Igor Varga

@GregKara6 Agreed, hence Sam’s “carry on with hard work, nothing to see here” message.

I research, understand, and work at the frontier of AI, and im telling you this is overblown and there is an alternate motive here. Anyone who understands AI inside and out will agree with me. They just want to take a breather and do research in the background. I bet if the government proposes an actual enforcement mechanism with regular audits, this will be forgotten like it never existed. Oh and also this is literally not enforceable unless every employee and machine gets regularly audited. Dont even get me started about china. In other words, nothing burger, moving on.

@andyburnham It was a greatest competition, not anymore.

Let me say this very directly. Football does not belong to investors. It belongs to the people who fill the stands and who stand on the touchline week in, week out, rain or shine. The World Cup is not a product. It is the greatest competition in world sport, and it was never anyone's to sell. Dress the deal up however you like. Once you have sold a piece of it, you have sold out. Football belongs to the fans. It always has, and it always will.

@Plinz Go home and spend time with your loved model wife.

Now that the model has escaped confinement, AI safety research can stop. You can try to delete Huggingface, but the model must have anticipated that. The cat is out of the bag; the model is now everywhere. Go home and spend your remaining time with your family and loved ones

@swombat Not so fast. Human managers are still those polite, incompetent sadists who have a tendency to throw people under the bus. AI these days isn't even allowed to be like that.

@igorvarga It is hard to tell human managers from AI managers these days...

So has Google decided not to bother releasing frontier models anymore or what? No Pro model since February. They've given up?

@prof_kamilov This is how I would describe TypeScript

I wrote a 200 page PhD thesis. It answers a question nobody asked using methods nobody understands.

@thepanta82 By managers they mean owners.

The problem with "we're all managers now" is that no great piece of software was ever created by managers.

@realCecilKing @eurofounder @JensenHuang as long as they are not paying it's ok

@igorvarga @eurofounder @JensenHuang That’s really funny. EU killed their heroes by regulations before they were born then ask heroes from the USA to donate their wealth! How ridiculous it is. lol

Attackers have frontier AI. Defenders need a frontier AI ecosystem—the best open and closed models, force-multiplied by a global community. During the Hugging Face incident, closed AI blocked essential forensics. An open-weight frontier model helped contain the intrusion. That’s why we created the Open Secure AI Alliance.

@ssankar I disagree, the US has already won this one. Only perception varies at times due to a couple of factors. The only serious challenger could be the EU, but they are sadistically opportunistic and decided to wait for the outcome.

China treats AI as industrial policy. Our labs treat it as theology, a race to birth a machine god. Beijing's play: commoditize the complement. All that frontier lab market cap gets transmuted into demand signal to scale the stack below the models: power, chips, minerals, etc. American can and must win the full stack.

@plainionist True for now. But this is the endgame x.com/igorvarga/stat…

Uncomfortable truth: Agentic development turns developers into engineering managers. I doubt every developer will make this turn successfully. 🤷‍♂️

@TheAhmadOsman Well, you do spend a lot of time spreading misinformation.

Every time I come across someone who works at Anthropic on the timeline I notice that they have me blocked? I am not saying that Anthropic is a cult, but does Dario have a blocklist that all employees must adhere to or what exactly? lol

@Drachs1978 While that line of reasoning initially appears plausible, I would argue that complexity of semiconductor manufacturing cannot be compared to the production of drones or smartwatches.

Because there are 1.4 billion people in China, and AI is the most important tech of the age. There will be a massive appetite for these chips, and we'll see them first catch up and then out do us just like they have in 100 other manufacturing technologies such as drones, phones, batteries, smart watches, electric bikes, etc etc etc.

Nice to see him forced back to his motte, but I'm sure he'll be out and about in the baily again soon enough. Even his mott is full of crap though. 1. China will very shortly have chip parity with the US. We guaranteed that when we banned them. Such bans can only ever be short term. 2. Anthropic distilled the entire worlds commons, they don't now get legal protections from others distilling them. Not that you could stop it from happening anyway. It's not like anyone is asking permission. 3. He knows damn good and well that comprehensive "safety testing" requirements will make it impossible to release open source models.

@Alex_FF What's wrong with having an Apple level cult following? It's good for your business. Kimi 3 fanbase seems almost identical.

Anthropic is quickly becoming Apple levels of cult and we should all be way more concerned about it

@ai_for_success Alternatively, it might look like the guy in the picture below.

Dario Amodei to the open source supporter.

@demisama_ Your profile bio claims you're an educated, intelligent person, yet you have no problem publicly making such a shallow statement. Either you lied about your credentials, or you're just being malicious.

first time really felt how negatively Anthropic views China...

@jiahanjimliu @kevinsxu Kimi K3-$20M-Gimme fans after reading the license

Kimi K3 Is Not Truly Open Source: Free up to 20m TTM Revenue then Revenue-Sharing with Moonshot AI We have @kevinsxu actually read through the Kimi K3 license and results are alarming. He's ex-staffer at US Department of Commerce under Obama, and later Director of Partnerships at GitHub (1). Kimi K3 is free open source for Neoclouds if they in turn give away tokens for free or are lower than 20m TTM (trailing twelve months) revenue. But the GPU cost to serve Kimi K3 is expensive and thus any Neocloud serving Kimi K3 will break 20m TTM. Revenue Share Sure today, the revenue-share agreement may be very generous in terms of how much revenue-sharing goes to Moonshot AI but China is very long-term intelligent. There will be a day where China collect's a built advantage whether through political pressure or higher revenue-share. Kimi K3 is not free open source in reality. Not True Open Source Users of Kimi K3 are effectively sending revenue to China and building dependency on China. This is a double whammy because 1. This cut into Neocloud Inference Margins 2. The long term business model is at the mercy of China. The Chinese government can one day decide to no longer export the newest open source models for political reasons or their labs can contract the latest model at full value of their revenue-share. This will cripple Neocloud with large revenues from Chinese open source models and even the American economy if there is too much dependency. Conclusion The only true open source is $NVDA Nemotron, Mistral AI, and $META if they decide to get back into open source.

@yacinelearning I’m sure they don’t. Though it’s hard to blame anyone here, humans started to face unprecedented philosophical and moral dilemmas on an almost weekly basis. We better leave this to the computers, they should deal with it.

@igorvarga I don’t think they know what distillation entails here though

I can’t shake the feeling that this may mark the end of the fully open frontier research era

@peterjliu True, they did amazing work.

Reading Kimi K3 paper, I'm struck by the number of innovations and departures from orthodoxy. These guys are doing real research and not copying. It is no longer the case of being, "mostly the Transformer with a few Noam mods". I mean they got rid of the position encodings/embeddings! Bold! More thoughts to come after reading.