@Stephen3372 @phildstewart And how do you plan to supply your war effort in the middle east then?
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schulu
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@phildstewart There are approximately 35,000 to 36,400 U.S. military personnel stationed in Germany. Bring them home!!
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BREAKING - HEGSETH ORDERS WITHDRAWAL OF 5,000 TROOPS FROM GERMANY, TO BE COMPLETED OVER NEXT SIX TO 12 MONTHS
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Der neueste Trend, um Engagement zu melken:
Finden Sie das:
A) Doof
B) Super
C) Ein Weißbier bitte.
Nichts gegen Monetarisierung, aber hier auf Twitter ist sie gehörig schief gegangen, weil aktiv Dreck promoted wird.
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@KilianLoeser @ZukunftFair Wieso sind Sie nicht in der Lage eine direkt Antwort zu geben?
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Kilian Löser spielt wieder mit dem falschen Publikum.
Wer einen Höcke-verklärenden Hetz-Account zitiert, wertet dieses Milieu auf. Da hilft auch kein „just sayin“.
Christdemokratie heißt nicht, Menschen als „Sekten“ abzutun und nebenbei Rechtsaußen-Codes zu bedienen. Wer Verantwortung tragen will, sollte wissen, welche Räume er öffnet.
Entweder christdemokratische Haltung oder rechter Applaus. Beides zusammen ist Heuchelei.
Zur Einordnung: Der von Ihnen zitierte Account ist nicht irgendein harmloser Satire-Account, sondern seit Jahren Teil eines einschlägigen rechten Empörungsmilieus. Solche Accounts wurden früher nicht zufällig immer wieder sanktioniert. Bevor Musk übernahm!
Denken Sie einmal darüber nach, wen Sie da politisch aufwerten. Wer sich als Christdemokrat versteht, sollte nicht dort fischen, wo Höcke verklärt wird. Das ist kein Ausrutscher. Das ist ein politisches Signal.
Kilian Löser@KilianLoeser
Wir haben für mein Gefühl zu viele Sekten mit jeweils zu vielen Anhängern bei uns im Land. Just sayin aber jetzt lass ich erstmal den Schlaf durch Kopf und Herz fließen. Wir können das als Land noch schaffen.
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@StayGadot @JeremyCliffe I wonder what those troops are the US wants to withdraw, the US africa command maybe? Aside from one Striker brigade there are no US fightings troops in Germany.
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@JeremyCliffe Option b is unrealistic given the economic realities facing W Europe.
For decades, W European nations have starved their militaries in favor of lavish social welfare spending that no elected politician will dare slash.
Thus Europe will be very vulnerable in event of US withdrawal
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There are two ways Germany could take the news that US is pulling 5k of its 37k DE-based troops:
a) Panic, flee back to the old protector, flatter Trump in the hope of reprieve
b) Accept and advance: Europeanise 🇩🇪's huge defence investment package, embrace strategic autonomy
Jacqui Heinrich@JacquiHeinrich
Pentagon confirms US withdrawing 5k troops from Germany Chief Pentagon Spokesman Sean Parnell tells FOX: “The Secretary of War has ordered the withdrawal of approximately 5,000 troops from Germany. This decision follows a thorough review of the Department’s force posture in Europe and is in recognition of theater requirements and conditions on the ground. We expect the withdrawal to be completed over the next six to twelve months.”
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@ajii1anderson @Reuters So what are you moving out of our country? The US Africa command, or the logistics elements you need for ypu war in Iran?
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@Reuters US pulling 5,000 troops out of Germany. Big move. Shifting military posture in Europe. Iran conflict probably playing a role in this decision.
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US withdrawing 5,000 troops from Germany, US officials say reut.rs/4d0LNO0 reut.rs/4d0LNO0
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@DingleberryJoe @michaeldweiss You should consume less propaganda and more facts.
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@michaeldweiss Will they give up their two months of government-paid vacation to fund this military build up?
Also, given that Europe is all "net zero" and "no nuke" ... where are they going to get the energy to power their reformation?
Europe is dead. And fully Islamized.
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@Jim1967Roth @PaulNiland The troops stationed there arent protecting Germany, but serve mostly your interest in rhe middle east and africa.
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@PaulNiland Why?
Why is protecting Germany in our best interest? Why is taking a hostile stance against Russia in the USA's interest?
We have never been in a hot war with Russia. We have been in 2 costly wars with Germany. Both had Russia as our ally.
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Dear friends in America.
It should bother you that your President is taking orders from the KGB man in the Kremlin.
Seriously.
Removing your troops from Germany is a betrayal of US interests, and there's a word for such betrayal.
OSINTtechnical@Osinttechnical
Trump, just hours after talking to Putin, says the US is considering the withdrawal of some troops from Germany.
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@NoNameMan47 @PaulNiland You want to relocate the US african comand from germany to Poland for what reason?
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@PaulNiland You don’t think your little king Z would love to have 20k US troops in Poland right next to Ukraine? 🤡
US have 40k in Germany, why not spread them out instead of having them all in 1 location?
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@schulu91 @PaulNiland Did you read your post! Same thing! Deterrent to Russia. The purpose has not changed. Everything for NATO is about Russia. They are always crying to the U.S. saying that Putin wants to take over Europe.
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Something a lot of people don't see. Trump thinks US troops in Germany are there to protect Germany. They're not.
They're there because the US needs the bases to be able to carry out US operations beyond the north American continent.
Trump doesn't understand this basic fact.
Rep. Don Bacon 🇺🇸✈️🏍️⭐️🎖️@RepDonBacon
The continued attacks on NATO allies are counterproductive. The comments hurt Americans. I commanded the huge Ramstein AB in Germany. The two big airfields in Germany give us great access in three continents. We are shooting ourselves in our own feet.
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@MotowarriorX @PaulNiland Ramstein airbase is used as a suply hub for your wars in the middle east and africa, that has nothing to do with deterring russia.
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@MotowarriorX @PaulNiland That was their original purpose, however today the US troops in Germany are there for US power projection.
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@PaulNiland Wrong! They are there as a deterrent to Russia aggression. Why was NATO established? Dumb-ass post
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@pappaconda12 @Ander_Bruckes Agreed, with the exception of Merz being explicit. There was a vunch of might and ifs in front of every sentence.
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@schulu91 @Ander_Bruckes I agree that the decision is theirs to make, and that is precisely why Merz should not have been so explicit.
Ukraine may be willing to give up on the military recapture of the lost lands, but it will certainly not recognise them as Russian. And on this point, we must stand firm.
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Merz, che non è nemmeno uno dei peggiori (pensa come siamo messi in Europa), parla di cessioni territoriali da parte dell'Ucraina.
Le classi dirigenti occidentali non hanno capito che mostrarsi deboli come fa Merz è la strada verso l'apocalisse.
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Jürgen Nauditt 🇩🇪🇺🇦@jurgen_nauditt
Merz suggests Ukraine may have to accept territorial losses to pave the way for EU accession – Reuters. German Chancellor Friedrich Merz suggested on Monday that Ukraine might have to accept, in a future peace agreement with Russia, that part of its territory would remain outside Kyiv's control. He linked such concessions to Ukraine's chances of joining the European Union. "At some point, Ukraine will sign a ceasefire agreement; at some point, hopefully, a peace treaty with Russia. Then it could happen that part of Ukrainian territory is no longer Ukrainian," Merz said on Monday. Merz neglected to mention that this was due to incompetent politicians like himself, because they did not provide sufficient support to Ukraine despite their promises.
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@pappaconda12 @Ander_Bruckes And its their choice if they want to keep fighting or accept a loss of land, if such a deal is on the table.
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@pappaconda12 @Ander_Bruckes This was a discussion with school kids, not an official statement infront of the parliament. I dont think that this statement does any harm to Ukraine. This entire war is unacceptable, but if the russian state doesnt collapse, i dont see Ukraine winning back all of its territory
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@pappaconda12 @Ander_Bruckes No that one is accurate. But as you can see there he is not talking about Ukraine having to accept territorial loss to get EU membership, but that Ukraine should have a credible path to membership so Selensky can "sell" territorial losses in a referendum.
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@schulu91 @Ander_Bruckes Here's the statement. So?
Is the English translation not correct?
reuters.com/world/europe/m…
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@pappaconda12 @Ander_Bruckes Have you even listened to the original statement? I guess not, otherwise you would not fall for this nonsense.
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@Ander_Bruckes Uscita assurda questa di Merz.
Se anche pensasse che l'Ucraina debba fare concessioni, taci! Non mandare pubblicamente un segnale di debolezza.
O almeno specifica che saranno per tregua provvisoria e MAI de jure (fondamentale per il diritto internazionale). Invece no.
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@roybatty1704 @NAFOvoyager But that's exactly what he meant.
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Absolute support from our allies is truly impressive.
“Ukraine must officially recognize the loss of its territories in order to join the EU,” — German Chancellor Friedrich Merz.
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Anna@AnnaDeMilanese
.@bundeskanzler: "Irgendwann wird die Ukraine ein Waffenstillstandsabkommen unterzeichnen, irgendwann wird es hoffentlich einen Friedensvertrag mit Russland geben. Dann wird möglicherweise ein Teil des Territoriums der Ukraine nicht mehr ukrainisch sein. Wenn Selenskyj das der Bevölkerung vermitteln will und dafür von der Bevölkerung eine Mehrheit bekommen will und Selenskyj muss eine Volksabstimmung machen, dann muss er der Bevölkerung sagen, aber ich habe für euch den Weg nach Europa geöffnet. Und das muss glaubwürdig von uns beantwortet werden. Wir dürfen dann nicht sagen: "irgendwann dürft ihr mal kommen". Sondern wir müssen sagen, "ja, es gibt einen konkreten Fahrplan, einen Schriftwechsel wie ihr herankommen könnt an die europäische Union". Und dass sind die ersten Schritte, die irrevisibel sind und die letztendlich in die Vollmitgliedschafft in die europäische Union führen. Das wird lange dauern, aber wir müssen anfangen. Jeder Weg beginnt mit dem ersten Schritt."
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@aioli8518 @NAFOvoyager This post is a gros misrepresentation on what Merz actually said. He said Ukraine needs a credible path to EU acession in order for Selensky to win a referendum over a hypothetical peace deal that admits territorial losses.
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@NAFOvoyager Why? Other EU countries also have territorial issues, too (e.g., Cyprus, Greece and Spain). They're full EU members, nevertheless.
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@NAFOvoyager just when you think we are united when Trump is quiet something like this pop-up
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