
Phil
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@ViviOrtiner @yoyofakowee @KatzenartigML @Johnny698192644 @YCFederation Then people started mocking me, I guess because they thought I think Jesus was European. I was going to leave it but I couldn't help responding to retarded nonsense like "Anthropologists don't study bones"
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@ViviOrtiner @yoyofakowee @KatzenartigML @Johnny698192644 @YCFederation My original point was just that it's ironic to call a picture of Jesus an anthropological reconstruction, when the whole point of Christianity is that the resurrection supposedly left no bones anthropologists could use for a reconstruction.
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@ViviOrtiner @yoyofakowee @KatzenartigML @Johnny698192644 @YCFederation I never said the approximation is nonsensical. I said it was not a basic reconstruction, because that would require access to the bones of Jesus. So it's necessarily speculative.
The fact that we don't have access to Jesus's bones is pretty central to Christianity.
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@phil2524 @yoyofakowee @KatzenartigML @Johnny698192644 @YCFederation The reason is because your argument makes very little sense. You argue that this approximation is nonsensical because Levantine Jews didnt look like that, but elsewhere you post that they used bones from the time period of natives from the region to make that estimation.
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@ViviOrtiner @yoyofakowee @KatzenartigML @Johnny698192644 @YCFederation 2) I'm happy to say Arabs and Levantines looked similar, but it's relative, and it's not unreasonable to make a distinction.
Lots of people think Japanese and Koreans look similar, but that doesn't mean we shoudn't note that they're different, with different characteristics.
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@ViviOrtiner @yoyofakowee @KatzenartigML @Johnny698192644 @YCFederation Thank you for your earnest reply. Not sure why I'm getting so much hate here.
1) I said anthropologists study bones because multiple people in this thread claimed that anthropologists do not study bones at all (only culture and artifacts). I never said they only study bones.
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@yoyofakowee @KatzenartigML @Johnny698192644 @YCFederation Which of the assertions I've made are false?
(1) The image is not a basic facial reconstruction; it is a speculative exercise.
(2) The ethnic composition of the Levant has changed in the 2,000 years between now and the birth of Christ.
(3) Anthropologists study bones.
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@phil2524 @KatzenartigML @Johnny698192644 @YCFederation Phil you could have sat this one out like I suggested.
Instead I think you need to have a 4-5 hour argument with AI. Pick your AI. Ask another AI if the answers are correct. And —this is key— try to learn something instead of dismissing it.
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@KatzenartigML @Johnny698192644 @yoyofakowee @YCFederation Colonial histories cause the ethnic composition of a place to change. For example, it would be incorrect to assume someone living in America 600 years ago would look like an American person today.
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@phil2524 @Johnny698192644 @yoyofakowee @YCFederation So basically, Peruvians, mexicans, bolivians, indians, arabs and africans are white cause all of them were conquered by the white nations
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@phil2524 @yoyofakowee @YCFederation 2+2=4 phil, how a palestinian born male would look like a norseman?
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@phil2524 @yoyofakowee @YCFederation Thanks for the assist, would be cool to know why then we shouldn’t trust their guess of what Jesus looked like
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@phil2524 @yoyofakowee @YCFederation Bro I don’t know what you’re on about but anthropologists don’t study bones or use bones to reconstruct, they study culture and use history and make an educated guess about what people looked like. Knowledge is free, no reason to openly be stupid.
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@yoyofakowee @huntarproxy @YCFederation The forensic anthropologists who created the specific image OP posted used the skulls of Semitic people found near Jerusalem.
It’s almost like anthropologists study bones.
popularmechanics.com/culture/a41336…
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@huntarproxy @yoyofakowee @YCFederation Anthropology is the scientific study of human beings, which includes human biology and human bones.
In the television show BONES what do you think the ANTHROPOLOGISTS are doing?
A 70-year-old boomer watching syndicated fox reruns is more educated on this than you.
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@phil2524 @yoyofakowee @YCFederation Anthropologists don’t study bones. just say you don’t know what the word means
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@Kekero63 @YCFederation Christians when they don't know about Cesare Borgia.
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@Johnny698192644 @yoyofakowee @YCFederation Yeah surely a Levantine Jew born 600 years before the Arab conquest would look exactly like the typical Middle Eastern looks person today. Famously that region of the world has experienced no ethnic displacements throughout history.
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@phil2524 @yoyofakowee @YCFederation He was born in the Middle East, it’s not too much of a stretch to think he would be… middle eastern. I swear I don’t know how you dumb motherfuckers even remember to breathe sometimes.
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@yoyofakowee @YCFederation Oh yes famously the bones of Jesus are available for anthropologists to use for a reconstruction.
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@YCFederation Basic Anthropological reconstruction. You know, science. We know for sure he wasn't a white Northern European.
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The problem with this is that it’s very obviously not correct. One presumes that we’d still have ordinary policing, the kind of policing that applies to literally everything else in life and is therefore not unique to housing. If we still had any kind of law and order at all, housing would very obviously not trade for zero dollars.
Matt Bruenig@MattBruenig
@Sheesh_barak @TheStalwart @xwanyex Correct. One way of putting it is that you don't actually buy land. You buy a voucher that you can redeem with the state at any time to have it violently exclude others from it. This "violence voucher" is what is valuable. The land, absent a violent voucher, would trade for ~$0.
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@Ed_of_O @n_zappala4 @cafreiman Lmao sorry big dog, I didn't realize I was talking to a seasoned parking lot investor. I should have known better than to apply common sense and basic logic against street smarts that can only be gleaned from years in the trenches studying parking lots.

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@phil2524 @n_zappala4 @cafreiman Oh, so you're all theory and not looking at how things actually go down in cities. Alright then. Take care.
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The justification for land ownership is not that owners created the land; it’s that private ownership incentivizes efficient use of the land, which is something society benefits from immensely.
James Medlock@jdcmedlock
No one created the land they live on. And yet they've been granted the ability to exclude others from it, backed by state force. All we ask is they pay the rest of society for the privilege to use this scarce resource, which itself derives much of its value from society around it
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@Ed_of_O @n_zappala4 @cafreiman If you think using the land as a parking lot is economically inefficient, then necessarily your WTP would be higher than his, and the difference becomes your profit.
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@phil2524 @n_zappala4 @cafreiman Why would a parking lot owner sell if the land value around them is appreciating quickly and they aren't taxed on their land value at all? Why wouldn't they hold for as long as possible until the market cools?
Why wouldn't an empty lot owner?
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@hunkenjoyer @MattBruenig @HoustonHizzoner @CohenM_deNunzio @xwanyex There’s a difference between “technological advancement” and “property”.
As it happens your statement about technological advancement is also false: eg. Benjamin Franklin invented the lightning rod and bifocals without specializing as a scientist/inventor.
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@phil2524 @MattBruenig @HoustonHizzoner @CohenM_deNunzio @xwanyex Not in a sustained, stable way it hasn't. Any technological advancement requires a lifetime of specialization, which can only occur if the specialists are able to outsource the immense amount of labor that goes into achieving relative social stability. This is what taxes provide
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