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Justin Drake
Justin Drake@drakefjustin·
Today is a monumentous day for quantum computing and cryptography. Two breakthrough papers just landed (links in next tweet). Both papers improve Shor's algorithm, infamous for cracking RSA and elliptic curve cryptography. The two results compound, optimising separate layers of the quantum stack. The results are shocking. I expect a narrative shift and a further R&D boost toward post-quantum cryptography. The first paper is by Google Quantum AI. They tackle the (logical) Shor algorithm, tailoring it to crack Bitcoin and Ethereum signatures. The algorithm runs on ~1K logical qubits for the 256-bit elliptic curve secp256k1. Due to the low circuit depth, a fast superconducting computer would recover private keys in minutes. I'm grateful to have joined as a late paper co-author, in large part for the chance to interact with experts and the alpha gleaned from internal discussions. The second paper is by a stealthy startup called Oratomic, with ex-Google and prominent Caltech faculty. Their starting point is Google's improvements to the logical quantum circuit. They then apply improvements at the physical layer, with tricks specific to neutral atom quantum computers. The result estimates that 26,000 atomic qubits are sufficient to break 256-bit elliptic curve signatures. This would be roughly a 40x improvement in physical qubit count over previous state-of-the-art. On the flip side, a single Shor run would take ~10 days due to the relatively slow speed of neutral atoms. Below are my key takeaways. As a disclaimer, I am not a quantum expert. Time is needed for the results to be properly vetted. Based on my interactions with the team, I have faith the Google Quantum AI results are conservative. The Oratomic paper is much harder for me to assess, especially because of the use of more exotic qLDPC codes. I will take it with a grain of salt until the dust settles. → q-day: My confidence in q-day by 2032 has shot up significantly. IMO there's at least a 10% chance that by 2032 a quantum computer recovers a secp256k1 ECDSA private key from an exposed public key. While a cryptographically-relevant quantum computer (CRQC) before 2030 still feels unlikely, now is undoubtedly the time to start preparing. → censorship: The Google paper uses a zero-knowledge (ZK) proof to demonstrate the algorithm's existence without leaking actual optimisations. From now on, assume state-of-the-art algorithms will be censored. There may be self-censorship for moral or commercial reasons, or because of government pressure. A blackout in academic publications would be a tell-tale sign. → cracking time: A superconducting quantum computer, the type Google is building, could crack keys in minutes. This is because the optimised quantum circuit is just 100M Toffoli gates, which is surprisingly shallow. (Toffoli gates are hard because they require production of so-called "magic states".) Toffoli gates would consume ~10 microseconds on a superconducting platform, totalling ~1,000 sec of Shor runtime. → latency optimisations: Two latency optimisations bring key cracking time to single-digit minutes. The first parallelises computation across quantum devices. The second involves feeding the pubkey to the quantum computer mid-flight, after a generic setup phase. → fast- and slow-clock: At first approximation there are two families of quantum computers. The fast-clock flavour, which includes superconducting and photonic architectures, runs at roughly 100 kHz. The slow-clock flavour, which includes trapped ion and neutral atom architectures, runs roughly 1,000x slower (~100 Hz, or ~1 week to crack a single key). → qubit count: The size-optimised variant of the algorithm runs on 1,200 logical qubits. On a superconducting computer with surface code error correction that's roughly 500K physical qubits, a 400:1 physical-to-logical ratio. The surface code is conservative, assuming only four-way nearest-neighbour grid connectivity. It was demonstrated last year by Google on a real quantum computer. → future gains: Low-hanging fruit is still being picked, with at least one of the Google optimisations resulting from a surprisingly simple observation. Interestingly, AI was not (yet!) tasked to find optimisations. This was also the first time authors such as Craig Gidney attacked elliptic curves (as opposed to RSA). Shor logical qubit count could plausibly go under 1K soonish. → error correction: The physical-to-logical ratio for superconducting computers could go under 100:1. For superconducting computers that would be mean ~100K physical qubits for a CRQC, two orders of magnitude away from state of the art. Neutral atoms quantum computers are amenable to error correcting codes other than the surface code. While much slower to run, they can bring down the physical to logical qubit ratio closer to 10:1. → Bitcoin PoW: Commercially-viable Bitcoin PoW via Grover's algorithm is not happening any time soon. We're talking decades, possibly centuries away. This observation should help focus the discussion on ECDSA and Schnorr. (Side note: as unofficial Bitcoin security researcher, I still believe Bitcoin PoW is cooked due to the dwindling security budget.) → team quality: The folks at Google Quantum AI are the real deal. Craig Gidney (@CraigGidney) is arguably the world's top quantum circuit optimisooor. Just last year he squeezed 10x out of Shor for RSA, bringing the physical qubit count down from 10M to 1M. Special thanks to the Google team for patiently answering all my newb questions with detailed, fact-based answers. I was expecting some hype, but found none.
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I feel my brain is outdated, I don't know AI, I don't know quantum, and I'm still using elliptic curves. but....I know OBFUSCATION!
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TL;DR: Bitcoin and Ethereum are NOT broken. But the threat timeline just got shorter. Why it's NOT a reason to panic: • No such quantum computer exists today: current machines have thousands of qubits, not hundreds of thousands • The engineering gap between today's hardware and a cryptographically relevant quantum computer remains enormous • They didn't even publish the actual circuits, just a ZK proof that the circuits exist. If Bitcoin were already broken, they'd have shown it directly. Why it IS worth paying attention to: • This is the most credible, rigorously substantiated resource estimate to date, from a top quantum team • The responsible disclosure angle is novel, they used a Groth16 ZK proof to validate results without leaking attack details • The window for orderly PQC migration exists but is narrowing • Some chains (Algorand, QRL, Abelian) are already deploying PQC in production
Project Eleven@projecteleven

🚨 Google has sounded the quantum alarm 🚨 Today, they released groundbreaking progress towards breaking crypto using a quantum computer. TLDR - Existing cryptography is dead. Mempool attacks are real. We must migrate to post-quantum now. Thread 🧵

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DEGEN NEWS@DegenerateNews·
NEW: GOOGLE RESEARCH STATES THAT MOST BLOCKCHAIN TECHNOLOGIES AND CRYPTOCURRENCIES RELY ON VULNERABLE ECDLP-256 - “WHILE VIABLE SOLUTIONS LIKE PQC EXIST, THEY WILL TAKE TIME TO IMPLEMENT, BRINGING INCREASING URGENCY TO ACT” SOURCE: research.google/blog/safeguard…
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Project Eleven@projecteleven·
🚨 Google has sounded the quantum alarm 🚨 Today, they released groundbreaking progress towards breaking crypto using a quantum computer. TLDR - Existing cryptography is dead. Mempool attacks are real. We must migrate to post-quantum now. Thread 🧵
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傅盛@FuSheng_0306·
Amazon裁了14000人。Meta内部备忘录泄露:空出来的岗位,由AI顶上。 这次裁员的逻辑变了。
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Vibe coding feels exactly like the early days of the internet when we couldn't stop scrolling our phones. It’s that same addictive hit of instant feedback, but instead of consuming content, you’re building it. My only concern is the long-term cost. If we get too used to the shortcuts, we might lose the mental stamina for deep, foundational problem-solving. We’re gaining speed, but we might be losing the very technical intuition that makes a great builder.
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Michael Saylor
Michael Saylor@saylor·
Over the past 30 days, $STRC has been less volatile than every company in the S&P 500—and every major asset class—while delivering an 11.5% dividend yield.
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lfzkoala :))@punctured_LZ·
@DennisonBertram We don't really need to do it via VC right now. Altcoins have been down to a low valuation, we can buy them as another way to writing checks if we still believe they will win. For those don't have coin listed, I agree.
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Dennison@DennisonBertram·
I was speaking with a very famous investor in the crypto space known for calling nearly all the big wins and tops. They said they stopped writing checks into crypto almost two years ago. “There are no more early venture opportunities in crypto” I think about that often.
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World Foundation
World Foundation@worldcoinfnd·
1/ World Assets, Ltd. has now closed a series of OTC sales for a total of $65,000,000 with four counterparties over the past week, the first of which settled on March 20, 2026.
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unusual_whales
unusual_whales@unusual_whales·
BREAKING: We just gave Claude access to the entire options and stock market. It's the Unusual Whales MCP Server. It plugs directly into any AI assistant and gives it live, structured data on demand. Build a trading bot. Build a finance dashboard. Build whatever you want.
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Andrej Karpathy
Andrej Karpathy@karpathy·
- Drafted a blog post - Used an LLM to meticulously improve the argument over 4 hours. - Wow, feeling great, it’s so convincing! - Fun idea let’s ask it to argue the opposite. - LLM demolishes the entire argument and convinces me that the opposite is in fact true. - lol The LLMs may elicit an opinion when asked but are extremely competent in arguing almost any direction. This is actually super useful as a tool for forming your own opinions, just make sure to ask different directions and be careful with the sycophancy.
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From hitting Claude code limits as my daily routine, to the excitement of using Gemini directly in Chrome, it is clear we are fully in the AI era now. The more I use it, the more big questions come up. AI is clearly accelerating resource consumption. I get the feeling humanity will not realize the danger until we are on the brink of running out. By then it might be too late. Sourcing resources from beyond Earth could be our only real solution. At the same time, this highly efficient AI world makes me realize how much we still need the “human touch.” That real emotional feeling comes from my childhood Chinese New Year trips back to the village. The elders would boast and praise each other so much that every year felt easy, and no one ever talked about the hard parts. Maybe in the AI age, the best thing we can do is let the agents do the heavy work while we keep the stories and the warm feeling. This brings me to the agentic side. AI agents are going to manage billions on-chain, but we still do not have the right cryptographic tools. There is no fine-grained delegation and no privacy-preserving authorization. Giving them your private key is crazy. Approving every transaction manually totally defeats the purpose. It is time to treat AI agents as cryptographic assumptions themselves. The best part is how they turn messy human emotions and trust into clean protocol consensus: clear rules, identity checks, and goal alignment that let them work together smoothly and quickly without all the usual human friction.
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elvis
elvis@omarsar0·
NEW AI report from Google. Every prior intelligence explosion in human history was social, not individual. These authors make the case that the AI "singularity" framed as a single superintelligent mind bootstrapping to godlike intelligence is fundamentally wrong. This is directly relevant to anyone designing multi-agent systems. They observe that frontier reasoning models like DeepSeek-R1 spontaneously develop internal "societies of thought," multi-agent debates among cognitive perspectives, through RL alone. The path forward is human-AI configurations and agent institutions, not bigger monolithic oracles. This reframes AI scaling strategy from "build bigger models" to "compose richer social systems." It argues governance of AI agents should follow institutional design principles, checks and balances, role protocols, rather than individual alignment. Paper: arxiv.org/abs/2603.20639 Learn to build effective AI agents in our academy: academy.dair.ai
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lfzkoala :))@punctured_LZ·
bad news coming on friday every week, absorbed during the weekend, everything becomes normal on monday.
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lfzkoala :))@punctured_LZ·
AI is clearly accelerating resource consumption. I get the feeling humanity won't realize the danger until we're on the brink of running out. And by then, it might be too late. That’s why sourcing resources from beyond Earth might be our only real solution
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Rialo@RialoHQ·
The future of institutional finance isn’t a patchwork of oracles and bridges, it’s a unified stack. The @RialoHQ team is at #DAS2026 in NYC all week. We’re here to show how our verification driven stack brings speed, privacy, and real-world connectivity to the industry. Spot the team (@itachee_x, @BobbyZagotta, @curiouskendre, @soumeya, and @0xChanglu) at an event or DM to link up!
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ZachXBT@zachxbt·
@circle @FastCompany How come Circle froze the USDC balance of 16 unrelated hot wallets late yesterday for a civil case? A basic review of onchain activity makes it obvious they are operational wallets. You fail to protect users during actual incidents yet respond to a request riddled with errors…
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