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I have been saying this for a while now? x.com/lahjar_/status…

@venturetwins What is the number that would convince you?

“The death of generative AI” and it’s literally one app shutting down while everything else is in fast takeoff

@jimstewartson x.com/i/status/20339…

Men, I cannot emphasize this enough. Mimicking deviant psychopaths like Elon Musk and Marc Andreessen is the most beta move in the history of the world.

@tunguz And smart people will use it less, and more judiciously While dumb people use it far more, without a moment to reflect

Very likely. Intelligence is a compounding asset.

@danallison Have you ever seen the people that sit in front of slot machines all day, and push buttons? If you ever speak to them later, they're usually burnt out (and afraid)

I was like this for a while and then just got totally burnt out and afraid. Every line of code is a liability, and the liability compounds as things get more complex, and things only get more complex.

@tunguz I mean, it IS a good option to talk to people with PTSD, in order to learn about the experiences that gave them PTSD Does that somehow go away, because they also "make it" due to the PTSD experience?

Every CEO ever once they make it after the exit.

@kechogarcia At no point apparently. Because craft and care was getting lost, long before AI came to the scene and amplified the slop to insanity

If you spend 99% of your time filtering through slop, what's the whole point lol At what point is just faster to write the thing yourself with perfect and careful craft.

@anmolm_ @akhileshutup This assumes, everything that CAN be done, is also WORTH doing The problem with the leaders of the modern world

@akhileshutup if any retard can do it why don't you do it?

the founders of this particular company might be great. so are millions of other founders who have no access to "insider contacts" to be able to successfully raise 10s of millions of dollars on something that is already struggling in a country like india. 100% of startup delivering under 10 mins are losing money. the business has negative unit economics by nature. if burning money is the goal, this requires no great founders and any retard like me can do it. maybe i won't burn that much neither can i fool investors into something i know won't stand the test of the time.

@___4o____ @pmarca Once you understand that almost all the money in VC, is made in hype cycles It all becomes clear(er)

.@pmarca deleted 99% of his tweets about web3/crypto from before 2024. Stop looking at the dot com bubble and start looking at zirp/crypto cycle if you want to understand how AI will play out.

@LukeParkerDev If you can create a mechanism for telling a machine what to do, that is precise, concise, and can unambiguously suffice That IS a programming language It doesn't matter if the abstractions keep becoming higher

im am this close to crashing out. every AI just does dumb stuff unless you are so specific you may as well code. it can help for mass migrations once you've already done the shape and exact impl, and have a bunch of boring work. im so sick of trying to wrangle it lol

Well, I agree in principle, but I've always been skeptical of believing in the human force of will model of pushing against fundamentally harmful, addictive things Like can you use Tiktok in positive ways, by controlling yourself, and being deliberate with your usage? In principle, sure In practice however, almost everyone falls

@lahjar_ @camsoft2000 Yes and no. I think this is where going from being a vibe coder to a vibe engineer helps. The more you do, the more you learn and the less it feels like a bottomless pit. But definitely predatory in general since humans love the dopamine rush of gambling.

I’m getting to the point with one of the projects I work on where the complexity of AI slop is becoming a real issue. While I can still happily prompt the agent to add x feature and it will do so and it will likely work perfectly, the code is just getting too complex and fragmented. Agents love to copy and paste and keeping patterns DRY is a real challenge. The agent will start diverging all those copy and pastes until you’ve got loads of similar but slightly different blocks of logic. Again it all still works and solves the problem I’m after. But I just can’t get any kind of consistency anymore, the code is a mess and I just don’t have a handle on it. I want a clean unified architecture but agents just code with tunnel vision. The project is now too big and complex for an agent to fully reason with and too big and complex for me to reason with. The only real solution is a complete rewrite. Maybe this is the way things will go. Code will just become disposable. I don’t really want to care about the code and to be honest I don’t but I do care about consistency and maintainability and the AI slop is hurting those very things I do care about. I know some will say “I’m holding it wrong”, use x,y,z skill, tool whatever and already use tools and anti slop skills, plans, docs, etc but the outcome is the same. Vibe coding something into existence is truly magical. But turning it into a mature product with months of iterations is painful. I can’t even hand code this thing because I don’t understand the code anymore and I’m too lazy to try and code myself because I’m addicted to AI. So what’s the solution, either start again and accept that’s just the way we have to roll, or just carry on fighting the slop and accept each new feature will take longer to implement than the last. I’m tired. I’m addicted.

@straceX This is the way it has always been Neo There are no containers...

every developer is taught that to access an array, you write array[index]. but in C and C++, you can just... flip it. this code compiles perfectly and runs without a single warning. how the hell does 2[myArray] work?👇

There's a reason why people can't seem to put it down, and feel like they're drawn to keep working, while justifying it as some sense of urgency When you have a system that makes you feel like the next prompt will solve everything (the next slot will get you the jackpot), you HAVE to keep pushing And the way this architecture works, is that it never gives you a reliable, discernible failure state. So, instead of every feeling stuck, you just waste a bunch time on the slot machine It's ingenious in a horrible Moloch way

@lahjar_ @camsoft2000 I sort of captured this slot machine dysphoria here. x.com/Bingeljell/sta… now started weekly no-AI coding sessions so I can get better. Helps with overall skill anyway

@LLMJunky x.com/lahjar_/status…

we do. i see this all the time. it is like a slot machine in more ways than one not only is it addictive but every prompt will yield a different result. just one more pull. one more feature. the next query will fix that bug. gamble gamble

@AdiPolak If the loudest voices keep talking about a silicon god, instead of a tool You will keep hearing arguments about why that god isn't omnipotent, with evidence

We keep arguing about hallucinations as if reliability starts and ends with the model. It doesn’t. Reliable AI is usually an architecture story, not a prompt story.

For a short while. Until the honeymoon lasts Then the combined friction of maintaining the software at scale, adding features, managing security, Et cetera Will tip the scale back where it needs to be Hype cycles are always like this. Crypto said we're in a world where nobody uses fiat anymore

We are now in a world where the cost of vibe-building custom software is measured against the combined friction of search, payment, and learning someone else’s software.

Unless you're conducting memory level optimizations, these are the same things, in effect. If you are, you should be working in C, not C++ Also someone regularly working on a large C database will use tools for optimal field order, or attribute packing in the compiler, so that new developers don't make inadvertent mistakes

If your resume contains C++, you should be knowing these two are not same

@BrianNorgard @elonmusk His personal sense of self will tank into oblivion, if he does that It isn't about making the better decision

The thing I admire most about @elonmusk is he never became an investor.

@imperialauditor Principles are only meaningful, in the face of genuine cost and consequences

I sort of got a job offer at <it's complicated-but-probably-net-unethical-company> and it was really unnerving to notice my brain slowly watering down and reinterpreting the principles I held when there was no cost to holding them

@wholyv It's not the fault of the field Every hype cycle invites grifters, performers, and tourists, who crowd the space for a while

I like the intellectual side of X where everyone is an actual engineer, physicist, mathematician who know about what they are talking. not the AI/software dudes however. I don’t consider more than half of them to be intellectual enough. they are just regurgitating stuff.