neon ghost

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neon ghost

neon ghost

@thenowhere

London-LA-Athens-Vegas-SF Katılım Aralık 2009
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neon ghost
neon ghost@thenowhere·
@SJJHawks @davemeltzerWON He didn’t “grade” it worst match of the year, it was voted on by readers. It’s not that difficult to understand..it would be like fans voting Cena vs Cody WM last year as the worst match..it’s not really the worst match, but it represented something those fans didn’t like.
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SJ@SJJHawks·
@davemeltzerWON These star and match grading systems are seriously flawed if that’s considered the worst match of the year. The evaluation of a match should not strictly be based on moves. If the spectacle and especially crowd reactions are not a factor, the gradings are irrelevant.
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neon ghost
neon ghost@thenowhere·
@rburkezzz @davemeltzerWON Everyone has a biased opinion on everything. It’s called an opinion. A good antedote to bias probably comes for having the insight of having studied & written about someone for 45 years..
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Ryan
Ryan@rburkezzz·
@davemeltzerWON For a wrestling historian you hands down have the most biased opinion on hogan possible, yet you’ll never just come out and say it. Enough already
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Dave Meltzer
Dave Meltzer@davemeltzerWON·
The idea every person on the planet knows Hogan is a fallacy. In most parts of the world he's a complete unknown. He's very big in certain countries. WWE is not a thing in general culture in most of the world and Hogan's era was far more limited in exposure. In his entire career, as best we can tell, Hogan only worked 11 countries and his Netflix number the past two weeks, very impressive, are nothing remotely close to what a Jordan or Michael Jackson or an Ali would get, and it's concentrated in only a few countries. We've had people studying this stuff the last few weeks.
Randy Humphries@randallhump82

@davemeltzerWON Ask an average person who he is . You will get crickets. Every human being on the planet knows hulk hogan. It’s like babe Ruth Muhammad Ali etc A huge difference but I think you get it

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Summr Blu
Summr Blu@BluThundrBmb·
@IANdrewDiceClay look at the crowd popping for a cool as fuck too move, awwww that wcw crowd that used to just fucking LOVE wrestling i wish we could find those 3-4 million people who left wrestling back then and just show them whats going on today.
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IandrewDiceClay@IANdrewDiceClay·
What a move from DDP. Someone should bring this back.
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neon ghost
neon ghost@thenowhere·
@davemeltzerWON Outside the U.S it seems he was a pretty big pop culture figure ‘88-‘91..if you didn’t experience him in that time, you might not be familiar with him outside of coverage of the Gawker case, or vague notions of him being a low-rent b-movie actor. Much less famous than The Rock..
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neon ghost
neon ghost@thenowhere·
@mysteriouskat ….or why they are so sure now in often uncritically taking a new world view wholesale from a hack or, at best, unreliable actor
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Katherine Brodsky
Katherine Brodsky@mysteriouskat·
I've noticed that many of the people who "woke up" recently tend to claim how they were manipulated, fooled, pressured... They don't actively reflect on what it is in them that led to them being captured by something. They are framed as victims of sorts.
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neon ghost
neon ghost@thenowhere·
@BrianRSolomon And how would it even work? It’s like saying “Beverly Hills Cop V will exist in a universe where Beverly Hills Cop 2 didn’t happen, but 1 & 3 did“..there is no practical application where that means anything..
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neon ghost
neon ghost@thenowhere·
@mitchlafon Sure - I guess there might be an issue if they do songs overtly about their politics (which can often come across as trite & grating, even if you agree with them). Of course if someone is doing something abhorrent (advocating violence/racism etc) then I’m not listening/supporting
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Mitch Lafon
Mitch Lafon@mitchlafon·
Can you still enjoy an artist’s music if their politics clashes with yours?
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neon ghost
neon ghost@thenowhere·
@BrianRSolomon @nodqdotcom My thoughts exactly. He’s had 10 yrs of hype & potential based upon his look, somewhat unique style & the promise that there is something more to his dark, spooky gimmick, but he’s never gotten into 2nd gear & wasted 4 years of his career not doing business in his biggest push..
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neon ghost
neon ghost@thenowhere·
@Rob_Van_Goddam @davemeltzerWON It’s been a public company since 1999. I agree, though, that I think they’ll sell it in the next 10 yrs..imagine having to navigate a real business downturn, or a post-McMahon braintrust world once HHH / Prichard are gone. It’s plausible they make Jim Herd type moves creatively..
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Dave Meltzer
Dave Meltzer@davemeltzerWON·
The saudis had an opportunity to buy wwe and they would have kept Vince in charge if they had. They ended up deciding not to make an offer. Emanuel did not make the offer he did to flip it
“Tom”.@NotThatTomGreen

Every move TKO is making with WWE makes more sense when you realize Endeavor bought WWE to offset debt from the UFC purchase, to ultimately sell it to the Saudis. But if Saudi is out of money, you have to make it look pretty to all eventual buyers.

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neon ghost
neon ghost@thenowhere·
@karunpal I’m pretty sure stupid people do this as well, though maybe they’re thinking about monkey memes instead of Dostoevsky..
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Karun Pal
Karun Pal@karunpal·
Intelligent people struggle with addiction. Their minds need more. They have obsessions nobody around them shares. Philosophy. Astronomy. Dostoevsky. Jazz. Quantum physics. Things they know deeply. Things they've gone so deep into that anything else feel like small talk. And small talk feels like suffocation. So... they drink. Work until 2 am. Doomscroll until they're numb. Because there is a gap. A gap between who you are and the conversations available to you. And it's one of the loneliest places a person can live.
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neon ghost
neon ghost@thenowhere·
@thealphatron @SteveSkojec But..if you decide to not control guns, those certain people would be able to wield them. Hence many prospective gun owners in Western Europe just go home and jerk off instead of shooting up a school, or doing a murder-suicide with their family..
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Super Galactic Fantastic Dimension
Super Galactic Fantastic Dimension@thealphatron·
He said everything but the right thing and it sounded good but is so off. He never mentioned God, family, integrity, morality, values, principles or culture. It is the same ridiculous "logic" of gun control advocates where the gun is the problem, not the people who wield it. The thing, in this case technology, is not the issue, it is the lack of these basic truths that is the issue.
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Steve Skojec
Steve Skojec@SteveSkojec·
He’s dead on.
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neon ghost
neon ghost@thenowhere·
@mysteriouskat This low resolution critical lens is sad..everything has to be perceived as a one-dimensional, zero sum tool for some pernicious political ideology, instead of y’know just telling a story where characters have normal common values-Mrs Maisel as a tool for Palestinian genocide lol
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Katherine Brodsky
Katherine Brodsky@mysteriouskat·
I was reading the comment section of a clip from 'The Marvelous Mrs Maisel,' where the righteous people of YouTube were discussing how Jews put in Jewish stuff and Israel in everything made by Hollywood. Those sneaky, sneaky Zionists. This is the state of things.
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neon ghost
neon ghost@thenowhere·
@shogunstewa (2/2) Very few markets broke this cycle..they did well in Chicago & Philly at first, but by & large anywhere with existing strong wrestling they struggled in. Also, by the time they really fully started national touring in ’87 they were way past the peak & declining even at home
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neon ghost
neon ghost@thenowhere·
@shogunstewa I think it’s as simple as they were expanding to new markets that WWF had already expanded to thus were coming in with much lower production values & *very* southern/mountain feeling promotion & largely smaller, weird-looking wrestlers vs the big league standard WWE had set (1/2)
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Shannon Steward
Shannon Steward@shogunstewa·
It’s strange to me that Crockett wasn’t a bigger success nationally in the late 80s. Don’t get me wrong - they drew big in some places initially and some places like Philly they were able to maintain it. Their tv ratings were good, talent was great, but they should have been selling out around the country. I get them trying to expand because there is no reason it shouldn’t have worked. They had Road Warriors, Rock N Roll, Horsemen etc. There was something for every type of fan. Even that one random fan in the arena who was like “Nelson Royal is here tonight, fuck yeah.”
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neon ghost
neon ghost@thenowhere·
@BrianRSolomon The tv & ppv themes WWE had used to be so distinctive & get you so hyped, particularly late 80s to early 00s..it was such a unique signature part of their promotion. The PPV themes circa ‘88-‘92 were as distinctive as the logos, & both have become very generic in the last 20 yrs.
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neon ghost
neon ghost@thenowhere·
@ChaoticDrewtral @Badtakejustin lol that doesn’t make any sense. Hogan was 100% influenced by Graham & Austin Idol but his combination was a sea change superhero refinement. It’s like saying The Beatles couldn’t be influential because they copied Buddy Holly & Lil Richard. It’s (A) not true & (b) makes no sense
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Adapative and Reactive Justin
Adapative and Reactive Justin@Badtakejustin·
It’s asinine that folks on this app cannot distinguish popularity vs influence. Hogan debatably is the most popular wrestler ever, based on drawing & merch. Influence not even in the convo. Hogan had minimal impact on style, psychology or spots propagated through the industry
Dominic DeAngelo | Studio 1 Sports 📡@DominicDeAngelo

Like him or not, it's indisputable that Hulk Hogan is the most influential wrestler of all time. The discourse trying to argue otherwise is ludicrous. And to try to discredit him saying he "benefitted from the time" instead of "he knew what the hell he was doing" is asinine.

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neon ghost
neon ghost@thenowhere·
@PitchCentralHQ @davemeltzerWON This is not even remotely true..he knows AEW runs several Thursdays a year due to sports pre-emptions..has been the case for several years, and he would know which nights (or, if not, he’s very stupid). He’s basically lying about the reason, or got upset & has no impulse control.
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neon ghost
neon ghost@thenowhere·
@c_012345678 @davemeltzerWON You created your own fake universe. Nobody said, or would say, that anyone would know who Danno Mahoney was. No one said anything that inferred that would be the case. They are talking about how famous someone was in 1935.
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@davemeltzerWON Ok, if you go outside your house now and ask the first random 100 people if they Danno, how many would you get? All my Money’s on zero.
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Dave Meltzer
Dave Meltzer@davemeltzerWON·
Danno was doing multiple stadium shows as a rookie but burned out fast after the double cross. He was a bigger draw than Bill on his own and far bigger celebrity. As noted, the wire services would carry stories on the women he was dating, that's how big a celebrity he was for a short period of time.
Matt Farmer@mattfarmer93

Danno had a career similar to Bill Goldberg, except his career exploded quicker. His first US match (2nd match) was in January 1935 at a nearly sold out Boston Garden where he was the main event. He went on to headline events that attracted more than 810,000 fans that year.

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@SJJHawks @davemeltzerWON @rburkezzz @BluThundrBmb @IANdrewDiceClay @mysteriouskat @BrianRSolomon @nodqdotcom