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KenFarmer ⒶⓋ@KenFarmerTV·2h

What "historical context" does this need? The idea that women may have once suffered something has nothing to do with the most free women in history today. The data is clear. Women complained that men were not doing enough at home and most men stepped up.

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@Thomas_Anton12 @NOUS_PETROS @Awk20000 There are qualifier words in my statement. "Concrete economic" and "untethered to disproportionate investment" are very critical descriptors of the benefits I'm referencing. I did not make a "no benefits" argument anywhere.

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Thomas@Thomas_Anton12·1h

@michaelmor8410 @NOUS_PETROS @Awk20000 How can a technology be disruptive and have no benefits at the same time? Either it's disruptive and has many benefits, so people choose to use it, or it has no benefits and it's not disruptive at all because nobody is using it.

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yeet@Awk20000·2d

MoistCr1TiKaL comes out strongly against data centers in recent video and ponders if they're making people sicker due to hoarding clean water "AI data centers are actually the boogeyman..a scourge on this planet and a stain on civilized society..no normal ppl with functioning frontal lobes want data centers in their community, it is bad for them" "I've been getting conspiratorial..I was reading something that someone was sharing about like when a AI data center came through, and the impact it had on their water, cause that's a very common thing" "I'm not fully bought into it..but it's an interesting theory..what if the reason there's been seemingly so much more sickness, like it feels like ppl are getting sick more frequently now and a wide variety of illnesses just seem more common..what if AI data centers are hoarding all of the clean water..what if all the clean water is being diverted to the AI data centers and the normal civilians are just getting the sludge runoff..I don't think it's out of the realm of possibility..they are evil enough to do that" (Via penguinz0 on YT)

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@John03J "I think datacenters are bad and should all be shut down" - Giga Chad who makes a living off of the infrastructure of datacenters

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John❤️‍🔥@John03J·1d

guy who makes a living off of the infrastructure of datacenters: I think datacenters are bad and should all be shut down

MoistCr1TiKaL comes out strongly against data centers in recent video and ponders if they're making people sicker due to hoarding clean water "AI data centers are actually the boogeyman..a scourge on this planet and a stain on civilized society..no normal ppl with functioning frontal lobes want data centers in their community, it is bad for them" "I've been getting conspiratorial..I was reading something that someone was sharing about like when a AI data center came through, and the impact it had on their water, cause that's a very common thing" "I'm not fully bought into it..but it's an interesting theory..what if the reason there's been seemingly so much more sickness, like it feels like ppl are getting sick more frequently now and a wide variety of illnesses just seem more common..what if AI data centers are hoarding all of the clean water..what if all the clean water is being diverted to the AI data centers and the normal civilians are just getting the sludge runoff..I don't think it's out of the realm of possibility..they are evil enough to do that" (Via penguinz0 on YT)

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@PolarSodaCan @VitanNG AI burnt out your emotional self-regulation as well? Long term? Like how wages are still increasing (they're not), people are reproducing (they're not). You're proving my point; you're focusing on short term metrics without any contextual or foundational understanding.

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SodaDoge@PolarSodaCan·2h

@michaelmor8410 @VitanNG short term? short term? are you fucking retarded? AI productivity increase is compounding same way how industrial revolution had compounding growth where in a mere century, countries that industrialized, could dominate any country in the world that did not

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Vitan 🆖️@VitanNG·19h

Soon enough we'll all be looking at anti-Ai idiots the same way we look at anti-nuclear retards

MoistCr1TiKaL comes out strongly against data centers in recent video and ponders if they're making people sicker due to hoarding clean water "AI data centers are actually the boogeyman..a scourge on this planet and a stain on civilized society..no normal ppl with functioning frontal lobes want data centers in their community, it is bad for them" "I've been getting conspiratorial..I was reading something that someone was sharing about like when a AI data center came through, and the impact it had on their water, cause that's a very common thing" "I'm not fully bought into it..but it's an interesting theory..what if the reason there's been seemingly so much more sickness, like it feels like ppl are getting sick more frequently now and a wide variety of illnesses just seem more common..what if AI data centers are hoarding all of the clean water..what if all the clean water is being diverted to the AI data centers and the normal civilians are just getting the sludge runoff..I don't think it's out of the realm of possibility..they are evil enough to do that" (Via penguinz0 on YT)

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@PolarSodaCan @VitanNG Bot or can't read due to ai usage? I already agreed with short term productivity gains. The question was if real gains are maintainable, contradicted by the loss of users' core knowledge, and cognitive capacity. These seem necessary for fixing issues and innovating long term.

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SodaDoge@PolarSodaCan·3h

@michaelmor8410 @VitanNG AI can already perform surgeries and do analysis of medical imagery at higher success rate than humans, medical industries are worth trillions, just that one industry alone makes AI worth it, if you think AI isnt gonna change the world, you are simply retarded

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@Azanium_ @NOUS_PETROS @Awk20000 And? That argument can apply to you arguing with me as well. I'm allowed to oppose and work within my power to get rid of AI support. People will push back on ai whether you like it or not. There's no rule saying we can't.

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Ammonium@Azanium_·2h

@michaelmor8410 @NOUS_PETROS @Awk20000 Who is saying anything about "predicting long term profitability"? Certainly not me. As I said, people are using AI whether you like it or not, including with or without "an empirical study justifying it's use/productivity". There is no rule saying that they must have one.

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@Phorfeit @Azanium_ @NOUS_PETROS @Awk20000 Reframing completely lacking any connective rationale to simply not "clearly lay[ing] out" something, how genuine. Besides, the crash hasn't manifested yet, so your "seemingly obvious" dissimilarity doesn't even fit contextually. We're comparing the economic preconditions.

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Phorfeit@Phorfeit·5h

@michaelmor8410 @Azanium_ @NOUS_PETROS @Awk20000 You expect me to clearly lay out to you piece by piece that the 2008 was a systemic solvency and liquidity crisis and not a stock market sell off? As if saying "x investment=bad because speculative" is so revolutionary. Anthropic definitely resembles Pets. com😂

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@Phorfeit @Azanium_ @NOUS_PETROS @Awk20000 Haha. Okay dude. None of what you said disproves my previous points; you have to give rationales rather than assertions. All contain overinvestment in a sector due to economic perversions that seem to track abct. This is a waste of time; you have nothing to educate me on.

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Phorfeit@Phorfeit·13h

@michaelmor8410 @Azanium_ @NOUS_PETROS @Awk20000 The "AI bubble" isn't structurally similar to what caused either of those. Regardless the mere existence of China's aggressive investment into AI and the EU's scrambling to develop the necessary infrastructure to independently do so as well puts a hole in your argument.

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@Azanium_ @NOUS_PETROS @Awk20000 You do realize that people don't use loss leader "economics" (cute modification) to predict long term profitability? It's a marketing strategy employed with existing metrics to justify its use, which you still haven't, and won't be able to, demonstrate.

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Ammonium@Azanium_·17h

@michaelmor8410 @NOUS_PETROS @Awk20000 Yes, that's called loss leader economics. Not a new concept by any measure.

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@Phorfeit @Azanium_ @NOUS_PETROS @Awk20000 The dotcom bubble, the 2008 crisis, and the like would have a word with you. Do you think the effects of this misallocation of resources would have no effect on the perception of the already weak, debt ridden dollar and Americans' ability to milk their trade deficit?

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Phorfeit@Phorfeit·17h

@michaelmor8410 @Azanium_ @NOUS_PETROS @Awk20000 Whats you're point? That you're bearish on AI and that corporations are making a mistake they'll regret later? Cool bro I guess you can tell all the companies using it "I told you so" if it fails, nobody has a problem with you doing that.

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@glorpville @Azanium_ @NOUS_PETROS @Awk20000 We've spent over a trillion so far and ai companies are still operating on a loss. Evidence demonstrates declining cognitive capacity and skills of users, which predicts long term stagnation. No other technology based on largely abstract assumptions would get this much leeway.

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glorp@glorpville·18h

@michaelmor8410 @Azanium_ @NOUS_PETROS @Awk20000 How has its net economic effect been a loss?

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@Azanium_ @NOUS_PETROS @Awk20000 Like if someone were to offer you a technology to use at your business at a heavily discounted rate because some big investments currently paying the cost, you're now using in your workflow so it doesn't matter if the net economic effect has been a loss! Oh wait...

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Ammonium@Azanium_·20h

@michaelmor8410 @NOUS_PETROS @Awk20000 Your argument literally has no ground. People are already using AI as part of their workflow, no matter if there's an empirical study you like or not. People preaching for others to stop doing what they are completely allowed to do should at least have a good point

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@csa_appreciator Is it really a surprise Fuentes supports the authoritarian side, even if, as you say, it seems counteract things he professes to care about? The guy's only real care is for visible power, such as supporting figures like Stalin despite the ineptitude that predictably followed.

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CSA Appreciator@csa_appreciator·23h

Yeah! Imagine if the Confederacy had won and all the blacks had been allowed to stay in America! Thank goodness the Union won and shipped them all back to Africa.

S.clips@whitesocksclips

Nick Fuentes says the Confederacy was anti-White "The real redpill is that the Confederacy was not based. Think about it. These hillbillies k**Ied a million White people so they could keep black people in America." 💀

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@liquid2ulu In some form, it's possible. But, given the role central banking has in funding/enforcing these kinds of investments, you're being rather optimistic in defending any current iteration as necessarily productive beyond spending and believing that there's compatibility with ancap.

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LiquidZulu, most consistent mofo you know@liquid2ulu·22h

@michaelmor8410 You think datacenters cannot exist without central banking?

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LiquidZulu, most consistent mofo you know@liquid2ulu·1d

Much better. That datacenter will produce far more value than a random patch of trees ever could. Glory to man.

Michael@TheMG3D

Image from 2020 vs 2025 in Memphis, TN Via: Matter Neuroscience

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@NOUS_PETROS @Awk20000 Is choosing to invest in a technology implicitly making a positive claim for the affected community? And does it make sense to be attacking "water usage" arguments before defending the precondition with... more typical economic patterns? It doesn't seem you understood.

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Π•Ε•Τ•Ρ•Ο•Σ@NOUS_PETROS·1d

Burden of proof is a specific philosophical concept that demands one making the positive claim is required to supply evidence. You don't get to shift the burden of proof because you find the subject burdensome. In this case, the claim of AI using too much water requires proof, and doesn't have any.

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@NOUS_PETROS @Awk20000 And of all the legitimate discourse to be had, why are you engaging with the weakest arguments while acting as if the burden of proof for a potentially disruptive technology with no concrete economic benefits untethered to disproportionate investment belongs to those opposed?

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@Awk20000 Of all the legitimate discourse to be had around data centers, they always go to the water... unbelievably, unfathomably stupid.

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@RebeccaEmcee1 Normally, though, things pass through normal economic feedback to justify their allocation of resources. They don't receive a trillion dollars in investments before economic sustainability has materialized based on thought experiments. Otherwise, we'd all be communists.

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Rebecca Chan@RebeccaEmcee1·2d

Dude, EVERYTHING takes resources. Everything is a tradeoff. Data centers exacerbate water issues in some cases but there's no evidence they are taking all the clean water. And our lives DEPEND on data centers. You wouldn't have been able to upload this video without a data center

MoistCr1TiKaL comes out strongly against data centers in recent video and ponders if they're making people sicker due to hoarding clean water "AI data centers are actually the boogeyman..a scourge on this planet and a stain on civilized society..no normal ppl with functioning frontal lobes want data centers in their community, it is bad for them" "I've been getting conspiratorial..I was reading something that someone was sharing about like when a AI data center came through, and the impact it had on their water, cause that's a very common thing" "I'm not fully bought into it..but it's an interesting theory..what if the reason there's been seemingly so much more sickness, like it feels like ppl are getting sick more frequently now and a wide variety of illnesses just seem more common..what if AI data centers are hoarding all of the clean water..what if all the clean water is being diverted to the AI data centers and the normal civilians are just getting the sludge runoff..I don't think it's out of the realm of possibility..they are evil enough to do that" (Via penguinz0 on YT)

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@Creatus4 @miffyhazel @MongolianBeast1 @MeltingSnowBro People? Those are bots. And if not, well I don't know if they're people anyway.

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@michaelmor8410 @miffyhazel @MongolianBeast1 @MeltingSnowBro people actually liked his posts it's so over

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𝚂𝚗𝚘𝚠𝙱𝚛𝚘@MeltingSnowBro·1d

When you ask Charlie what's so bad about data centers