Michael Rawlings

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Michael Rawlings

@mlrawlings

Platform & Frameworks @ebay • @MarkoDevTeam • Open Source • Running • Slackline

Campbell, CA Katılım Nisan 2009

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Ryan Carniato@RyanCarniato·3 Eyl

There is hate for JS on the server. But none have accomplished what @MarkoDevTeam has. Forget Islands, forget serialization boundaries, forget writing code twice. Just declarative templates, low JS. @dylan_piercey joins me Friday to show how it's done. youtube.com/live/x-3RxGf4K…

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Michael Rawlings@mlrawlings·2 Ağu

@bobaekang @RyanCarniato Binding to member expressions is a recent addition and not supported by the preview we released a while back which is running in the playground. We'll have running examples to share soon!

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bobae 보배@bobaekang·2 Ağu

@mlrawlings @RyanCarniato i'm getting a compiler error for <input value:=input.value> on playground! #NobwRAdghgtgpmAXGAlhAJnAHgOhlAJwGsB7MAGjAAcoAXACyTAHoBjEmKkiOCWgZ2ZpMufMTKV2fXrSYAeADZxazaPAC8AHTAB3EgQXptAAmYA+TQU0Q5ASQhUArrWMA3KAsdxE6tXFNmYAC+5OB+TPZOtHiEpBTUdIzIbBxcPHyCkc4x4vFStDLyaFFuHl4+xdnunnCBQQC6QA" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">markojs.com/playground/#No…

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Michael Rawlings@mlrawlings·2 Ağu

I wrote a followup to @RyanCarniato's article on two way data binding and how we're approaching this in Marko dev.to/mlrawlings/two…

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Michael Rawlings@mlrawlings·31 May

@devagrawal09 In all seriousness, I liked the analogy youtube.com/clip/Ugkx-xGvX…

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Dev Agrawal@devagrawal09·31 May

probably the best thing about this episode is the chat

Glauber Costa@glcst

In 5 minutes, I will be hosting Tejas for a discussion about his life, and faith. twitter.com/i/broadcasts/1…

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Michael Rawlings@mlrawlings·25 May

@jacobmparis @AdamRackis Same

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jacob paris ▲@jacobmparis·25 May

@AdamRackis For what it’s worth I read it as you intended the first time

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Adam Rackis@AdamRackis·25 May

😣 he's right Client components can't read cookies during ssr—credentials: include does not work in ssr fetch call, nor can cookies be read in middleware for that call I'm about ready to give up on app dir for app development. Maybe Tanstack or Remix will ship something usable

Julius@jullerino

@AdamRackis I unfortunately never found much use for this data loading pattern. Looks awesome in practice but you dont have access to the request cookies in client components during SSR so the useSuspenseQuery wont be able to make authenticated requests

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Marko@MarkoDevTeam·8 May

Tim Cook@tim_cook

Meet the new iPad Pro: the thinnest product we’ve ever created, the most advanced display we’ve ever produced, with the incredible power of the M4 chip. Just imagine all the things it’ll be used to create.

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Michael Rawlings@mlrawlings·15 Nis

@dylan_piercey setImmediate queues a macrotask, so we end up with 3 macrotasks in the queue. however when the first one resolves and executes, it begins executing microtasks and doesn't get back to the macrotask queue before the log. Functionally it's equivalent to: gist.github.com/mlrawlings/a4a…

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Dylan Piercey@dylan_piercey·15 Nis

Note my question isn't entirely related to setImmediate, in the gist if you replaced setImmediate with `setTimeout` I'd also probably expect it to output `3` instead of one (unless the env does some batching).

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Dylan Piercey@dylan_piercey·15 Nis

Can anyone help me reason through the output of this gist? TLDR I'm trying to append to the micro-task queue after a macro-task so that I can track all of the completed macro-tasks. gist.github.com/DylanPiercey/0…

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Michael Rawlings@mlrawlings·25 Eyl

@_jessicasachs @kentcdodds If you have any examples you can share of where you dropped down to JSX out of necessity, I'd be interested in seeing them.

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jess@_jessicasachs·25 Eyl

@mlrawlings @kentcdodds What about it?

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Kent C. Dodds ⚡@kentcdodds·25 Eyl

JSX is great. When I moved from templates (Angular/Jade/mustache/etc) to JSX, it was a breath of fresh air to stop using a limited DSL to using something I could compile to regular JavaScript in my mind and allowed me to use real JS expressions. Huge win in my experience.

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Michael Rawlings@mlrawlings·25 Eyl

@_jessicasachs @kentcdodds twitter.com/mlrawlings/sta…

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@youyuxi @dylan_piercey @MarkoDevTeam I'd be interested to see some example libraries that make use of the render fn due to templating limitation and not just stylistic preference. Do you know of any OSS examples?

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jess@_jessicasachs·25 Eyl

@kentcdodds I love "dropping down" to use JSX w/ Vue when necessary and keeping presentational stuff or boring patterns in SFCs.

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Michael Rawlings@mlrawlings·21 Eyl

@kwesikwaa Hence Vue in the corner twitter.com/youyuxi/status…

Evan You@youyuxi

I love how when Composition API came out people were like "this is React hooks" And when Signals became the new hotness nobody mentions Vue

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Kwesikwaa❁@kwesikwaa·21 Eyl

@mlrawlings but vue had it long before the hype

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Michael Rawlings@mlrawlings·21 Eyl

Theo - t3.gg@theo

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Michael Rawlings@mlrawlings·23 Ağu

Chrome, Firefox and Edge show the url on hover. For some reason in Safari it's not enabled by default (to enable: View -> Show Statusbar). twitter.com/buildsghost/st…

Jamie Kyle is on 🦋@buildsghost

Breaking News: Web developer only ever tests in Chrome

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Michael Rawlings@mlrawlings·22 Ağu

How I know if something is a link

Jamie Kyle is on 🦋@buildsghost

In case you didn't know, you aren't supposed to be using `cursor: pointer` for every clickable thing. It's intended only for links. Microsoft and Apple both say this #hand-pointers" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">learn.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/… #Pointers" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">developer.apple.com/design/human-i…

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Michael Rawlings@mlrawlings·16 Ağu

@_developit @RyanCarniato If DOM Parts makes it into the spec, it seems like the integration that makes the most sense is allowing a Part to accept a standardized signal as its value. And Parts have their own batching. But then there's the question of how to coordinate "user-effects" with this batching.

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Jason Miller 🦊⚛@_developit·16 Ağu

@RyanCarniato As an example, the browser could defer subtree updates within `content-visibility:auto` containers, without requiring bookkeeping or exposing renderer state to JS. It could also force a sync read of bound signals when the subtree becomes visible, just before layout & paint.

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Ryan Carniato@RyanCarniato·15 Ağu

On second thought I do see why something like this may be challenging. While there is general agreement on correct pure derivation, this is implicitly creating effects and that is an area where different solutions should have domain.

Jason Miller 🦊⚛@_developit

@littledan @trueadm @EisenbergEffect @RyanCarniato @BenLesh ok here's a potential downstream win to consider

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Michael Rawlings@mlrawlings·7 Ağu

@JLarky Yeah idk. It's >=1. Both islands and resumability have the ability to eclipse each other and even SSR depending on the scenario and specific framework optimisations. twitter.com/JLarky/status/…

JLarky@JLarky

@Raynos It's 1 to 2 depending on if you use no client directives (just MPA), client:only (just SPA) or client:load (SSR) So it's going to be 1, 1, and 2. Depending on your page (same goes for RSCs depending on "use client")

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JLarky@JLarky·7 Ağu

@mlrawlings yeah, I was trying to figure out that part :) maybe 1.3? :)

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JLarky@JLarky·6 Ağu

SPA is the baseline SSR is running the same app twice and sending the data twice RSC is running the same app 1.5 times and sending the data twice Islands is running the same app 1.5 times and sending data 1.5 times Resumability is running the app once and sending the data once

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Michael Rawlings@mlrawlings·7 Ağu

@mhevery @JLarky MPA sends the data once in HTML form. Resumability requires sending not just the HTML, but also some additional state (values closed over by event handles/effects).

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