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Plastic Evader

@plasticevader

Thoughts about right-wing environmentalism and whatever I’m reading at the moment (geopolitics, mostly; but also farming)

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Christian Heiens 🏛
Christian Heiens 🏛@ChristianHeiens·
Republican primary voters do not care about your “principles”. They do not care about your “deep personal convictions.” They do not care how “concerned” you are. They care about two things and two things only: 1) Has Donald Trump has endorsed you? 2) Are you willing to fight the Left? That’s it. Nothing else matters. Show me which candidate meets those two criteria and you’ll be able to predict the winner of a GOP primary about ~90% of the time.
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Plastic Evader
Plastic Evader@plasticevader·
@xor_a_b @buhhhryan @boneGPT The Chinese Communist Party doesn’t have any communists?? I also don’t give a fuck what they are. They want to challenge American hegemony and that is bad for me.
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Frank@xor_a_b·
@plasticevader @buhhhryan @boneGPT you're a big sobby cuck and a degenerate for seeing commies where there's none keep spreading the slopaganda that's none of my concern
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bone@boneGPT·
"We loved America, but the empire is over. China disrupted the Republicans and the Internet disrupted the Democrats. So the next phase is China and the Internet." Are you out of your goddamn mind?
Balaji@balajis

You were extremely focused on the security piece, which is why we needed to discuss the emerging world order. (1) I am glad we agree the Internet will outlast the American Empire. You seem to also have implicitly conceded the Iran war is a disastrous loss, as you haven’t contested that. (2) On the rest, my view is: no, the US military is not actually hegemonic anymore. No, US manufacturing is unfortunately not going to return anytime soon. No, it’s not a question of “if China becomes so dominant.” That is already the current reality, and American Empire is getting rapidly wound down, and Trump’s Taiwan comments signal there isn’t going to be a war with China. (3) So what comes next? We loved America, but the empire is over. China disrupted the Republicans and the Internet disrupted the Democrats. So the next phase is China and the Internet. (4) What you seem to focus on is the question of whether new startup societies will instantly become full military sovereigns, able to fight and win wars with hostile powers bent on their destruction. (5) Of course they won’t, so they won’t even try. They will just operate peacefully within the limits of their host countries. The thing to emphasize is that you can get very far while doing that. (6) All the tech companies got to millions of user and billions of dollars without firing a shot. Cryptocurrencies did too. And the Internet is only getting stronger; no modern country can operate without drones, phones, robotics, AI, social. Not to mention other sectors like biotech and space. Tech is becoming the entire economy, every communication and transaction, every self-driving car and factory robot. (7) China will sell some tech to them, and the free Internet will build other parts. Tech talent will be a scarce resource for most countries not named China, which is why so many digital nomad programs are opening up. (8) And how will those countries attract tech talent? Like Chinatowns and Little Indias, but for tech. The Silicon Valley of Kazakhstan and the Silicon Valley of Poland and so on. Already a thing, but will become more of a thing. Tech as valued guests. We don’t need to fight a war to negotiate a network of special economic zones, tech parks, and nomad visas. And can get very far with nonviolence. (9) Just to give you a sense, here’s a map of some of the special economic zones in the world. We don’t need to fight for territory, because so many countries are already inviting the Internet in. openzonemap.com

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Pub@PubWanghaf·
America’s entire existence is a testament to our ability to defy the odds and conventional wisdom It’s what sets us apart from everyone else, and it’s what everyone else envies Rolling Stone intends this to be a backhanded compliment but in reality there is no backhand to it
Rolling Stone@RollingStone

COMMENTARY: Pratt is a quintessential American. His entire life has been fueled by an unfathomable level of self-confidence, despite a data set that suggests he may not be good at anything. rollingstone.com/politics/polit…

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taoki@justalexoki·
women should be pregnant all the time
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Plastic Evader
Plastic Evader@plasticevader·
@TonerousHyus @droob9908 @przgwxl @alexplitsas And China is absolutely fucked if we squeeze them on oil. Even Russia wouldn’t be able to make up for losses from the Mideast if we needed to cut them off in wartime and Chinese navy has nowhere near the power projection required to contest us all the way out on Hormuz.
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Alex Plitsas 🇺🇸
Alex Plitsas 🇺🇸@alexplitsas·
CENTCOM officials told me battle damage assessments support Admiral Cooper’s testimony about the level of degradation of Iran’s missile, drones, industrial base, navy, and Air Force. Iran still retains some capabilities but they are once point where they can be defended against.
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Plastic Evader@plasticevader·
@droob9908 @balajis @romanhelmetguy I have no idea. I’m sure there are dependencies but China also has major dependencies on oil imports for their war machine in a way that the US absolutely does not. So it’s silly to pretend we’re the only side which is vulnerable to that.
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Droob
Droob@droob9908·
@plasticevader @balajis @romanhelmetguy Is the assertion true that the US military is dependent on Chinese suppliers to function? Not being contentious, this is a legit question because I’ve seen it come up a few times over the years
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Balaji
Balaji@balajis·
PRINT OUT THE INTERNET Ok. Let me make it extremely concrete. Where did this giant sprawling datacenter come from? It was printed out from the Internet. Specifically, Zuck used the Internet to gather men, make money, organize materials, purchase territory, and shape it to advance Meta's goals. The principal such goal is, ultimately, the replication of Meta itself. This datacenter makes money in the cloud, which enables Zuck to purchase more land, which he repeats all over the earth. Think of it as viral growth, but in the physical world. Now extend that beyond Meta, towards any Internet tribe...such as your following. After all, where was your following built? Was it built one handshake at a time? No, it was built on the Internet. And where do you spend your time? Do you spend it convincing people in a small town? No, you probably spend it on the Internet. And where do you make your money, use your money, find your information, talk to your ideologically aligned friends? Again and again, the Internet. As Orwell said, to see what is in front of one's nose needs a constant struggle. The Internet is, right this moment, in front of your nose, as you're looking at your screen. Yet despite being the single most important force in the world, the thing that billions personally engage with for hours per day, the driving force that essentially didn't even exist in daily life just a few decades ago, perhaps the most popular thing humans have ever created...the Internet is still somehow underestimated. After all, the Internet is now much larger than America, with billions of users. The Internet is actually much wealthier too, as it's the only thing with global economic scale comparable to China. The Internet also now drives every single political and military event, from the initial Twitter-driven election of Trump and Brexit, to crypto and AI, to the advent of drone warfare. In fact, the Internet was in part built by America to outlive America. That's why Paul Baran of RAND proposed a packet-switched network, so that the Internet could resist a nuclear attack. ARPA eventually adopted the same blueprint on efficiency grounds. But Baran's initial idea remains important: even if the American state went down, the Internet's network would stay up. Concretely, what it means is that brilliant Americans designed a communications system that could survive even as everything else went down. So that we could restore America from cloud backup. We might need to draw on that property. We might need to print out the Internet, to organize social networks in the physical world, to gather peers together online to start building the societies we believe in offline. Because if we can print out a datacenter, we can also print out a new city.
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Roman Helmet Guy@romanhelmetguy

You should read this just to understand how silly these tech guys are when it comes to politics. Balaji thinks that if shit hits the fan in the USA, tech people can save themselves by fleeing to…the internet.

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terminally onλine εngineer
the productivity with LLMs discourse is very funny, people will vibe code something quickly see it works and then start to vibe code a bunch of stuff just because they can - missing the whole point of why it hasn't been done before, writing code was always the easy part
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Plastic Evader
Plastic Evader@plasticevader·
@aikidoeywa @balajis @romanhelmetguy I don’t understand any of this. I am saying it is stupid to suggest we lost but it is even stupider to suggest a failed air campaign (if you don’t believe my first claim) is somehow indicative of inability to take on China.
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Plastic Evader
Plastic Evader@plasticevader·
@jonkessler20 It’s just crazy to me, man. That there are otherwise half-way intelligent people who could think the success or otherwise of air campaign in Iran means anything about our readiness for China is wild.
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jon kessler
jon kessler@jonkessler20·
@plasticevader A lot of people don't so much think as parrot shibboleths either of the moment or memorized from long ago. That's it. It's that simple.
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Plastic Evader
Plastic Evader@plasticevader·
Makes me sad that people I used to look up to have become so fucking retarded. I can’t even begin to understand the lev of mind rape required to believe US decisively lost in Iran. We didn’t even deploy any fucking troops! What do those words even mean??
Balaji@balajis

(1) You only get a war if both sides think they have a chance of winning. But the US just lost decisively to Iran, so it's finally common knowledge, even within the US, that it can't possibly win against China. That means it won't fight. It will instead invade Latin American countries like Cuba. (2) The study showing that China dominates US military supply chains was funded by the US military itself, not a rival nation state. There are many like it; look at the recent CSIS study (csis.org/analysis/unite…) which says US missiles run out within a week. Again, can't fight your factory. (3) Third, Trump himself recently all but admitted that the US is withdrawing gradually from Taiwan and won't travel 9500 miles to fight a war (x.com/visegrad24/sta…). (4) Boston started as a city and then joined up with other cities/colonies. Yes, it got independence in a war, but dozens of countries have gotten independence nonviolently, including India, Singapore, and many more. Those independence movements happened as the British, French, and Soviet empires withdrew. And now the American empire is withdrawing, so many new places may become independent. (5) Now, will every place in the world have security issues when America leaves? Maybe, though it might turn out differently. Many countries will just have to bend to a new regional hegemon as the American Empire withdraws from Eurasia and leaves them hanging. Roughly speaking, that hegemon may be Russia in North Asia and Eastern Europe, Iran perhaps for West Asia, China for East and Southeast Asia, and TBD for South Asia as India still has Pakistan to deal with. (6) Not every country will easily fold into that regional hegemon. As the American Empire withdraws, various countries will likely go nuclear, like Turkey, Japan, Germany and possibly South Korea, Poland, Brazil, and Australia. Both for military protection and for energy given the fuel crisis. The Iran war will accomplish the opposite of proliferation. (7) Anyway, in this world, many things will change, and much will be unpredictable, and possibly much conflict will ensue, but the Internet remains. That's the constant we can count on. Not American policy, not even the continued existence of the USA as we know it. Only 36% of Democrats are "proud to be American", the US has $175 trillion in compounding debt, and even Elon couldn't fix the budget deficit. (8) I suppose we differ on what we think is realistic. I know the Internet works, I know we've built improbably gigantic things from the Internet, and I know the US government doesn't work. So I think the Internet may outlast the American empire, just as Christianity outlasted the Roman empire, and we should rebuild from the Internet. But regardless, I hope I'm wrong, that the US magically somehow fixes all its issues. And of course I wish you the best. Be well.

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Plastic Evader
Plastic Evader@plasticevader·
@aikidoeywa @balajis @romanhelmetguy It legit doesn’t matter, man. Pretending that achieving or not our objectives in Iran (where we used a small fraction of our military capacity) has any bearing on our preparedness for an all-out war with China is laughably absurd.
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Plastic Evader@plasticevader·
@balajis @romanhelmetguy Man you are really one of the stupidest fucking people on this site aren’t you? I didn’t even read the rest of this drivel, if you think the US decisively lost in Iran (how that could even occur given we deployed a total of 0 troops I’m not quite sure…) you are retarded.
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Balaji@balajis·
(1) You only get a war if both sides think they have a chance of winning. But the US just lost decisively to Iran, so it's finally common knowledge, even within the US, that it can't possibly win against China. That means it won't fight. It will instead invade Latin American countries like Cuba. (2) The study showing that China dominates US military supply chains was funded by the US military itself, not a rival nation state. There are many like it; look at the recent CSIS study (csis.org/analysis/unite…) which says US missiles run out within a week. Again, can't fight your factory. (3) Third, Trump himself recently all but admitted that the US is withdrawing gradually from Taiwan and won't travel 9500 miles to fight a war (x.com/visegrad24/sta…). (4) Boston started as a city and then joined up with other cities/colonies. Yes, it got independence in a war, but dozens of countries have gotten independence nonviolently, including India, Singapore, and many more. Those independence movements happened as the British, French, and Soviet empires withdrew. And now the American empire is withdrawing, so many new places may become independent. (5) Now, will every place in the world have security issues when America leaves? Maybe, though it might turn out differently. Many countries will just have to bend to a new regional hegemon as the American Empire withdraws from Eurasia and leaves them hanging. Roughly speaking, that hegemon may be Russia in North Asia and Eastern Europe, Iran perhaps for West Asia, China for East and Southeast Asia, and TBD for South Asia as India still has Pakistan to deal with. (6) Not every country will easily fold into that regional hegemon. As the American Empire withdraws, various countries will likely go nuclear, like Turkey, Japan, Germany and possibly South Korea, Poland, Brazil, and Australia. Both for military protection and for energy given the fuel crisis. The Iran war will accomplish the opposite of proliferation. (7) Anyway, in this world, many things will change, and much will be unpredictable, and possibly much conflict will ensue, but the Internet remains. That's the constant we can count on. Not American policy, not even the continued existence of the USA as we know it. Only 36% of Democrats are "proud to be American", the US has $175 trillion in compounding debt, and even Elon couldn't fix the budget deficit. (8) I suppose we differ on what we think is realistic. I know the Internet works, I know we've built improbably gigantic things from the Internet, and I know the US government doesn't work. So I think the Internet may outlast the American empire, just as Christianity outlasted the Roman empire, and we should rebuild from the Internet. But regardless, I hope I'm wrong, that the US magically somehow fixes all its issues. And of course I wish you the best. Be well.
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Roman Helmet Guy
Roman Helmet Guy@romanhelmetguy·
None of what you’re saying supports your conclusions. If China could really shut off the US military, then of course China and the US will go to war. It’s just that China would win. And your little internet cities would be at its mercy. And Boston wasn’t a city state, it was part of a colony of the British Empire. To gain independence, it had to team up with other colonies and create a huge nation state. Crypto has really broken your guys’ brains. You are not a decentralized token. You have a physical location. That physical location can be bombed. Honestly your reasoning is so bad that it’s hard to tell if you earnestly believe what you’re saying, or if you’ve just been co-opted by (oh what irony) a rival huge nation state.
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2BitSalute
2BitSalute@2BitSalute·
@tekbog It’s good for generating code you don’t know how to write and that you don’t need to maintain. Scripts, PDF generators, that kind of thing
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