@igfield73 @Jamesara @tnewtondunn I don’t know what you’re talking about. It’s entirely irrelevant to my point.
Please explain why my original statement was wrong.
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@rorywbean @Jamesara @tnewtondunn The same nonsense was spewed out by the FBPE crowd after Brexit. "list the tangible benefits of leaving the EU". Anti democratic twaddle.
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There is an escape route for Labour from certain disaster at the general election: use their Commons majority to ram through PR. It’s cynical, + they’d never govern alone again, but it locks Reform out of No10. The left (Lab, Gr, LD) still have a majority over the right in the UK
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@igfield73 @Jamesara @tnewtondunn …so I guess this bunch of off topic yap is evidence that you can’t dispute it, gotcha.
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@rorywbean @Jamesara @tnewtondunn What I find is cry babies shout this sort of nonsense when a vote goes against them. The only reason there are less public votes is because those in charge are terrified of the peasants. In Durham we voted against a unitery council at the same time we voted against devolution.
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@igfield73 @Jamesara @tnewtondunn There is just as much evidence from that referendum that the British public wanted more extreme PR rather than the watered down AV+ offered, as there is evidence that they don’t want PR at all.
This is why referendums are completely useless and absurd, and should be avoided.
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@Jamesara @tnewtondunn This would be a major constitutional change, it's not some bureaucratic nicety. The British people voted against it in a referendum. I reckon they would find it very uncomfortable. However this is the most undemocratic government in my lifetime, so who knows.
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@DJtheDentist @langofmind You wouldn’t bear any moral responsibility just because a fraction of the population decide, completely of their own will, to hold themselves hostage and demand you save them.
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@langofmind Nah, you're leaving out the important part that blues die if red succeeds. There will always be a portion that vote different for whatever reason:
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Love that we're doing this again, but let's settle it for good. This is a linguistic framing effect. Compare current framing to:
If you choose red button, you live no matter what.
If you choose blue button, you live only if a majority also choose blue.
Tim Urban@waitbutwhy
Everyone in the world has to take a private vote by pressing a red or blue button. If more than 50% of people press the blue button, everyone survives. If less than 50% of people press the blue button, only people who pressed the red button survive. Which button would you press?
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@neeratanden @TheOmniLiberal How can anyone take you seriously, even if your overall point could have truth to it, if you “evidence” it with obviously false or misleading statements. I’m also sure you’re completely aware of how misleading they are, but that doesn’t stop you using them,
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Love you guys but you've given him more airtime than some people considering a run for President
Sorry if I think it's important to state out loud on here my disagreements with a guy who says it's ok to murder people, Jews are inbred, America was responsible for 9/11 and Russia was right to invade Crimea, amongst other insane things.
Jon Favreau@jonfavs
Zero people have tried to make Hasan Piker "the spokesman for Democrats." He showed up at one campaign event with one candidate in a primary and sat for some interviews. What's embarrassing is the number of people on here treating him like he's a 2028 contender or DNC Chair.
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@NicholasTyrone How anyone can look at American politics and the obvious success of the Mamdanis, the Platners and the Talaricos, and conclude the Democratic Party needs to move further right, is beyond me. Zero political instincts, and frankly you deserve to lose.
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This isn’t all that far from the truth. The Democrats need a presidential candidate next time who is almost achingly American in every sense and like Magyar, fairly right-wing on most stuff.
Everything Price Sufferer (but especially eggs)@agraybee
Democrats must take a lesson from Orban's defeat and nominate someone named Johnny America.
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@Billywhizzles @campbellclaret Must be weird to genuinely believe that Alistair Campbell, of the pro-free market neoliberal New Labour, who was expelled from the Labour Party for voting against democratic socialist Jeremy Corbyn, is a socialist.
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@campbellclaret Must be weird to genuinely believe that socialism has been a success and will dig the EU and UK out of the economic and societal cesspit where they currently are.
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Have bagpipes - will play a lament for the career of Viktor Orban … I told him that eventually the populist tide would turn
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@KiddJthe @thehorizon2b2t I’m not sure how you think evolution can create advanced enough technology to launch rockets in such high gravity? Sure, it could eventually be figured out, but I don’t see what evolution has to do with it.
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@thehorizon2b2t Well their world would have also developed under intense gravity so there’s likely been evolutionary pressure to counter or account for this.
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curious would it be like physically impossible for any intelligent species living on kepler to launch a rocket into space? like its already barely possible to launch a rocket from earth so I imagine if gravity was just a little larger you'd be kinda fucked
Jaia@Jaiathalien
Earth 2.0 exists it’s called kepler-452b and it’s 1.5 billion years older than our sun meaning it has been potentially hosting life before our planet existed
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@KBearK99 @KobeissiLetter There is literally zero basis for this statement. This is essentially a textbook definition of a strawman argument.
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@rorywbean @KobeissiLetter No, I agree we are experiencing base reality. My response is that without this reality we would pretend it does not exist.
Yes that is ironic. It is on full display with our European “allies”
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BREAKING: Iran has delivered its highly anticipated "10-point" response to the US' "15-point peace plan."
Iran's 10-point plan includes:
1. Guarantee that Iran will not be attacked again
2. Permanent end to the war, not just a ceasefire
3. End to Israeli strikes in Lebanon
4. Lifting of all US sanctions on Iran
5. End to all regional fighting against Iranian allies
6. In return, Iran would open the Strait of Hormuz
7. Iran would impose a Hormuz fee of $2 million per ship
8. Iran would split these fees with Oman
9. Iran to provide rules for safe passage through Hormuz
10. Iran to use Hormuz fees for reconstruction instead of reparations
President Trump's "deadline" for a peace deal with Iran is 25 hours away.
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@KBearK99 @KobeissiLetter …..what?
We are experiencing a base reality which you are arguing against, and your argument is that if this reality did not exist, I wouldn’t acknowledge it?
Do you see the irony here at least?
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@rorywbean @KobeissiLetter Yes and if they were not you would continue with keeping your head buried in the sand. That’s kinda the point.
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@KBearK99 @KobeissiLetter This doesn’t really answer the question. We all know if Hormuz stays shut long term that prices will eventually stabilise. The fact of the matter is that today, presently, US consumers are feeling the price increases.
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Pricing is temporary. The president of the USA has the right to restrict export of US oil which will stabilize US supply short term until those in need of Brent choose to stabilize the Brent pricing. Price for Venezuela oil will go up oil infrastructure will be built by US companies and demand for Brent will be decreased. At such time US restrictions will be reduced or eliminated. Oil pricing will again stabilize at a price economies & there people can absorb.
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@KBearK99 @KobeissiLetter Basic supply and demand dictates that US consumers will pay more for their gas regardless of whether it’s domestically sourced or not.
If you wanna fix this you’d have to engage in some sort of nationalisation, but I imagine that’s too socialist for yall.
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Actually we do not need a peace plan just like we do not need the gulf oil.
Contrary to popular belief it is many of our allies & friends that do. It will be in service to those folks to hand the Straight to them to police in name of freedom and a lesson of what freedom requires!
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@MInthenow70635 Maybe Thatcher shouldn’t have used Scotland as a testing ground for incredibly unpopular and unfair tax policies then
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Scotland is so screwed.
They just seem to flip between Labour and the SNP in the hope that either party of far left imbeciles will miraculously become competent after a term without power.
Election Maps UK@ElectionMapsUK
🚨 | Holyrood Nowcast: 🎗️ SNP: 55 (-9) - 35.0% | 30.1% - 10 Short. 🌹 LAB: 21 (-1) - 18.1% | 16.8% ➡️ RFM: 19 (+19) - 17.2% | 16.8% 🌍 GRN: 12 (+4) - 7.9% | 12.1% 🌳 CON: 11 (-20) - 10.5% | 11.2% 🔶 LDM: 11 (+7) - 9.2% | 9.1% Changes w/ 2021. Explore: electionmaps.uk/nowcast/holyro…
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@leftrestoration Before the “green ascent”, Reform were polling much higher and projecting landslide seat majorities. Here they are shown as a likely equal coalition partner with the conservatives in government with a small majority. Not sure what you’re getting at?
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The cold hard proof that the green ascent means a Reform government
Stats for Lefties 🍉🏳️⚧️@LeftieStats
@LordAPolls 🗳️ Projected seats based on Ashcroft survey: ➡️ Ref: 174 (+169) 🔵 Con: 168 (+47) 🟢 Grn: 119 (+115) 🟠 Lib: 62 (-10) 🟡 SNP: 47 (+38) 🔴 Lab: 31 (-380) Based on @LordAPolls, 26-30 Mar (+/- vs GE2024)
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@DavidJFoord @CulturedThug01 @AaronBastani Economic liberalism is like, a fundamental part of the right wing and conservatism. It’s literally definitionally the foundation of free market capitalism. If you are not economically liberal, you support further state intervention ie socialism.
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Easily the most competent centre-right government since 2010.
Politics UK@PolitlcsUK
🚨 NEW: The Government says bus passengers in all of England will be able to start tracking their bus in real time through Google Maps from tomorrow
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@rorywbean @CulturedThug01 @AaronBastani I agree, Neoliberalism is left wing. Hence the liberal part.
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@rorywbean @CulturedThug01 @AaronBastani Can you explain why we have policies like; open borders, socialized medicine, rent controls, minimum wages, etc, then?
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@omnissiuntone @technopopulist Explain how this isn’t what he meant
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I think Simon Dudley should be defended. I sincerely hope he isn’t fired, because it would set a very dangerous precedent in British politics.
I read the interview in full, and a lot of the allegedly controversial remarks have clearly been taken out of context. He was trying to make a point, admittedly clumsily, about the trade-offs between health and safety regulations and the supply of new housing. His argument was that the balance isn’t quite right, that while safety is obviously a noble aim, it isn’t something that can be pursued without limits.
At root, he was saying that risk can never be completely eliminated, and that there are real-world consequences to trying to do so through endless regulation. You can disagree with that, but it’s a legitimate argument.
The framing was clumsy, but sacking him over it would have a chilling effect on political debate.
Politics UK@PolitlcsUK
🚨 NEW: Reform UK's housing chief Simon Dudley says post-Grenfell safety regulations have gone too far "Everyone dies in the end. It’s just how you go, right? You can’t stop tragic things from happening. Fires do happen" [@theipaper]
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