Matheus Hunger

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Matheus Hunger

Matheus Hunger

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Um pouco de tudo. Todas as opiniões aqui são pessoais.

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Matheus Hunger@mathunger·
The Road Not Taken – Robert Frost Two roads diverged in a yellow wood, And sorry I could not travel both And be one traveler, long I stood And looked down one as far as I could To where it bent in the undergrowth; Then took the other, as just as fair, And having perhaps the better claim, Because it was grassy and wanted wear; Though as for that the passing there Had worn them really about the same, And both that morning equally lay In leaves no step had trodden black. Oh, I kept the first for another day! Yet knowing how way leads on to way, I doubted if I should ever come back. I shall be telling this with a sigh Somewhere ages and ages hence: Two roads diverged in a wood, and I— I took the one less traveled by, And that has made all the difference.
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Matheus Hunger@mathunger·
"Absorver a maioria dos SAAS". "1% das pessoas usam IA agêntica." Você leu o que está sendo proposto? Eu, você, somos uma bolha da bolha e que somos interessados/curiosos. Tem tanta empresa nesse planeta que até hoje não tem 1 engenheiro de software nelas, quiçá ela perceber que ela pode montar um hub de IA, entender como rodar nesse hub, entender como fazer os evals desse modelo local frente suas regras de negócios, tá me entendendo? Simplesmente não acredito em um mundo onde os "Saas sejam absorvidos em sua totalidade por agentes de IA" nos próximos anos. Até porque tem centenas de milhares de empresas, quiçá milhões, onde não tem equipe de dev, usa ferramentas genéricas que sequer atendem de forma absoluta as dores do negócio que buscaram resolver quando contrataram ferramenta X. Existe um abismo colossal entre o que se lê aqui no X versus como empresas operam no mundo real.
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Cris@cristianobnu·
@mathunger @Matheuxwill @odanielscott Estou desenvolvendo sistema personalizado pra gerenciar escolas e suas atividades. E câmeras de segurança (com áudio) analisam o contexto do que acontece, transcreve o que é falado. E a própria IA da sugestão do que tem que fazer no sistema da escola.
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Daniel Scott@odanielscott·
Meu palpite: Muitas empresas de SaaS, especialmente aquelas baseadas em inteligência artificial, vão começar a migrar da venda de assinatura para acesso ao software para a venda de resultados. Isto é: só vão ganhar se o usuário ganhar. Essa vai ser a tendência dos próximos anos, o RaaS (Results as a Service). Em vez de pagar por usuários, funcionalidades ou horas de uso, o cliente paga por chamados resolvidos, reuniões agendadas, vendas realizadas ou tarefas concluídas. Tirem print e me cobrem em alguns anos
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Matheus Hunger@mathunger·
E você está extrapolando exatamente o contrário, sem nenhum dado, eu estou extrapolando olhando o presente e a extrema dificuldade que todos os provedores está passando. Eu estou me baseando nos dados atuais, você está se baseando em uma expectativa futura que tudo mudará. Eu não preciso dizer mais nada né?
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Will I'm@Matheuxwill·
Você está assumindo que o custo computacional atual permanecerá igual e que 100× mais usuários exigirão 100× mais compute. Essa é uma extrapolação linear de uma tecnologia que está evoluindo em várias frentes ao mesmo tempo. O gargalo atual pode alterar o prazo, mas não invalida a direção, muito menos prova que levará décadas.
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Matheus Hunger@mathunger·
SE isso acontecer, é daqui muito muito tempo ainda. Pensa o seguinte: Menos de 1% da população usa IA agêntica atualmente e ela já está com a demanda completamente travada devido ao custo de computação necessário para servir esses modelos para essa base que é minúscula comparado ao mercado endereçavel total. Sequer temos modelos treinando robótica em escala (vídeos reais em alta qualidade no volume de milhões de horas). Eu não me surpreendo nada se daqui algum tempo, essas companhias simplesmente congelarem novos cadastros/acessos porque não conseguem mais compute/energia para seguir ganhando mais usuários e manter os que tem na base. E computação/energia é diferente de desenvolver o modelo de fronteira, é regulatório, é construção, são vários meses a 2.5-3 anos para subir um datacenter e demanda muito capital (materia prima + mao de obra) visto que é infraestrutura física.
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Will I'm@Matheuxwill·
@odanielscott No rumo que as coisas estão tomando, acredito que os agentes de IA das gigantes irão absorver maioria dos SAAS Não fará sentido pagar assinatura de um SAAS qlqr, quando se tem um agente com visão 360 da sua empresa, fazendo o end to end - e o melhor, sem custo com pessoas.
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Matheus Hunger@mathunger·
Pix is run and funded by Brazil's Central Bank. Banks that want to offer Pix (essentially all of them) pay a per-transaction fee to cover the system's operating costs. From there, banks are free to price it however they want. The standard practice is: Individuals and small/medium businesses: individuals are always exempt; SMBs are exempt in the vast majority of cases. A few institutions have tried charging SMBs, but adoption has been low. Large and enterprise-scale businesses: banks typically charge between 0.2% and 2%.
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Will Solfiac@willsolfiac·
I had no idea that Brazil has its own central bank-created payments system, used by over 80% of the population, where merchants pay 0.33% per transaction, compared to 1%-4% for Visa / Mastercard / Amex. If a government can save its businesses a few percent per transaction, and keep the fees in-country, why wouldn't they do it?
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Matheus Hunger@mathunger·
It all starts to make sense when even a country's MINISTER enjoys watching their national athletes shove and choke other players for the whole world to see. So is it cultural? Do you guys really feel energized and happy watching an Argentine act like a child and show a complete lack of self-control?
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totocaputo@LuisCaputoAR·
You’ve been whining and moaning like a spoiled little brat for the last four days, only to say today that you’re exultant because a team that wasn’t even playing against yours lost a game. At least show some dignity and stop embarrassing your British compatriots by talking about having class… Estuviste lloriqueando y quejándote como una criatura malcriada los últimos 4 días solo para decir hoy que estás exultante porque un equipo, que ni siquiera jugaba contra el tuyo, perdió un partido. Al menos demostrá un poco de dignidad y dejá de avergonzar a tus compatriotas británicos hablando de “tener clase”… @piersmorgan
Piers Morgan@piersmorgan

Disgusting behaviour by the Argentinians at the end, especially Paredes. Just a bunch of nasty violent thugs, and a disgrace to football. Never been so happy to see a team lose.

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Matheus Hunger@mathunger·
No, they don’t. I live here. We do have a lot of problems with how our corrupt governments have managed Brazil’s tax money for as long as I’ve been alive (I’m 30 years old). But Pix has nothing to do with it. What you’re saying is one of two things: pure ignorance, or you’re blatantly lying. Take your pick.
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Zanov@Zanov88·
@willsolfiac The government charges taxes from everyone to subsidize the system.
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Matheus Hunger@mathunger·
@Adolf_1899 @futtmais Não, são crianças que não tem a base da educação e respeito por outro atleta que fez o mesmo sacrifício que o seu para estar lá. Argentinos fazem isso na Sula, na Liberta, na Copa, na Champions, argentino não sabe perder, deve ser algo cultural.
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Gràcies Capita 🇦🇷 🇮🇱
@mathunger @futtmais Quem sabe perder aprendeu por hábito. Ninguém nasceu sabendo perder. Se meus jogadores se revoltam na derrota é exatamente pq nos últimos 5 anos ganhamos tudo que disputamos, só sabemos VENCER
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Futmais | Menino Fut
Isso não se faz com sujeito homem não, tá? Dando banda por trás e tapa na cara. Paredes foi muito otario.
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Matheus Hunger@mathunger·
Você ta avaliando um volante que tem Como funcão entregar controle do meio campo, do jogo e consistência defensiva com uma posicao ofensiva, nao faz nem sentido. Rodri foi quem capacitou a Espanha a levar um gol na copa, por isso o prêmio a ele, ele foi peça chave para uma das melhores campanhas na historia da Copa do Mundo. Nao me recordo outro campeao de Copa com apenas 1 gol levado.
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Vitor Sergio Rodrigues VSR
Rodri ser eleito o melhor jogador da Copa só pode ser uma determinação de premiar alguém da seleção campeã... Pelo menos três jogadores fizeram uma Copa melhor do que Rodri: Bellingham, Mbappe e Messi.
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Matheus Hunger@mathunger·
Rodri foi justamente o pilar para que tudo isso acontecesse, você mede atacante/meia ofensiva por gol. Você mede o 1o volante pelo que? Consistência defensiva, controle do meio de campo. Rodri fez perfeitamente sua função, igual os goleiros defenderam e o atacante fez gol, Rodri controlou o matamata e anulou França e Argentina. 100% merecido.
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Matheus Hunger@mathunger·
@Adolf_1899 @futtmais Não, vocês são crianças que não aceitam perder. Homens engolem e dirigem a derrota, não agem como crianças emocionadas.
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@futtmais Sim, o certo é perder sendo provocado pelo ODEGAARD e ficar só olhando igual um bando de puta mansa como sua seleção fez kkkkkk Dá palpite nas coisas do seu país que a gente cuida do nosso. Só chegamos até aí assim, ganhamos 22 assim e perderemos assim: SOMOS HOMENS
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Marcelo Cerize@MarceloCerize·
O próximo presidente vai herdar um país muito mais difícil do que a maioria imagina. Dívida pública em trajetória explosiva. Juros reais que inviabilizam o investimento. Empresas fechando em número recorde. Famílias afundadas em dívidas. Um Estado que arrecada como país rico e entrega serviços de país pobre. Além disso, um Judiciário caro, ineficiente e que invade competências dos outros Poderes. Um Legislativo que, salvo exceções, troca reformas por conveniências políticas. E uma sociedade que passou a tratar esperteza como inteligência e responsabilidade como ingenuidade. O primeiro passo para mudar essa trajetória é tirar o PT do poder. Foi ele que nos trouxe até aqui. Mas isso, por si só, está longe de ser suficiente. O Brasil precisará de alguém disposto a enfrentar corporações, cortar privilégios, reorganizar as contas públicas, recuperar a confiança e governar pensando na próxima geração, não na próxima eleição. Alguém sem rabo preso, com coragem para desagradar quem for preciso e competência para executar mudanças profundas. Flávio não tem a menor chance de cumprir esse papel. A pergunta que fica é: existe hoje alguém capaz de liderar essa reconstrução ou vamos apenas escolher o próximo administrador da decadência brasileira?
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Arthur D@Lintilla369·
@mathunger @NickADobos Original statement is that coding never was the bottleneck, this is true, just as u claim. This post claims building datacenters is creating value with AI, which is not true, that's is what I commented on.
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Matheus Hunger@mathunger·
What’s different from the world without AI? 90%+ of startups died back then too, and no one remembers them. Millions of entrepreneurs tried to build software without AI and never made a dime either. The difference is that the capital lost in the pre-AI era was far greater. If you couldn’t code, you had to sell equity and/or pay huge salaries to engineers just to get started. Seriously, I don’t see where you’re coming from.
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Matheus Hunger@mathunger·
Eu não sei como explicar isso em uma resposta no X, mas capital não terá tanto valor nessa hipotese de mundo que tu desenhou. Capital tem seu valor pq é a “moeda de troca atual” para você contratar inteligencia (humanos), isso era o ativo mais escassos até 2 anos atrás. Quando o seu ativo mais escasso e que demanda mais capital, é comodizado, ou seja inteligencia/robo por assinatura e/ou a forma que isso seja precificado no futuro, o dinheiro passa a ter um valor menor. O seu principal custo não é mais capital, mas energia e materia prima. Esses também serao barateados pelo proprio ciclo de IA+robotica se retroalimentando, criando um loop deflacionario para prestar qualquer serviço/produzir qualquer bem. Se o que você consome não é mais escasso devido a esse ciclo, o dinheiro perde totalmente seu valor. Nesse futuro hipotetico que tu desenhou, eu não entendo que cias de $1tri, $1bi, façam muita diferença. A nossa vida será muito mais encontrar um proposito, algo que vale a pena construir/viver e o capital simplesmente não será mais uma busca do ser humano. O problema principal do humano não será como enriquecer, mas como encontrar um sentido para sua propria vida.
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cansera ok@ManfroiRenato·
O problema (para as empresas) da IA é que um guri de 15 anos, fanatico por tecnologia, tera programas CRIADOS SOB MEDIDA pra ele , atraves de IA, onde eram necessarios milhares de programadores antes. ENTAO EE TERA TODO ESSE PODERIO PRA POR SUA INTELIGENCIA PRA FUNCIONAR. e, DO NADA, CRIARA NOVAS SOLUÇOES QUE FARA AS EMPRESAS QUE INVESTIRAM TRILHOES, NAO TER OQUE FAZER COM AQUILO. Empresa de trlhoes de dolares com uma unica pessoa sera comum. Sera um ciclo ininterupto de falencia e criaçao de empresas trilhonarias.
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Matheus Hunger@mathunger·
@rponte Caraca! Será que esse pessoal faz não faz uma auto-avaliação para identificar que a maior parte do trabalho dele está sendo um retrabalho e sua eficiência é extremamente baixa devido a isso?
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Principe do Oceano
o fluxo de trabalho geralmente eh assim: 1. altera codigo no vscode até compilar; 2. opcional: tenta rodar a class/script via main() + stdout; 3. push pro git; 4. deploy em shared env como dev ou stg; 5. abre browser, acessa app, executa fluxo manual; 6. quebrou? lê logs 7. r.e.p.e.t.e; gesuis amada 🤡
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entrar num projeto onde todo o time trata como normal não conseguir rodar a app localmente (nem debugar nem testar) me dói mais na alma do que a ausência de testes automatizados. eu lidava com esse problema em 2006 e até tolerava, mas 2026 não dá minha gente.
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Matheus Hunger@mathunger·
Dean, I really appreciate and enjoy reading your long, well-thought-out posts. X is the best place to talk about AI, but it's also a place with a lot of hostility. I can't imagine how unbearable it must be to face as much of it as you do. But... please, we need people reading and understanding what the main decision-makers at these companies are actually thinking. So... don't stop.
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Dean W. Ball@deanwball·
See what I mean? I accidentally generated a thousand words of manidis for making a predictive statement about what I think the government will (not should) do that even Will mistakes as a normative claim “by a lab employee.” Impossible to write as I used to.
Will Manidis@WillManidis

My friend Dean Ball has advanced an argument for the de facto protection of American frontier intelligence providers. Dean does not propose banning Chinese open-weight models. Banning things requires Congress. He proposes something more characteristic of the modern administrative state: every agency issues enough warnings, bulletins, and speculative security notices that no regulated company will risk touching them. Even a reader sympathetic to Dean would call this protectionism, and protectionism has a long history in America. More precisely, it's a proposal to use the informal, coercive power of the terminal, late-stage bureaucratic state to clear the American market of a cheaper frontier competitor to OpenAI or Anthropic. But throughout the history of American industrial protectionism, it has always had two features. First, it's done in the daylight, and two, it comes with a bill. In the spring of 1952, the United States was fighting a war in Korea. Truman concluded that a shutdown would endanger soldiers abroad and ordered the Secretary of Commerce to seize and operate most of the nation's steel mills. The Supreme Court sent him straight back to Congress in the Youngstown Steel case. Justice Black, writing the majority's opinion, begins with the rule that Dean's proposal is seemingly designed to evade: that presidential power "must stem either from an act of Congress or from the Constitution itself." It's easy to flatten the Youngstown decision into the proposition that the president could not seize a steel mill. Its actual lesson is subtler: that an emergency does not dissolve the difference between making a law and executing one, that the importance of the object does not create the authority, that the inconvenience of the regulatory process is not inherently a source of presidential power. Truman's approach failed not because steel was unimportant, but because it was so important that the constitutional bargain had to be made and the policy had to be carried through the front door. Much like policy proposals from the rest of the AI agenda, Dean is proposing a smaller action in formal appearance and a much larger one in practical effect. We will not ban Kimi, we will not prohibit it from use, and we will certainly not publish a rule declaring Chinese weights unlawful. But we will whisper about it. A regulator may even ask management whether it has considered the reputational consequences of relying on the Chinese model, but the agency certainly will never be coherent enough to ask anyone to stop. It merely ensures that continuing becomes professionally indefensible. This is how we grow the administrative state, with bureaucrats that we placed in these roles, without accepting responsibility for the actual process of governing. America has tried this experiment before. Operation Chokepoint didn't make payday lending, firearm sales, or any of the other seemingly distasteful businesses caught in its net illegal, but it encouraged banks to understand that serving legally disfavored customers would invite regulatory interest. We didn't pass a law, we simply just asked, "Are you sure you really want to be doing this?" Reputational risk was powerful precisely because it's not law. It has no limiting content. A regulator did not need to identify a violation or even a material financial risk. He only needed to make the bank afraid of being asked what was actually going on here. The analogy is almost embarrassingly exact to Dean's policy proposal. Dean need not prove that a Chinese model contains a backdoor, nor prove that it uses any more distillation than American models do. He simply needs to announce that there may be one. The agency does not need to order a company to stop using it, but simply ask whether management has considered the risk. The absence of formal policy is by design. The Supreme Court dealt with this technique in NRA v. Vullo. New York's financial regulator could not directly punish the NRA's speech, so she allegedly pressured the insurers and banks she regulated to sever their relationships with it. The Court's rule was unanimous: government officials may not use their offices to "coerce private parties" into suppressing what the government disfavors. The communication must be understood in the context of the regulator's power, including the regulated party's knowledge that the person offering advice can also investigate, prosecute, fine, and settle. The current administration has gone even further. In April 2026 the FDIC and OCC issued a final rule to prohibit regulators from criticizing institutions, formally or informally, on the basis of reputational risk, and from encouraging banks to deny services to lawful but politically disfavored businesses. In June, the federal banking agencies removed the remaining references to reputational risk from their supervisory materials. Dean is proposing that this administration recreate for AI the same machinery that all of us argued against when we were widely debanked. A government that can quietly remove Kimi from the market can also quietly remove gun makers, crypto companies, churches, newspapers, or American open-weight models from it. The bureaucracy does not remain attached to the intentions of those who staff it at the current moment. You don't get to build this machine just because your friends happen to be in office right now and keep it pointed at where you left it. Protectionism through a whisper is not a more modest protectionism than by law. Protectionism also has always come with a bill. OpenAI and Anthropic increasingly speak of themselves as national institutions. Their compute is "strategic infrastructure," their losses are "national security losses." Their competitors are not just competitors, but instruments of hostile states, and their access to power, chips, capital, copyrighted material, and public customers is a matter of national survival and great power competition. When Washington decided that the atom was too dangerous and too important to remain an ordinary private business, Congress created the Atomic Energy Commission and transferred the Manhattan Project assets and responsibilities to it. Production facilities and reactors were government-owned, and technical information sat under federal control, and private participation only returned later through a statutory licensing regime. The existential framing of the atom by its greatest proponents produced public control. When national security concerns helped to preserve AT&T's integrated position, that is, a monopoly, in 1956, Bell did not receive this protection for nothing. The consent decree required compulsory licensing of roughly 9,000 patents and restricted Western Electric's commercial activity outside the telephone system. The settlement diffused the inventions accumulated inside the protected monopoly into the broader economy before breaking it up just a few decades later. The pattern is really simple. It's not that every tariff necessarily demands nationalization. It's that the bigger the shield you are asking for, the bigger the bill you owe to the American taxpayer. And OpenAI and Anthropic have been unambiguous about asking for the biggest shields of all time. Listen to what they are asking for: public infrastructure, privileged energy, federal preemption of state law, favorable copyright treatment, government contracts, export controls, and a domestic market swept clear of their strongest price competitor, all filed under national security interests. And what do they want to pay? Almost nothing. OpenAI has floated giving 5% of the company to the American taxpayer. They would like the benefits of nationalization at the price of being an ordinary public company. There is also a profound moral hazard buried in Dean's proposal, as well as adjacent commentary on this. The labs say the Chinese companies distilled their models. Perhaps they did. Perhaps distillation matters. And perhaps the Chinese labs are running distillation attacks on scales that the Western labs are. I can't be sure of this. But if the reward for failing to secure an API is that the government removes the resulting competitor, the taxpayer is paying the lab to be careless. We know how to secure an API. Know-your-customer laws exist. Access controls exist. Extraction detection exists. If you spend some fraction of the hundreds of billions being raised to defend the asset whose theft is said to threaten the republic, you might be able to stop some of this. Theft remains theft when the lock is bad, but the owner of a badly secured store does not receive ownership of the street for his failure to protect it. Dean's fourth point is that open-weight AI ends in communism: the state builds the training runs and subsidizes the product of intelligence and gives the models away. But, at least for me, this is not a particularly Chinese idea, but one of the most American ones imaginable. The roads we build are public. Our radio spectrum is publicly allocated. The government funded the early internet and much of the research base behind modern computing. The state is welcome to build a platform, and American businesses are welcome to be built on top. Just because they're bad for our market position doesn't mean we get to call them Chinese in some fundamental way. There will be inference companies and application companies and security companies and fine-tuning companies and data companies and chip companies and 10,000 businesses we don't even have names for yet. A public road existing does not abolish the trucking industry, nor does it nationalize it. Sure, this may reduce the value of a couple trillion dollars of equity in the first generation of model companies, but it's certainly not communism. This technology may be civilizational without its present owners being permanent. And that is the thing that I feel like none of you will say out loud: that AI is welcome to be a civilizational technology when we ask for support, and an ordinary private product when anyone asks what the public receives in return. The United States has two honest options. First, treat AI as a competitive industry. Then the answer to Kimi is a better model, run cheaper and exported harder, with written rules excluding Chinese systems from defense, intelligence, and critical infrastructure when a concrete security case can be made. Or two, decide frontier AI is too important for ordinary competition. Protect the labs through pseudo-nationalization, guarantee there's a market for them, and exclude the rivals. But in that second case, the American taxpayer must be paid, likely through a majority of equity in these companies, if not full nationalization. What no one gets is that private upside, public infrastructure, government-mandated scarcity, and immunity from cheaper competition delivered through a late bureaucratic state issuing warnings is a disgusting ask for something that is easy to name: regulatory capture. There is a serious American argument for protecting industries that we can't afford to lose. But there has never been a serious argument for doing it invisibly, for free, through a bureaucracy instructed to manufacture fear, even if we can do it because our friends happen to be in office right now. If the labs want to be protected, they should ask for it in the way that Americans have always asked for it. In public. With a price.

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Matheus Hunger@mathunger·
@kelvinwaycrafts @AravSrinivas He's the CEO of Perplexity AI. Why do you think you know more about AI than someone who's actually building a model and an AI company? Interesting to watch the Dunning-Kruger effect live right now lol
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fghfgh@kelvinwaycrafts·
Sold to Oracle, a company that sells database software which has many opensource equivalents. Local hardware for LLMs is not a serious proposition anytime soon, You clearly have not looked into what is required to run even a gpt4 level model. The whole SAAS industry is based on companies gladly outsourcing every little software function in their business rather that having to maintain the compentency or the staff to do it in house.
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Aravind Srinivas@AravSrinivas·
At its peak, Sun Microsystems was valued at 205B (394B if inflation adjusted). Sold software in enterprise servers. Got disrupted by Linux, x86, and commodity hardware. Ended up selling to Oracle for 7.4B, losing 96% of its value. Open source models running on local hardware can have a similar impact given what’s going on.
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Matheus Hunger@mathunger·
@pedrobarretto_ Cuidado que dia 20 também cai o 50% extra, os planos vão ter 33% menos de uso a partir de segunda. Eu testaria só segunda para ver como será o consumo real de tokens a partir das mudanças.
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