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@HemaGhildiyal @itsmiling_face अग्नि is साक्षी when and if required.
भगवद गीता is popularized by westerners because they need Bible like anchor to understand religion.
Lying was yet not conceived by Homo when our credo formed; books, religion and courts were naturally non existent.
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કેયુર (Keyur)@keyur1277
Lying was an epistemological impossibility when Sanskrit evolved. There were no dictionaries. So all Sanskrit words are descriptions and convey what their constituent वर्ण/अक्षर mean. Describing things differently was not possible. Sanskrit credo crystalized in this era.
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@itsmiling_face A Christian is prohibited to lie after taking oath on Bible, a Muslim cannot lie on oath on Quran.. Which is that book for Hindus..??
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@anandraman A better solution would be - individual/ village level - 2 kw solar + grid/battery + individual - 1 kLph electrolyser = 1 LPG replaced for life. As a nation you are ready to move to hydrogen when it arrives for vehicles.
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@anandraman Which branch was the first? Even with great effort, it can not be known, It is said the original Banyan Tree was swept away in the flood; though parts are washed away many times, same old tree now sprouts in twenty times the original circumference.
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@anandraman reminds me of this -
કિયૂં ડાળૂં પ્હેલૂં, કંઇ ન પરખાએ શ્રમ કરે ,
ઘસેડ્યો પાડીને, અસલવડ રેલે જણ કહે;
તણાયા છે ભાગો, ઘણી વખત જો એ વડ તણા,
તથાપિ એ થાએ, ફુટ વીસ ગુણ્યા સો પરિઘમાં.
mitixa.com/2010/733.htm
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वि : Object(speak) = spoken = alternate-to-real.
वि as opposed to सन and प्र.
This is the root difference between विभाषा, अन्यतरसयाम् and वा.
विभाषा means different only in speech.
#linguistics #पणिनि

@sadhavi I have realized. There are two answers.
1. 42
2. Thanks for all the fish
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@tskrishnan We have continuity since at least 430 ka and potentially since 7 Ma. Mechanism given in शिक्षा & प्रातिशाख्य for production of ऋ and ऌ are compatible with Homo erectus anatomy and not with Homo sapiens anatomy (high larynx)

A very important discovery that pushes the antiquity of the Sindhu-Saraswati Civilisation even further back. Full-fledged urban centres like Mohenjo-daro existed here five thousand years ago.
This is yet another strong blow to the apologists of the fake Aryan invasion theory.
dawn.com/news/1985048
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@sadhavi The root is "desire" (तम domain). This is beyond science. that root splits into two sub-branches - desires pertaining to other living beings (रज-relationship world) and desires pertaining to non-living things (सत-material world)
Only the material/सत world is the domain of science
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@kojAnAti @pathaspati As per पूर्वानुपूर्व परंपरा - म् before ह. वेद पाठीs pronounce it this way.
youtube.com/watch?v=QYpVUq…

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Even so, brāhmāṇa-s are strictly forbidden from drinking alochol by dictates of śāstra. Expiation is very strict - death by pouring hot wine.
Even when using as offering, viprajana-s should refrain from consumption. Very few exceptions to this rule.

Nabaarun Barooah@BarooahNabaarun
Bs, alcohol is one of the pancha-makara, which are mandatory offerings in vamachara tantra (practiced in Assam). No tantric ritual (in vamachara) dedicated to Kali and Bhairav can be undertaken without the offering of liquor.
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@kojAnAti @pathaspati अ-ब्रम्ह religions had lost heritage from पूर्वजs and had to make their शास्त्र diktat based as a result. Their belief that their forefathers were dumb and sinned could have arisen from loss of पूर्व अनुपूर्व शास्त्र.
This belief about ancestors is a fundamental difference.

@kojAnAti @pathaspati In अ-ब्रम्ह religions शास्त्र are diktat from God, शास्त्र of ब्रम्ह traditions are words of पूर्वज. They are preserved as a time capsule, not eternal truth.
You don't change them but you can disagree and add your views.
"मा शुच" & "यथेच्छसी तथा कुरु" can and do coexist.

@kojAnAti @pathaspati I would rather interpret "सुरापानापनुत्त्यर्थं" of 11.91 as "to manage hang over"
To me message is - Drink to relieve from बंधन but fermented intoxicants is last choice as you have to drink गोमूत्रमग्निवर्णं to manage hang over.
That interpretation is equally valid.

@kojAnAti @pathaspati My bad. Poor choice of word. Root word toxic is not appropriate description.
What I mean is mind altering.
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@keyur1277 सोम isn't really an intoxicant from what I know. Only labelled as such. @pathaspati if you can back me up on this
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@rorysutherland Ask your parents. Description may differ, but the feeling would be the same.
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@kojAnAti मधु॑ वाता॑ ऋताय॒ते is to be read in this context:
Until it became abundant, Sugars (सोम) were main intoxicants for most of Homo history. Alcohol is distant second.
मनुस्मृति context is - सोम preferred; सूरा not.
Sugar is THE most potent psychedelic even today.
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@kojAnAti अग्निवर्ण can mean colored like fire - red/yellow.
By the time of मनु स्मृति, negatives of drinking were known and warned against; drinking is never "sin" in western sense.
refer to RV 1.116.7 and 10.131.5.
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@kojAnAti @actualsnek_ So Ashtafhyayi is also mostly inherited.
पूर्व अनुपूर्व

@actualsnek_ Might have but the broader point is that MS serves as a key for understanding sUtra-s from AA.
Conversely, the reason why AA has its brevity and level of sophistication is incorporation of MS.
We say हलन्त for the sign of consonant endings and even that is simply हल् + अन्त।
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॥ नृत्तावसाने नटराजराजो ननाद ढक्कान्नवपञ्चवारम् ।
उद्धर्तुकामस्सनकादिसिद्धान् एतद्विमर्शे शिवसूत्रजालम् ॥
sóma@actualsnek_
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