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@Daniele_Media most of us have moved on but the media and x accounts wont stfu about it for the clicks, literally every word out of marners mouth they spin it about the leafs

The Mitch Marner discourse is fascinating to me. I understand the natural bitterness from Leaf fans. However, the fact that the Leafs get mentioned at every turn is a bit exhausting and excessive. He’s in a different uniform. Why are we still obsessed with the Toronto stuff?

@DwayneNHL if u havent noticed marner is partly at fault for most of those reasons, wouldn't be as cap strapped if some player wasn't leaking 2 the media that he'll play over seas if he doesn't get paid what he wants

The Mitch Marner revisionist history is wild. But here's my assessment of why it failed in TO and why he's found success elsewhere. The standard "he’s soft / can't win" rhetoric never made logical sense. Toronto's failure wasn't a talent issue...it was a structural failure of roster construction, deployment, and asset management. Here is the truth bomb: 1. Matchups & The Kessel Parallel - In Toronto, Marner faced top-pair D and shutdown lines every night. In Vegas, he’s playing behind Eichel and Stone. Because opponents have to hard-match Eichel’s line, Marner gets 2nd-pair matchups and feeds on them. It’s the exact same reason Phil Kessel feasted in Pittsburgh after years of carrying the load in TO. 2. Flawed Cap Construction - The #Leafs were built incorrectly. Too much money up front, not enough on the blue line or in net. When a roster is that top-heavy, those elite forwards have to be superhuman to mask the depth issues. When the tight playoff whistle blows and they score like normal stars, the lack of depth exposes the whole team. 3. Coaching & Management- Matthews and Marner were never split up under Keefe or Berube. Only Babcock did it, but he did it when they were 19 and 20. If they had that structural discipline when the core was 24-25, the results likely look entirely different. Combine that with management trading away SEVEN 1st-round picks and FIVE 2nd-round picks during the Matthews/Marner era, and they completely starved the pipeline of the cheap ELC depth needed to survive a top-heavy cap. Vegas didn't need Marner to be a savior, they just needed him to be an elite piece of an already championship-caliber puzzle. It’s about usage and deployment. Vegas did it correctly. Toronto didn't. #LeafsForever #VegasBorn #NHL

@AdamWylde hated, adored, but never ignored

Man, you think the Leafs were playing tonight with all the chatter Just can’t help but be obsessed

@DavidsonDo40325 @BenoitForHart His prob wasn't just coming up short it was his series ending plays on top of that, puck over the glass against the habs which cost them the series, pasta game 7 o.t winner he let pasta float right by him and score, game 7 vs the panthers with his floaty backhand give away.

@BenoitForHart Yes, of the big three he came up short in the big games more than the other two, maybe if he had shown up the entire scenario around this team would have changed. And all it would have taken is showing up, not even standing out!

It’s so funny seeing people say “Marner wasn’t the problem in Toronto” because of these playoffs When in reality these playoffs and his recent behaviour PROVES he was the problem So he always had this ability but didn’t use it in Toronto? That’s a problem.

@BenoitForHart yea i dont get how 1 run erases 9, i support marner and always have but lets be real he had more series ending plays then winning. the guy crumbled under the pressure here thats it.

@AntonioArchil11 @demorizi_eddie @Davelikesdisc @JomboyMedia didnt think it was intentional but u cant fault a fan base that gets mad when 4 batters are hit 1 game and the very next game the smoke another batter and then look into the dugout. especially with the injuries the jays have had alrdy from being hit by pitches

@jmart272 @demorizi_eddie @Davelikesdisc @JomboyMedia it’s not on purpose, sandy couldn’t locate his breaking pitches at all last night

John Schneider was not happy with Eury Perez

@Devdrummond44 @SenatorsSession the same leaf fans who were clowned for supporting the core 4 as long as we did are now being told we ran them out of town. most of these idiots are being shown receipts of their marner hate and they have no response because they're disingenuous retards

@SenatorsSession He wanted to leave. Just like marner. Im pointing out the stupidity that people say leafs fans claim marner was the problem. No leafs fan would want to lose a 100 point player. Its a fake narrative

Leaf fans chasing Marner out of town and him getting to the dance first rip out of leaf land will never not be funny. Good chance he puts the cherry on top with a ring and a conn smythe to go with it

@demorizi_eddie @Davelikesdisc @JomboyMedia which is literally 1 hit off the record for the most hits in a game in the past 100 years so stfu

@Davelikesdisc @JomboyMedia One game you got hit 4 times (on off speeds) grow up

@nascarfanbw23 @BrowardDolphins @Sportsnet rlly tho lol imagine being a pro athlete and u get injured from that.

@BrowardDolphins @Sportsnet Imagine hurting yourself stretching. What a pussy

Eury Pérez exits the game after seemingly injuring himself while stretching before the bottom of the fifth.

@livescorebetuk im sorry but if bruno doesnt get it declan rice sure as fuck shouldnt be getting it lmfao, if not bruno it should be haland or igor thiago. not the guy with 9g/a

#MUFC captain Bruno Fernandes was named #PL Player of the Season after breaking the assists record 👏 But should the award have gone to a #AFC player? 👀🔴

@Account4hockey @Poleen98OP likely to better lmfao, yea il take the guaranteed good player at a good age and contract over a giant ? , id sooner trade willy or auston

@Poleen98OP Multiple prospect writers think he will drop. Stenberg is likely going to be so much better than Knies, and likely faster than you think

Leafs should try and dangle Knies for CHI's pick if Stenberg drops to 4th like he's rumoured to.

@joshbeleaf tuch aint leaving, the guy stood by the sabres thru all that bullshit, he aint leaving the second things are going well in buffalo

The leafs have quite a compelling pitch for Alex Tuch: •Play with Matthews and (1) of Cowan, Knies, McKenna •Assets saved signing Tuch go right to the back end •New coach, new management, resetting for a better 2.0 version •Still close to Buffalo(his hometown)

@FPLCrateDigger learn the rules guys holy hell, a ball shot on target and deflected off the goalie is not an own goal

I couldn’t care less about assist records and am honestly delighted Bruno won POTS over an Arsenal player but the original ‘off target’ shot clearly rebounds back towards the pitch and is then punched into goal by the GK. By any current or historical rule that’s an own goal

@Duddy__Kravitz @JustinLuey @tmlfaninvan thrown 2 the wolves lmfao holy hell u guys are retarded, mitch him fckin self said the fans treat players like gods in toronto so spare me the bullshit from a leaf hater that prob hasnt even stepped foot in toronto

@JustinLuey @tmlfaninvan I’m of the same thought. I almost feel sorry for players there. They get thrown to the wolves & the organization just doesn’t care unless it costs them money!

Weird that Mitch’s parents were looking at real estate a year before his contract expired + Vegas had to give Toronto a player back to avoid tampering charges + Mitch turned down MORE MONEY to stay yet it was “the Leafs/Fans” who hung Mitch out to dry Get fucked

@MCFC_Sam320 typical mental midget city fans who doesn't kno the rules

Bruno Fernandes last 2 assists were from a clear own goal and one of the most blatant handballs of all time. The disrespect to KDB and Henry from the Premier League is a joke.

@afc_thms @Talon1065038 holy fck u guys cant be this stupid, learn the fckin rules moron. a deflection off a goalie is and has never been an own goal

@Talon1065038 Thanks for proving that its an own goal lmao

Opta’s credibility is completely gone now. They have taken away like 3 Saka assists this season but they let this one go? Lmao

@AKRILLOCLOTHING @OctagonSuperrr yea and mitch did when he watched pasta skate by him in o.t of game 7? or when under no pressure he launched the puck over the glass creating a 5on3 against, or better yet is floaty backhand with 0 defensive effort to fix his mistake, is that buying in to u?

@OctagonSuperrr lol isn’t “buying in” meaning full commitment?

He’s not wrong, Matthews and Nylander never bought in 🤷🏻‍♂️

@Bhess @hockeypsych_ toronto is 2 nice to players thats the fckin problem, u think vegas would put up with a player constantly leaking 2 the media to complain or threatening 2 play over seas if he didnt get paid like a superstar

@hockeypsych_ Toronto is not a good organization. People may not like them but Vegas is a well run NHL team.

I think what everyone should understand is that this version (Playoff Conn Smythe Candidate) of Marner was never available in Toronto for a few reasons.  🧵 1. Toronto never truly built a quality team around Marner & it put immense pressure on him (and the core 4) to be the guy

@hockeypsych_ prob is in toronto he demanded 2 be treated like he was that guy and demanded 2 be paid like he was that guy but everytime it came down to being that guy he always folded. sure they didnt build well and utilise him properly but mitch himself was pitching himself as ''that guy''

@TomCantonMedia learn the rules then retard b4 u post ''your view''

I’ll give my view. It’s absolutely ludicrous that a panel of former players and a PGMOL official can watch the replay and deem that this isn’t an own goal. Beyond ridiculous.