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@irbythoughts

Liberal.

Katılım Haziran 2020
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brian@irbythoughts·
@demsocsean When Sean says "you haven't thought about what happened in 2024" he means "You need to interpret 2024 as a total vindication of progressive positions and electoral strategy, yes I would have concluded this no matter what happened, yes you're stupid if you disagree"
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Sean@demsocsean·
My main takeaway from this was the revelation that Sarah has a book coming out on how to defeat MAGA when Kamala lost following her exact game plan (down to campaigning with Liz Cheney). Tim Miller is only Never Trumper who has actually truly thought about what happened in 24.
The Bulwark@BulwarkOnline

"I could think of 1000 other things I would rather Democrats pick fights about now. Like, why him right now?" "Because he's making their life harder." @Timodc and @SarahLongwell25 spar over one of the biggest questions facing Democrats right now: what to do about Hasan Piker?

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brian@irbythoughts·
@umichvoter I know you don't seriously believe AOC should be nominated
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umichvoter@umichvoter·
People really like the idea of collective punishment if the primary electorate doesn't go with their choice As much as some of us like AOC, there's a very real chance it's gonna be Newsom or another moderate
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brian@irbythoughts·
@StatisticUrban How anyone can listen to Polanski for longer than 5 minutes and not conclude this is crazy to me
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Hunter📈🌈📊@StatisticUrban·
What a lot of Americans cheering on the Greens don’t understand is that the leadership of the UK Greens is stupid. I don’t mean this as a value judgement. They are genuinely unintelligent. The gap between them and AOC or Mamdani is a chasm.
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brian@irbythoughts·
@Vote_HQ Conducted on trinity campus
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brian@irbythoughts·
@austinahlman "You guys said we're not doing woke excess anymore so you absolutely have to welcome the "america deserved 9/11" guy into the tent or you're a cancel culturer" lmao ok dude
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brian@irbythoughts·
@artisanrocky Hasan is not the progressive flag bearer. Mcmorrow cleary knows ball since she knows it's stupid and electorally radioactive to campaign with the "america deserved 9/11" guy
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brian@irbythoughts·
@demsocsean Hasan isn't the left. Do you not understand how the guy who said America deserved 9/11 is electorally radioactive? El sayed is a loser who's gonna lose again
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brian@irbythoughts·
@MazzaDammit @Rinston99 @souljagoyteller lol ok stepping aside from your weird hang up about AOC being the left's current leading pick to lead the party, how do you explain Harris not losing any progressive vote share? Why did the Trump campaign pay millions to blast her previous lefty positions in every swing state?
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Vaccine Enjoyer@MazzaDammit·
@irbythoughts @Rinston99 @souljagoyteller I don't know how to explain that AOC isn't "the left." The actual left electorate is a group of people with varying dogmatic adherence to socialist thought. You got your dream centrist campaign from Harris, and it went exactly how everyone said it would
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brian@irbythoughts·
@MazzaDammit @Rinston99 @souljagoyteller What a laundry list of irrelevant bullshit lol + immigration. She lost the election chiefly because of disapproval of Biden (most progressive admin of ur lifetime btw), inflation and immigration. LW pols were. the last to abandon Biden, wanted more spending, and to ignore border.
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Vaccine Enjoyer@MazzaDammit·
@irbythoughts @Rinston99 @souljagoyteller And did tacking to the right by promising to prioritize border security over pageantry help assuage those voters? How about the most lethal military in the world? A Cheney endorsement? Her Glock? How many from the Biden coalition sat this one out? Clown shit campaign
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brian@irbythoughts·
@MazzaDammit @Rinston99 @souljagoyteller I literally asked who you want to nominate and said I guessed AOC. She is routinely the current top choice for progressives in polling lmao but ok dear left whisperer I simply don't get it alright
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Vaccine Enjoyer@MazzaDammit·
@irbythoughts @Rinston99 @souljagoyteller I don't really care about AOC; you assumed I did because you don't have a theory of mind for the actual American left. I will vote for anyone that prioritizes civil liberties and a basic standard of living over naked capitalism. You'll vote for the Dem nominee; I may not
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brian@irbythoughts·
@MazzaDammit @Rinston99 @souljagoyteller And idk who you're citing when referring to the dark amorphous blob of the DNC, but Harris won a share of prog. voters as high as Biden if not higher. So don't pat yourself on the back too much for that loss, voters thought she was too radical and woke, while you yell Thatcher
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Vaccine Enjoyer@MazzaDammit·
@irbythoughts @Rinston99 @souljagoyteller My issue is this: the left has articulable principles and policy proposals. You've demonstrated you'll just vote for team blue regardless. Why should anyone care what you think vs the people who, by the DNC's own admission, can actually tank an election?
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Vaccine Enjoyer@MazzaDammit·
@irbythoughts @Rinston99 @souljagoyteller There are 7 moderates left and they're essentially lobotomites. Trying to appeal to the handful that exist in 3 swing states is moronic. For proof of this concept, I'd encourage you to look at Dem party approval vs approval for individual left pols. Or the results of 2016/2024
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brian@irbythoughts·
@MazzaDammit @Rinston99 @souljagoyteller Yeah totally the "try to convince moderates" approach is totally the unprecedented burn the party down path and not the "we need a massive party takeover and reorganization around socialist ideas" approach no yeah for sure
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Vaccine Enjoyer@MazzaDammit·
@Rinston99 @souljagoyteller Excellent question. I'd encourage you to pose it to the people insistent that we reach across the aisle to pick up Republican voters
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brian@irbythoughts·
@souljagoyteller So are we saying "America deserved 9/11" guy is not absolutely radioactive to normal voters. Is that what we're saying. That the coalition needs room for that.
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brian@irbythoughts·
@maiamindel This is not what people are saying
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Maia@maiamindel·
i'm sorry but the whole "you shouldn't debate hasan piker because he's antisemitic" discourse is functionally identical to the "shun joe rogan because he's sexist and racist" stuff from 2019. well, we know how that one turned out
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brian@irbythoughts·
@jonfavs You and other PSA people have not challenged him and won't, you left that to Miller and Tarlov there. His standalone appearances on your shows have been more than friendly and simply reflect your lame hope to win far left approval after their relentless bagging on you 2017-2022
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Jon Favreau
Jon Favreau@jonfavs·
Yup, there he is. A person we debate politics with. Thanks for sharing.
Michael A. Cohen (NOT TRUMP’S FORMER FIXER)@speechboy71

Listen, it's all well and good to criticize Democratic politicians for holding events with Hasan Piker ... but don't forget that bros at @PodSaveAmerica, who have had Piker on as a guest multiple times and even invited him to speak at their Crooked Con conference. He's the guy sitting between @Timodc and @SymoneDSanders

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