond
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@brandenflasch They don't want your truck but they are willing to take it off your hands if you want to give them a bunch of money. Trade-in offers are not statements of value.
Eden Prairie, MN 🇺🇸 English
@Financesimple18 @business It depends a bit on how they define cost, but basically all of the companies selling EVs in the US besides Tesla are doing so below cost.
Douglas, MI 🇺🇸 English
@business Don’t think this is an issue in the United States, never seen car companies sell cars below cost.
Average car cost in America is over $50,000
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China is banning carmakers from pricing vehicles below cost, intensifying its crackdown on a persistent price war that’s engulfed the world’s largest auto market bloomberg.com/news/articles/…
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@brandenflasch I think people understand there's trade-offs to every choice and faster charging doesn't make sense compared to the trade-offs. If there was some magic charge faster button that didn't affect anything else everyone would push it.
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I truly don't understand the people that don't want faster charging - you can always stay stopped longer if you want to!
Kyle Conner@itskyleconner
Based on recent viewer feedback over the last few months, people don’t really care about DC Fast Charging performance Sounds like 30-40 minutes for a 10-80% charge is where people are happy We can do a better job of reflecting the slow charging desire in our coverage
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@Mark_Richards68 @brandenflasch The trade-off is probably volumetric efficiency and cost, not life.
South St Paul, MN 🇺🇸 English
@brandenflasch I personally assume the Chinese are sacrificing battery life for these insane charging speeds. We will know in a few years if that's the case.
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@brandenflasch The most important metric is contribution margin. They need this to get them eventually to positive gross margins.
Eden Prairie, MN 🇺🇸 English
Barely acceptable but certainly not impressive
Coleton Guerin@OutofSpecDetail
Although I think we need a new metric for onboarding energy (I don’t think it tells the whole story) How do we feel about charging 10-80% in 30 min? Do you care, or is this just fine for you? As always, I always want the fastest, but I have a feeling 95% of buyers don’t actually care about charging speeds/times.
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@cybrtrkguy Its designed to show that EVs can be high performance as well... We'd like to take one out and compete with ICE and see how it goes... The Plaid has been excellent.
Eden Prairie, MN 🇺🇸 English
Am I the only one who genuinely does not care about Roadster?
It’s completely unattainable for 99% of car enthusiasts.
It flies, so what? It can break land speed records, so what? It looks pretty in a car show, so what?
It’s a party trick car
I don’t get it
Sawyer Merritt@SawyerMerritt
NEWS: Tesla has filed new trademark applications for its next-generation Roadster, hinting that the unveil is drawing closer. The first application includes a stylized “Roadster” wordmark, while the second includes what seems to be the Roadster’s new design. USPTO filings below:
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@niccruzpatane The 3 pack can't come anywhere near the power of the S pack, so the motors would be wasted. They need a new 3 pack first.
Eden Prairie, MN 🇺🇸 English
Just imagine a Tesla Model 3 with a Plaid powertrain. 😮💨
Ben Schaffer@BenSchafferUP
Plaid powered Model 3 please. Those drive units are too special to sunset.
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@brandenflasch Which is why used is a better option. Avoid new car depreciation and you can see what you are missing by not buying new and choose what to get and what to skip.
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Question for Americans from a dumb Aussie about the Minnesota thing.
Obama used ICE to deport approx 3M illegals, and got the nickname "Deporter in Chief". And he wasn't even voted in on doing that. There were some protests, but nothing even remotely violet or crazy.
Why is now everyone so violet and crazy? Is there any other explanation apart from Orange Man Bad?
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