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Adamların “incorrect estimation” dediği benim için 22 milyon dolar.
Dünyanın en pahalı şirketi olunca ufak meblağ tabii
Mert Susur@MertSusur
evet sorun bizde degil ondaymis
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I don't disagree, but just from the view of mortal ICs then the experience turns into getting these code bases handed over to them one project after another.
The original point in the first tweet was that AIs not doing worse than humans on this, just b/c a codebase was purely written by humans and reviewed by humans it doesn't mean it would be in much better state.
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When codebase is mess, it often leads gradual increase in time to market or defect rates. Those are visible, measurable costs to business, just like adding more engineers to keep up with growing mess without sizable business growth.
If messy code has no impact on the business, it is not wrong to give it low priority (that happens as well)
Actually, all combinations are happening somewhere.
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I always say: What was the last time you inherited a codebase written by humans and didn't say "oh this is a hot mess"?
Kenton Varda@KentonVarda
Yeah exactly. I've reviewed a lot of human code in my career. Every company I have worked at over the last 20 years has been an "every change needs to be reviewed before merge" type of shop. And in the process I've caught an enormous number of bugs and logic errors. Almost everything I review has problems. Reviewing AI code honestly doesn't feel much different to me than human code ever did. Most of the problems I catch feel just like problems I've seen in human code. I feel like the people complaining about AI code quality must never have been in a role where they are regularly reviewing their colleagues' code?
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Goztepe Soyak'in, Atakoy'un 80lerdeki "modern" kisimlarinin, Atasehirin ilk buyuk bloklarinin acildigi zamanlari gordum. Bugun yuzlerine bakilmayacak haldeler. Oysa genc sayilan yasi olan yapilar bunlar.
Ornegin Hollanda, Belcika'da gorebileceginiz ates tuglasi ile kaplanmis evler ve bloklar, Fransa'da ve Belcika'nin bazi bolgelerinde gorebileceginiz dis duvari tas yapilar yillar icinde patina kazanir. Yillar gectikce binanin yasi artmasina ragmen dis gorunusu bakimsiz, pis gorunmez. (USA'de de bu tarzlarda yapilmis pek cok bina var)
Bazi yapilarda WW2 doneminden kalma kursun deliklerinin kapatilmamasinin, bombardiman yanginindan kalan islerin ozellikle o binanin ve sehrin hafizasinin bir parcasi olarak temizlenmemesine ragmen pis gorunmemesinin sebebi budur.
Bunu mantolanmis, sivali, plaka kapli yapilarda gormek zor. Illaki 5-10 yil icinde kararmaya, dokulmeye basliyorlar.
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Yes, overall quality is not purely an engineering decision, but that does not change the fact that many teams inheriting a codebase from another team are unhappy with what they receive. This is not based solely on my own experience either.
Leadership usually focuses on whether a system works, avoids major problems, and meets the relevant success criteria, such as budget, reliability, or delivery speed. The implementation details are often not their primary concern.
From that perspective, a system may appear reliable, while the reality in production is quite different or delivery speed may look good in the short term, but that speed might come from cutting too many corners or overlooking important concerns. The on-call burden may lead to burnout after a few months, or the system may only remain stable because team members are consistently making heroic efforts or to hit their deadlines people might just add more on top of existing mess, that's how you end up with code bases where there are 4 databases, 2 message queues and 4 different caches without a good reason b/c that new tech was the thing that saved the day or that new abstraction was the thing that saved the day. Leaders are happy, business is happy but the codebase is a mess.
My point is that business decisions certainly influence codebase quality, but they are not the only factor that determines it.
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I took that assumption from the sounding of the sentence :)
But I spent almost 15 years in cutting edge tech environment. I would still say the same.
enterprise doesn't automatically imply good quality on anything, in fact you can also see worst examples. just like big tech.
Because quality overall is not an engineering decision. It's a business decision with rational thinking and risk calculation beneath.
Some leaders take explicity decisions and drive it (not necessarily to the best quality, the price of best quality is often way too high for most business to recover financially). They don't bore everyone down with details, they set the direction and measurements for the engineering.
Some other leaders are just plain ignorant and leave it to luck unknowingly.
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Well, I didn’t say this applies to everyone, did I? :)
We live in different worlds. In the enterprise world you’re referring to, you can’t ship a product without proper documentation, support guidelines, and so on. I guess you can’t even implement something without a proper spec. That’s not the case at the majority of big tech companies and startups, so it’s only natural that our experiences differ.
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Generalizations...Generalizations from individual experiences.
While we are at individual experiences, here is mine: An engineer who always thinks the code adopted is always mess is either extremely unlucky, or in an industry where quality has no impact on outcome, or has quite misunderstandings about quality or just a bad engineer (e.g. cowboy coder)
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7 yıl 7 başbakan sonra, bakalım Manchesterism ülkeyi kurtaracak mı
UK Politics Review@UKPoliticsFeed
Andy Burnham has become the new leader of the Labour party. He is expected to take over as British prime minister on Monday. Burnham won overwhelming support from MPs, trade unions, and party branches. He will appoint a new cabinet next week after succeeding Keir Starmer. #UKPolitics #Labour #AndyBurnham
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@mhudack Now I understand why Green's candidate in Tower hamlets said "No DCs in Tower Hamlets!"
Unbelievable 😂
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This also hasn't been updated for the last 2 months, but they also released github.com/xai-org/x-algo… this one after the one you shared.
To my knowledge the goal since the beginning has been rewriting every critical component, so it's normal for the one initially open sourced to be not updated.
In their defence, open sourcing might mean sharing the HEAD every 6 months, it's possibly not that productive to continue developing something like X in the public with day to day interactions.
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So given this history, excuse me if I'm staying far more sceptical than usual that Grok open sourced someting after being caught red handed uploading the full local home folder, codebase, .env files, .git directory without telling devs that the CLI does that
Let's see if this is a real open source or the X algo type of mockery of open source
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Donanım üreteceğiz diye Johnny Ive’in şirketine 6 milyar dolar verip çıkarılan ürün:
Polymarket@Polymarket
JUST IN: OpenAI unveils the $230 “Codex Micro,” a mini keyboard featuring dedicated controls for AI agents.
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Bundan cok guzel Turk Stripe rakibi olurmus, bosa gitmis domain
Andrew Curran@AndrewCurran_
Anthropic, Blackstone, Hellman & Friedman, and Goldman Sachs launched their standalone AI enterprise services firm today. It is named Ode. And it just went live at Ode.com. No announcement from Anthropic yet, probably forthcoming.
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@mhudack You are wrong there, they all have a big expertise in bootlicking 😬
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It's really weird to me that UK government ministers don't need to have any domain expertise for the departments they run.
Kitty Donaldson@kitty_donaldson
EXC: Andy Burnham's team has “pretty much locked in” senior Cabinet picks - Home Secretary Shabana Mahmood is now expected to become Chancellor of the Exchequer - Opponents of Ed Miliband campaigned to stop his appointment as Chancellor. He is expected to be offered Foreign Secretary. - A Labour insider sympathetic to Miliband said his prospects of becoming Chancellor had suffered not so much because of scepticism about his net zero agenda, but because many in the party had not forgiven him for Labour's 2015 general election defeat. - Also in line for Cabinet positions are Louise Haigh who will be in a “beefed up" role as Chancellor of the Duchy of Lancaster, a senior Cabinet Office minister who drives cross-government policy and collaboration. - Former Health Secretary Wes Streeting, Labour’s deputy leader Lucy Powell and former Housing Secretary Angela Rayner are all in line for Cabinet positions. - Cabinet expected to be announced late Monday afternoon
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10 yıl önce bugün amsterdam'da geziyordum, hayatımda ilk defa yüropa turu yaptım liseden bir arkadaşımla. trt'yi açıp izlemiştik, nehrin kenarındaki otel odamızda.
hiçbir zaman gerçek anlamıyla darbeyi hissetmek nasip olmadı yani, olayın çoğunluğu tiyatro mu değil mi bilmiyorum ama ömer halisdemir'e büyük saygı duymuştum. insan bile bile ölüme gider mi? gidiyormuş vatanı için.
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@mhudack People can’t always move tho especially due to school etc.
Knowing how London is under labour management after 10 years, this mostly feels like it would allow them to charge more for the inefficiency / incompetence of themselves.
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This is good. It's, broadly, the way it works in the US. States and towns can levy their own taxes broadly as they wish. And people can move if they don't like it.
This combined with land value tax replacing stamp duty would be A+ for the UK economy.
Cut My Tax@CutMyTaxUK
A licence to loot. Is this the real meaning of Mr Burnham's devolution plans? The All Party Parliamentary Group on Local Government, chaired by Labour MP Clive Betts, is today releasing a report recommending that local councils should be free to raise local tax rates as high they want without having to gain the permission of residents in a referendum. Their report also proposes assigning a proportion of the funds raised by income tax and stamp duty to local councils, as well as devolution of a range of taxes like landfill tax & the growth & skills levy. What could possibly go wrong?
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@LoftusSteve The USA has green card + more opportunities and pay, the Dubai has no tax. Something has to give.
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@grkn This is simply not true. The USA and Dubai do not have ILR and many people choose them.
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Why should ILR exist at all?
Why should the benefits of being a citizen be bestowed on to those that are not citizens?
If you are an upstanding contributor to the economy you can stay, if not, you can leave. ILR is a free pass for immigrants who fall below the threshold.
Politics UK@PolitlcsUK
🚨 NEW: Shabana Mahmood is considering relaxing her immigration reforms so the 10-year wait for indefinite stay does not apply to "Boriswave" migrants They may instead just face longer waits for benefits to ease pressure on Andy Burnham from Labour MPs [@thetimes]
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@fkadev Twitter psikologlarina cok pis orta acmissin. Simdi izle gore bak ne analizler :D
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Şu hayatta kimseye güvenmemeyi travmatik şekilde öğrendiğimiz için çok nadiren güven sorunu yaşıyorum. Direkt kimseye güvenmiyorum, tertemiz. O yüzden buradaki “nasıl da güvenmişiz” yakınmaları şaşırtıcı geliyor.
Birisi geçmişte bu yüzden “senin kadar garantici kimse tanımadım” demişti. Arkadaşlarım olabilir, çok yakınım da olabilir. Ama güven bambaşka bir şey.
Birine sır verirken dahi onu başkasına söyleyeceğini bilerek veririm. Birine başkasının dedikodusunu yaparken onu gidip anlatacağını bilerek yaparım. Birine borç verirken geri gelmeyeceğini bilerek veririm. Bir yere bağış yaparken yerine ulaşamayacağını bilerek yaparım. Birinden bir şey istediğim zaman yapmayacağı ihtimalini bilerek isterim.
Benim için hayatta mutlu olmanın yegane yolu kimseye güvenmemek, kimseden bir beklentiye girmemektir. Tabii buradaki güvensizlikten kastım şüphecilik değil, karıştırılmamalı. Şüphe farklı ve daha toksik bir şey. Negatif bekleme hali. Ben ne pozitif ne negatif beklentisizlikten bahsediyorum.
Dediğim gibi, bu durum “bu doğrudur” durumu değil. Bu travmatik bir psikolojik sonuç. Bir tür savunma yöntemi.
Tavsiye değil, projeksiyon.
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