SRINIK

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SRINIK

SRINIK

@srinik23

New York, NY Katılım Mart 2011
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SRINIK
SRINIK@srinik23·
@A_May_MD @ezmoneymonty @deathtouch2k and here people had all the data and just waiting for few last inputs on jun1 presumably they had 52 weeks to get ready to get last figures and make bids i realize m&a unpredictable but not sure why abvx couldn’t have planned to start auction jun1 evening
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Adam May@A_May_MD·
Incredibly good work here. Well worth the time it takes to read - very very rare that you can get free access to work of this caliber. The $ABVX “cancer scare” days are numbered, IMO.
deathTouch@deathtouch2k

Based on our conversations with the buy side and sell side, one thing is clear: the market is still struggling to define the actual safety bar for $ABVX. Specifically: how many non-NMSC events would ABTECT Maintenance Part 2 need to show before FDA reviewers or sophisticated pharma BD teams should become concerned that obefazimod may have a true carcinogenic signal, rather than background malignancy events in a refractory UC population? We provide our analysis and conclusions below. Said simply: under our assumptions, $ABVX would need to show a malignancy burden far beyond one or two incremental cancer cases before the bear case becomes statistically and biologically coherent. When a drug trial reports a handful of cancer cases, the natural question is: is this a real signal, or just bad luck? A drug study with 150 patients over one year will almost certainly see some cancers — because UC patients get cancer at a background rate even without any drug. In fact, even otherwise healthy people get cancer at a background rate without any drug. The real question is whether the number of cancers seen on the drug is more than we would expect by chance from that background rate alone. Enter statistics: the formal language of separating signal from bad luck. In this case: what is the event burden and pattern that is high enough, coherent enough, and biologically plausible enough to overcome a low causal prior to obefazimod being carcinogenic? This is exactly the kind of question Bayesian inference is useful for answering. Our Bayesian inference model asks a simple question: Given an estimated background non-NMSC incidence rate of ~0.5/100 PY, how many additional non-NMSC events would need to appear in the next ~450 PY of 50 mg exposure before the pooled 50 mg maintenance dataset begins to look meaningfully above UC background? At ~0.5/100 PY, the expected background incidence over ~450 PY is roughly 2–3 non-NMSC events. Our model suggests the upcoming 50 mg Part 2 update would need to show something closer to 10 additional events above background — roughly 14 total non-NMSC events in the pooled ~600 PY 50 mg maintenance dataset — before the posterior begins to suggest a >50% probability that the true obefazimod non-NMSC rate exceeds the upper bound of UC background. We favor a Bayesian inference framework in these cases because it contemplates the data through a lens similar to that of what we believe an FDA reviewer and pharma regulatory teams would look through: exposure-adjusted rates, confidence intervals around those rates, event heterogeneity, organ clustering, baseline UC cancer risk, prior therapy risk, timing of exposure, investigator attribution, and whether the pattern resembles a broader immunosuppressive AE phenotype. Most importantly, with this approach we do not need to assume obefazimod causes cancer. In fact, the causal prior should be low because there is no obvious a priori hypothesis for obefazimod causing cancer, including clean preclinical work, no clustering to a specific cancer type, no broader adverse event pattern associated with impaired immune surveillance, and investigator assessment that the disclosed prostate and breast cancer cases were unlikely related. Thus, the analysis is not whether “observed cancers divided by patient-years is greater than zero.”; that is coarser than the data allows. The question is whether the observed event pattern is adequate to overcome a low causal prior. We estimated background malignancy IRs across an aggregate 7000+ PY based on a synthesis of Colombel et al. (2017), Rubin et al. (2026), D’Haens et al. (2023), Swissmedic (2024), Sands et al. 2026, Abreu et al. (2022), and Sandborn et al. (2019), and arrived at an estimated non-NMSC IR of 0.5, which is the midpoint of the range provided by management in the Part 2 primer deck published earlier today (ir.abivax.com/static-files/7…). We use 0.5/100 PY as the non-NMSC IR as the background prior of our model. Our analysis allows us to use 7000 PY as the weight of that prior probability. Then, we ask how many non-NMSC events need to be observed in the ~450 PY from Part 2 for the aggregate obefazimod non-NMSC IR to indicate that the true obefazimod non-NMSC rate exceeds the UC patient background upper bound with at least 50% probability. We set the PY reported in ABTECT Maintenance Part 1 according to management feedback. An estimated background non-NMSC IR prior of 0.5/100 PY is at the midpoint of the range provided by $ABVX management and implies an expected 2-3 non-NMSC events per 450 PY. Our model suggests that the ABTECT Maintenance Part 2 update for the 50 mg dose would need to show 10 additional events over and above those background events in 450 PY (i.e., total of 14 non-NMSC events) before the pooled 600 PY maintenance dataset (Part 1 + Part 2) for the 50 mg dose to indicate a greater than 50% probability that the true obefazimod non-NMSC rate is greater than the upper bound of UC background rate, when the observed non-NMSC IR begins to possibly be considered elevated above background expectations. Even when we cut the prior probability weight in half to 3500 PY, the conclusions remain unchanged: ABTECT Maintenance Part 2 update for the 50 mg dose would need to show 7 additional non-NMSC events over and above the number of events expected given the background IR before the pooled 600 PY maintenance dataset (Part 1 + Part 2) for the 50 mg dose to indicate a greater than 50% probability that the true obefazimod non-NMSC rate is greater than the upper bound of UC background rate. Said differently, the key risk is not that another cancer event occurs; the UC and IBD literature documents an expected incident rate for non-NMSC at their background rate (0.3-0.7/100 PY). The key question is whether the next ~450 PY expected from the Part 2 50 mg arm is consistent with the drug-driven malignancy hypothesis: repeated non-NMSC events, organ clustering, biological patterning, exposure-duration logic, or a broader immune-surveillance signal. That is what our model tests. If the next cut instead shows low-count, disparate, background-plausible events, the current obefazimod-driven malignancy argument becomes increasingly difficult to sustain. But what about Rinvoq? They didn’t see a big imbalance? This is not a Rinvoq/Xeljanz-style RA safety signal, where a nearly 4,500-patient outcomes study produced a statistically significant malignancy and immunosuppressive AE cluster in line with an a priori safety hypothesis prior. So far, these few malignancy observations are easily explainable by the background rate of UC cancer in this population especially, and mechanistically, there is also no obvious reason to believe obefazimod should be carcinogenic. If anything, Qin et al. (miRNA-124 in Immune System and Immune Disorders - PMC) discuss miR-124 biology in anti-proliferative and anti-fibrotic contexts, though we would not underwrite an anti-cancer effect here. Against the magnitude of efficacy demonstrated by obefazimod to date: ~50% clinical remission versus ~10% placebo, plus large effects on endoscopic remission, HEMI, steroid-free remission, and sustained remission that is life-altering; these non-NMSC events do not appear to alter the risk-benefit equation. We do not think these disclosed data support a black box. A black box for what appears likely to be background artifact would risk causing net harm to patients by creating unnecessary friction around delivery of a novel and highly efficacious therapy. A brief comment on NMSCs: Based on our diligence, including conversations with former FDA review leadership responsible for evaluating new IBD drug approvals, NMSCs are most commonly basal cell carcinoma and cutaneous squamous cell carcinoma. Importantly, these cancers are: 1) very common; 2) very slow growing; 3) very visible; and as a result, 4) very treatable and curable. These cancers are rarely metastatic, and very rarely fatal. There is published evidence that IBD patients appear to be at elevated rates of NMSCs, hypothesized to result from either higher baseline persistent inflammatory processes and/or thiopurine use. In fact, clinical guidelines published in April 2025 following an expert panel from the American Gastroenterological Association Clinical Practice Update provided specific guidance that all adult patients with IBD should follow skin cancer primary prevention practices by avoiding excessive UV exposure, that patients on immunomodulators, anti-TNF biologic agents, or small molecules should undergo yearly total-body skin exam, and that patients with any history of thiopurine use should continue yearly total-body skin exam even after thiopurine cessation. In the cohort study, the incidence of NMSC was higher among patients with IBD compared to controls (IRR 1.64, 95% CI 1.51–1.78). Recent thiopurine use was associated with NMSC (adjusted OR 3.56, 95% CI 2.81–4.50), and persistent thiopurine use was associated with NMSC (adjusted OR 4.27, 95% CI 3.08–5.92). While, prior to our analysis, we were not concerned that the FDA or pharma would view elevated NMSC rates as a major issue, we were concerned that investors might continue to misclassify them as a serious systemic malignancy signal. However, based on recent conversations with other buysiders, we sense the market is beginning to understand that NMSCs are not a meaningful issue here: they are generally detectable, manageable, and already incorporated into the standard-of-care dermatologic monitoring framework physicians use for UC patients. For completeness, we repeat our Bayesian inference analysis as described above but for NMSC. Taking the NMSC background IR of 1/100 PY provided by management today, we expect 4.5 cases in a 450 PY dataset. Our model suggests that the ABTECT Maintenance Part 2 update for the 50 mg dose would need to show 12 to 13 additional events over and above those background events in 450 PY (i.e., total of 21 NMSC events) before the pooled 600 PY maintenance dataset (Part 1 + Part 2) for the 50 mg dose to indicate a greater than 50% probability that the true obefazimod NMSC rate is greater than the upper bound of UC background rate, when the observed NMSC IR begins to possibly be considered elevated above background expectations. In summary: The right conclusion is not that no cancer events occurred, or that no events will occur in the future. They will occur, not only because cancer risk is elevated in UC, but because cancer can occur in anyone, at any time, including otherwise healthy patients. We think the right conclusion is that the events that did occur look explainable by baseline patient risk, common cancer epidemiology, UC biology, and routine screening detection, rather than acting as evidence of an obefazimod-specific oncogenic signal. We think FDA reviewers and pharma regulatory teams are more likely to reach this conclusion than to view the disclosed cases as a coherent obefazimod-specific malignancy signal, making increasingly clear what we believe is a best-in-disease efficacy/risk profile in the lucrative maintenance setting for UC and substantially de-risking the company’s opportunity in Crohn’s. Disclosure: I/we may be long ABVX and may buy, sell, hedge, or otherwise change exposure at any time without notice. Not investment advice or a recommendation. Analysis reflects current views and assumptions based on public disclosures, published literature, and non-confidential conversations, and may change as new data become available. No compensation from ABVX or any third party.

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Adam May
Adam May@A_May_MD·
@ezmoneymonty @deathtouch2k @srinik23 These sort of offers manifest over the course of weeks to months of back and forth, not overnight. See CDTX 14D-9. Bidding war encompassed over $100 of increasing bids.
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jub 🇺🇸@BenWil46805·
@Taintslapp12283 Market is too spooked to buy in until the part 2 data comes out. Even though we are pretty certain of that outcome investors are worried about another unexpected surprise. I expect $150-$180 after its released.
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pork@Taintslapp12283·
$abvx why is it so incredibly weak? Fuggin garbage. I hate it here
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SRINIK@srinik23·
@deathtouch2k @A_May_MD What do you deem reasonable? $5-10b UC and $5-10b CD possible? - but I see $3-5b peak for UC by some. Cost of error (imo) to pay $18-20b isn't crazy (worst case lose $3-5b EV) - so $180-200 is "reasonable". Hard to imagine they don't have that offer now by LLY/AZN already, no?
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deathTouch
deathTouch@deathtouch2k·
@srinik23 @A_May_MD ABVX is a bit odd given the French filings and requirements, but the short of it is that we think the people in control of the company (Board + him) are highly incentivized to sell at a reasonable price. There is a large options pool and I'm guessing who has the biggest chunk.
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SRINIK@srinik23·
@A_May_MD @deathtouch2k He should *end* up with more if this is 2027 deal than 2026 deal b/c he invested 1 more year of sweat/tears. If other CEOs got $50m upfront, then $1m each year less incented than here where he still gets decent chunks relative to initial position so he incented MORE to wait?
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SRINIK@srinik23·
@A_May_MD @deathtouch2k Nuances here- he gets new tranches b/c he is working an extra year. Gets paid $20m? (in stock) each year - so by starting process later he gets that and would get even more future stock based on what you said. He still get decent chunks (other CEOS maybe not)-so makes diff here?
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SRINIK@srinik23·
@A_May_MD @deathtouch2k He will get all his stock vested - not arguing that. Saying if he keeps getting NEW tranches periodically - why wouldn't he just wait it out and own MORE shares in a year - and then get all of it on change of control at latest point in time. He is still getting chunky NEW shares
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Adam May
Adam May@A_May_MD·
@srinik23 @deathtouch2k Doubt it’s structured that way (often shares can vest sooner in a “change of ownership” situation, but idk how this is laid out specifically for him.
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SRINIK@srinik23·
@Zackfoot Who is INCREMENTAL buyer??? Sheep, Abishek, Bakers already full. Quants still shorting prob b/c of factors. Generalists out. Company isnt convincing new investors (hiding slides etc) - so who is the incremental buyer. To get 1-2m buys = $100-200m of new capital. Not easy.
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Zachary Prensky
Zachary Prensky@Zackfoot·
All the $ABVX M&A specs flipping out of the stock to buy $SPCX calls (first day they’re listed) Seriously, does anyone have a guess as to why $ABVX trades so poorly intraday?
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SRINIK@srinik23·
@adamfeuerstein why do u only trolling ur own sector and shareholders in a lot of names i would think a good journalist doesn’t show his biases
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Adam Feuerstein ✡️
Adam Feuerstein ✡️@adamfeuerstein·
$ABVX $NKTR $VKTX $NTLA
Bill Ackman@BillAckman

An update on Pershing Square USA, Ltd. $PSUS:   Since its IPO on April 29th, PSUS has deployed nearly 85% of its capital in 12 companies including Amazon, Microsoft, UBER, Meta, Brookfield, Restaurant Brands, Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac at prices we believe to be extremely attractive.   The PSUS portfolio, along with the other Pershing Square funds, also includes four new companies, which we will disclose at the time of our second quarter report.   As a result of our investment activity over the last six weeks, we believe the PSUS portfolio is now invested in a number of the highest quality durable growth companies in the world, which are trading near their all-time lowest valuations.   Furthermore, as of this moment, PSUS is trading at a ~20% discount to the net asset value (NAV) of its underlying holdings so a buyer of the stock at today’s price is acquiring the current portfolio at a double discount. We believe the PSUS discount to NAV has emerged due to short-term technical factors related to the IPO that should moderate over time.   Pershing Square management and affiliates are all-in, having acquired more than ten million shares or $500+ million of PSUS in the IPO and in the market thereafter. 
In summary, we believe PSUS and its portfolio holdings represent an extremely attractive bargain at today’s share price and we have put our money where our mouth is.

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Agent007@Agent0088156721·
@mickeychiku $ABVX Methinks Marc/NEOs/BOD potentially have a much BIGGER issue than dealing with impatient investors. That's the added level of complexity they brought on themselves from the 6/1 events.
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Mickeychiku@mickeychiku·
$ABVX Endoscopic remission is the true indicator of how good a drug is. You can not keep masking symptoms for a long time and keep bowel still under injured state. Cause injured bowel for long time put patients at higher risk of developing fibrosis or CD and other comorbidities. In all future UC debates, ER should be the main benchmark for comparison between UC drug efficacy. Marc is in interesting situation right now. CEO of potential Mega blockbuster drug with extremely impatient investors. Only to blame him for this situation. We don’t know how far he is willing to stretch this. Longer he waits more the value for shareholders; however, does he think investor have patience? We don’t know what’s going on in his mind.
Mickeychiku@mickeychiku

The IBD game has completely changed from symptom management (CR) to complete disease healing (ER). Now everyone will be forced to release ER. I don’t see CD failing with this kind of ER. I won’t be shocked if FDA also updates UC trial design & endpoint guidelines in future with emphasis on ER as important endpoint for approval. Patients love CR together ER over only getting CR while underlying disease is still there in bowel.

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SRINIK@srinik23·
@Agent0088156721 I see it as 0.5-1.0m shares only. will take it but not 4m (i wish) doesn’t impact a suitor. they buying all shares so doesn’t matter if passive dudes own 1m or not
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SRINIK@srinik23·
@Agent0088156721 where and how do you calculate 5%? seems high the index demand is going to be 4m+ shares?
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Agent007@Agent0088156721·
$ABVX Inclusion into the CAC Next 20, means some passive buying end of next week. At its current MC, approx 5% will need to be bought. A nice little present to the potential suitors out there.
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SRINIK@srinik23·
@JackMan724444 @biopharmacaster Yes correct BP wants to have access to file with FDA. If ABVX does it, most likely BP waits to make sure no BBW (they worried about ABVX regulatory affairs abilities).
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Jack Man@JackMan724444·
@biopharmacaster Maybe, but I hope not. I was think they longer they wait, the lower the BO price would be. We'll see
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Rick@biopharmacaster·
$abvx a lot of people thought deal was imminent remember the days of not long ago tracking airplane movements 😂 this article confirms it might be a few more months to negotiate something the full data set still needs to be published at months end although I’m sure bp has access
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SRINIK@srinik23·
@JackMan724444 what is sufficiently advanced? does that mean it is NOT that right now?
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Jack Man@JackMan724444·
Grok says this about french law $abvx A public company cannot casually or speculatively announce that it is "going to sell itself" before a sufficiently advanced stage. Doing so risks violating disclosure rules, constituting market manipulation, or disseminating misleading info
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SRINIK@srinik23·
@JackMan724444 please share how much u get - curious allocation %. it can go higher - the passive demand day 5-15 is 25% of float
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Jack Man@JackMan724444·
Maybe peeps had to sell some $ABVX this morning in case they got some spacex shares. I put in an order for 17k shares of spce. 10k at Etrade and 7k at schwab. How many u think I'll get? I had an order in for 5000 QNT last week and got 84 shares. 🙄🙄
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SRINIK@srinik23·
@unemon1 April has 30 days May has 31 days So that’s 61 days right there bud Love ur work - GLGL to us
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SRINIK@srinik23·
@Agent0088156721 @seedy19tron A buyer is paying $X in EV. A raise only dilutes current holders (a small bit). It's not stock price that the buyer pays - it's EV - so disagree with this argument - but for sure it forces pressure on suitors as alternative path viable for ABVX. GLGL to all!!!!
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Agent007@Agent0088156721·
@seedy19tron Yes, in these circumstances creating that extra optionality, re a hypothetical raise post maint data drop increases pressure on possible suitors. Raises are expensive, a suitor then has to raise EXTRA funds to pay for the expensive $ABVX raise. Not optimal for a suitor. FWIW.
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Seedy19@seedy19tron·
I found it interesting , $abvx probably nothing…. Assume that share issuance authorizations for post data flexibility (whether it’s financing or M&A) the reason why AGM dates pulled up by almost 1 month. Earnings also brought forward by a week.
Agent007@Agent0088156721

$ABVX After publishing the 2026 corporate outlook in January (see below), ABVX has deviated from the calendar twice. Both accelerations of Q2 dates. Back in the day, that was called clearing the deck.

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