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Katılım Mayıs 2023
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Tom Dunleavy
Tom Dunleavy@dunleavy89·
This post is why people hate SF. "Boo hoo my ~$500k a year job doesnt have me keeping up with Dario, Jensen, Elon and Mark 🥲🥲" Dude, this is like a decade of the average American's salary for moving a few buttons around and going on Macha coffee dates. This is a lifetime of salary for most 2nd or 3rd world countries. Take the millions you probably saved and go retire LITERALLY anywhere else.
Deedy@deedydas

The vibes in SF feel pretty frenetic right now. The divide in outcomes is the worst I've ever seen. Over the last 5yrs, a group of ~10k people - employees at Anthropic, OpenAI, xAI, Nvidia, Meta TBD, founders - have hit retirement wealth of well above $20M (back of the envelope AI estimation). Everyone outside that group feels like they can work their well-paying (but <$500k) job for their whole life and never get there. Worse yet, layoffs are in full swing. Many software engineers feel like their life's skill is no longer useful. The day to day role of most jobs has changed overnight with AI. As a result, 1. The corporate ladder looks like the wrong building to climb. Everyone's trying to align with a new set of career "paths": should I be a founder? Is it too late to join Anthropic / OpenAI? should I get into AI? what company stock will 10x next? People are demanding higher salaries and switching jobs more and more. 2. There’s a deep malaise about work (and its future). Why even work at all for “peanuts”? Will my job even exist in a few years? Many feel helpless. You hear the “permanent underclass” conversation a lot, esp from young people. It's hard to focus on doing good work when you think "man, if I joined Anthropic 2yrs ago, I could retire" 3. The mid to late middle managers feel paralyzed. Many have families and don't feel like they have the energy or network to just "start a company". They don't particularly have any AI skills. They see the writing on the wall: middle management is being hollowed out in many companies. 4. The rich aren’t particularly happy either. No one is shedding tears for them (and rightfully so). But those who have "made it" experience a profound lack of purpose too. Some have gone from <$150k to >$50M in a few years with no ramp. It flips your life plans upside down. For some, comparison is the thief of joy. For some, they escape to NYC to "live life". For others still, they start companies "just cuz", often to win status points. They never imagined that by age 30, they'd be set. I once asked a post-economic founder friend why they didn't just sell the co and they said "and do what? right now, everyone wants to talk to me. if i sell, I will only have money." I understand that many reading this scoff at the champagne problems of the valley. Society is warped in this tech bubble. What is often well-off anywhere else in the world is bang average here. Unlike many other places, tenure, intelligence and hard work can be loosely correlated with outcomes in the Bay. Living through a societally transformative gold rush in that environment can be paralyzing. "Am I in the right place? Should I move? Is there time still left? Am I gonna make it?" It psychologically torments many who have moved here in search of "success". Ironically, a frequent side effect of this torment is to spin up the very products making everyone rich in hopes that you too can vibecode your path to economic enlightenment.

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JC@jackfcrowley·
@jamiequint @cocascola @EditionA3 @nsdomanico @dunleavy89 "Dude, this is like a decade of the average American's salary for moving a few buttons around and going on Macha coffee dates. This is a lifetime of salary for most 2nd or 3rd world countries. Take the millions you probably saved and go retire LITERALLY anywhere else."
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James Scola
James Scola@cocascola·
@jamiequint @jackfcrowley @EditionA3 @nsdomanico @dunleavy89 You have made a conscious choice to pay a premium to live in SF. Maybe it's for the food and culture. Maybe it's for the job liquidity. Maybe the weather. Maybe the politics. IDK. I pay a premium for it in Boston. I'm happy to for the reasons I'm very cognizant of
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JC@jackfcrowley·
@jamiequint @EditionA3 @nsdomanico @dunleavy89 its obviously relevant because you dont make 500k in a vacuum. you increase over time so its a fair assumption that if you have a family you are older. You are the one who brought up having 4 kids so clearly you would have had plenty of time to build up investments by then.
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Jamie Quint
Jamie Quint@jamiequint·
Still above average in urban setting. Sending your kid to a ~70th percentile (nationwide) school and living in a ~50th percentile (SF) house with a ~70th percentile commute is not ultra-luxury. This is what $500k/yr HHI buys you in SF. It's not poverty, but making it out to be some king's wage in SF is also not accurate.
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JC@jackfcrowley·
@jamiequint @EditionA3 @nsdomanico @dunleavy89 also its not my problem if you are 40 years old and have been making 500k/year and dont have at least 1 mil put away like you have to be extremely stupid with your money to be in that scenario
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JC@jackfcrowley·
@jamiequint @EditionA3 @nsdomanico @dunleavy89 genuine question -- are you engagement farming? because obviously a 700k is the easy bare minimum house to buy but YOU brought up a $2.5mil house which is clearly the definition of "extravagant". I don't like to waste my time so yeah thanks for being low IQ
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JC@jackfcrowley·
@jamiequint @EditionA3 @nsdomanico @dunleavy89 I can already predict your next reply "B-but its not enough space!!" okay then assume you have more than 500k saved from a 500k job over a few years
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JC@jackfcrowley·
@jamiequint @EditionA3 @nsdomanico @dunleavy89 hey man, theres this cool function on zillow called "sort by price low to high". I'm not sure if you were able to build wealth with your level of mental laziness but it gives me hope for my own life!!
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JC@jackfcrowley·
@jamiequint @nsdomanico @dunleavy89 dude where the actual fuck are you getting this number? -- "Median 1800 sq ft apt ($2.5m) + Utils + taxes - $192k/yr" also public school is free. I appreciate the trolling but please tell me you're not serious. A literal YC founder and angel investor you have to be kidding
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Jamie Quint
Jamie Quint@jamiequint·
@nsdomanico @dunleavy89 Median 1800 sq ft apt ($2.5m) + Utils + taxes - $192k/yr Daycare/School/Camp * 2 - $70k/yr 529 or 401k * 2 - $38k/yr Food - $18k/yr Car/Transportation - $12k/yr Kids Misc - $4k/yr Adults Misc - $6k/yr Healthcare - $12k Vacation - hahahaha -- Total: $352k
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JC@jackfcrowley·
@jamiequint @dunleavy89 obviously a studio costs less than $25k/year I hope you are joking
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Jamie Quint
Jamie Quint@jamiequint·
@dunleavy89 Cool. We've gone from "it won't let you keep up with Elon" to "it will afford you a studio in SF"
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JC@jackfcrowley·
@merlinscapital imagine identifying with the "average"
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JC@jackfcrowley·
@DeltaClimbs I think it shows that they have a distribution channel that legacy manufacturers don't (X)
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JC@jackfcrowley·
$SNAP is a 100x stock over the next decade
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Ahmed shubber
Ahmed shubber@ahmedshubber25·
Generators, grid transformers, heavy equipment, Cooling systems, robotic arms, CNC machines, airplanes, are all in global shortage right now with long lead times. But apparently, the AI lawyer is the real priority for vc funding.
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