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Jake Hanley
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Jake Hanley
@jph408
it's about da Sharks baby, let's go Sharks baby, love da Sharks
San José, CA Katılım Nisan 2014
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imagine a swapped version… this immortal who despite everything they've seen, still sees the world as beautiful, and teaches the mortal that to give them hope to keep going in life
Dead Inside@Dead_Inside_079
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@KhakiBlueSocks I’m sure your heart is in the right place, but they didn’t invent mass-market anime with a reasonable price.
They must have also treated your favorite shows with the right amount of love, because I don’t think I can forgive them for ruining Your Name’s one shot at Oscar gold.
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Even with its faults, Funimation was a company that put a lot of love and respect into each and every license and product they aquired.
They also introduced the S.A.V.E Complete Collection sets, which allowed fans to buy the shows they love while on a budget.
Joshua Gould@voicearchivist
What comes to mind when you see this logo?
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@tylergilfoster @TheEricGoldman @letterboxd No one said they weren't important. If you're going to pollute my notifications with some monologuing on what festivals mean to you personally, at least try to get that part right. With all due respect, this is probably better for your own part of the web rather than Twitter.
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@jph408 @TheEricGoldman @letterboxd Except, it actually is objectively important, so it's not arbitrary. That is indisputably true. Not every movie, but I would be surprised if you could name even five movies where 1) festivals weren't important *AND* 2) they're relevant to this conversation about release year
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HUGE pet peeve of mine. Wikipedia and other sites do this too. A movie playing a one-off film fest screening is not when it opened!! Obsession is a 2026 movie and I won’t accept these internet lies! (But seriously, can we tweak this, @letterboxd?)
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Hate how Letterboxd counts festivals as when a movie released because I feel like it’s trying to gaslight me into thinking Good Luck, Have Fun, Don’t Die and Obsession are 2025 movies because twenty people or whatever saw them last year.
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@tylergilfoster @TheEricGoldman @letterboxd That's reasoning that goes both ways, though. Your valuation of festivals, to the point of describing as "objectively" important, is just as arbitrary. Not all movies deserve the exact same approach to calculating their release year.
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@jph408 @TheEricGoldman @letterboxd You'd have to explain why it's arbitrary. Individual people not caring about festivals does not count as a reason, because that's subjective. Filmmakers put a lot of time and effort into premiering at festivals for a reason -- they are objectively important within the industry.
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how i feel in my friends’ dms begging them to watch a movie i loved
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@tylergilfoster @TheEricGoldman @letterboxd That still doesn't narrow down a date by itself and relies on an arbitrary designation of "official". I know it's easier for a one size fits all approach, but not all movies were released the same way, and not all users have their view of the movies revolve around festivals.
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@jph408 @TheEricGoldman @letterboxd What can I tell you? I genuinely do not think that is arbitrary, to say that the movie is given a year when it plays in an official capacity to a paying audience. That is completely and logically straightforward, in a way all alternatives require far more justification.
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@tylergilfoster @TheEricGoldman @letterboxd That's still arbitrary, though, and I once again have to emphasize how harmless it would be for this to be an option for those who prefer sorting by when it opened in cinemas.
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@jph408 @TheEricGoldman @letterboxd Every increasing bit of complicating data just underlines why the system that streamlines all of this to the date it first played to a public audience in a form considered completed by the filmmakers -- the one the world is already using -- is simpler.
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@simonlouisong @GarmyGarms @TheEricGoldman @Illegalraft @letterboxd That's a little clearer than if we want to consider the date to be the first preview show, the first advance screening, the festival opener, or the gala premiere, or when it opens in cinemas, all of which can be different.
Again, I promise that such an option would be harmless.
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@jph408 @GarmyGarms @TheEricGoldman @Illegalraft @letterboxd Yeah we should just implement a feature where you can edit who the director of the movie is because isn’t that an arbitrary line in the sand too? Between director and first AD or director of photography or production designer?
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@simonlouisong @GarmyGarms @TheEricGoldman @Illegalraft @letterboxd That still doesn't make it any less of a line in the sand than any other sneak preview screening, though, even if you want to place festivals on that high of a pedestal.
"It's cheaper and easier, and they just don't feel like it" makes a little more sense.
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@jph408 @GarmyGarms @TheEricGoldman @Illegalraft @letterboxd Also it’s not arbitrary at all! Just because you or I could not personally go to Cannes does not mean it was not released to the public. A movie released exclusively in Japan is still released that year even tho I can’t personally afford a trip to Japan
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@simonlouisong @GarmyGarms @TheEricGoldman @Illegalraft @letterboxd Oh, so it wasn't a different edit or anything distinctive.
What you're referring to as the "premiere" is an arbitrary line in the sand. I promise, from the bottom of my heart, that some added sorting options for Letterboxd users will leave you personally unharmed.
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@jph408 @GarmyGarms @TheEricGoldman @Illegalraft @letterboxd Admittedly I pivoted to talking about international releases in the case of Soy Cuba, since that was also brought up here.
Doesn’t affect me personally. You keep calling festivals advance screenings. They’re not advance screenings. Those are the premieres.
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@simonlouisong @GarmyGarms @TheEricGoldman @Illegalraft @letterboxd Unless I'm reading the packaging incorrectly, I'm pretty sure Soy Cuba has one cut. Is there some secret one I missed out on?
More importantly, does noting a different date from the festival circuit advance screenings affect you personally?
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@jph408 @GarmyGarms @TheEricGoldman @Illegalraft @letterboxd This just falls apart when you look at any movies made outside the traditional Hollywood wide release system. Is Army of Shadows a 2006 release instead of 1969? House from 2010 instead of 1977? I Am Cuba from 1995 instead of 1964? What about movies that never get a wide release?
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@tylergilfoster @TheEricGoldman @letterboxd It was still prepared and released in a different year, though, so it'd still be fair to note, even if, as you've stated redundantly, you'd prefer to avoid pointing that out under any circumstances.
This sounds more like a personal style guide note than anything meaningful.
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@jph408 @TheEricGoldman @letterboxd I've been a film critic for over 25 years and in my entire life I have never seen anyone credit The Final Cut with the year that cut was released as opposed to 1982.
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@fuck_brady @GarmyGarms @TheEricGoldman @Illegalraft @letterboxd I agree insofar as I go with my own custom ranking graphics, partly because Letterboxd and TMDB don't work properly for automating some parts of assembly.
If you'll care to read the thread, that's fundamentally what some others here also find somewhat annoying.
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@jph408 @GarmyGarms @TheEricGoldman @Illegalraft @letterboxd I think you’re making this a bigger deal than it is, just enjoy the movies when they come out. Why does it matter what date Letterboxd shows
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@simonlouisong @GarmyGarms @TheEricGoldman @Illegalraft @letterboxd I think some movies can have more than one date depending on the version, but Episode IV might not be the best example because the original went wide on one date and people are generally on the same page there.
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@jph408 @GarmyGarms @TheEricGoldman @Illegalraft @letterboxd Should Star Wars be listed as a 2011 film because that’s when they last made edits to it? Or do we acknowledge that even if a movie is released before its final state, it’s still been released?
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@tylergilfoster @TheEricGoldman @letterboxd It's a safe assumption if you didn't understand why one title might have more than one date assigned.
The Final Cut wasn't assembled and released in 1982, either. You're free to mark it with whatever date you want, but it'd be incorrect for that specific version.
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@jph408 @TheEricGoldman @letterboxd I've seen all five cuts of Blade Runner! Why do you assume I cannot possibly understand a movie having multiple cuts? And of course, by the way: Blade Runner has a year! 1982! The Final Cut? Still dated 1982! Like it should be!
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@fuck_brady @GarmyGarms @TheEricGoldman @Illegalraft @letterboxd The first one for advance screenings? Or for festivals? Or for a gala? What if edits were made after those points? What if it was re-edited for an MPA rating? “The very first [date]” usually needs some context, dawg. That’s why it’s better to make this an adjustable option.
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@jph408 @GarmyGarms @TheEricGoldman @Illegalraft @letterboxd Movies are released in different months and different years in other countries. To avoid having to either monitor when every movie releases in every country/region or choosing one, Letterboxd instead just does the most objective date which is the very first one
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@tylergilfoster @TheEricGoldman @letterboxd The current system doesn’t account for those changes, though, or different edits. You’ll find out what that means once you get to Blade Runner or Touch of Evil, it’s not something that can be appropriately summarized in one tweet.
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@jph408 @TheEricGoldman @letterboxd The changes that occur between fest and wide release absolutely are accounted for in my belief that the current system is obviously correct
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@GarmyGarms @TheEricGoldman @Illegalraft @letterboxd Edits are made all the time after festivals, so that’s as arbitrary as the release date into cinemas. I thought you knew that if you’re putting their premiere schedule on such a high pedestal.
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@jph408 @TheEricGoldman @Illegalraft @letterboxd Because your argument is personal and not based in reality. The movie came out at a festival, that’s when people first got to see the finished movie. That’s the year it came out because a festival premiere is a premiere , not an “advance screening.”
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@NARCFILM @TheEricGoldman @letterboxd It went wide on Christmas weekend of 1997, so that’s not the best example, because we’re all on the same page as to the year it came out.
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@TheEricGoldman @letterboxd World premieres are how movies are dated & it's been that way for over half a century cf. Titanic came out at the end of December 1997; most people saw it in 1998.
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